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<v Speaker 1>Futuro Investigatesaturo Emestida. Hey, today's episode is the second in

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<v Speaker 1>our two part special head Down, so we recommend that

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't listened to part one, you press pause

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<v Speaker 1>right now, go back to your feed and listen to

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<v Speaker 1>episode one. In November twenty twenty one, the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Justice revealed the results of a three year investigation in

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<v Speaker 1>Southeast Georgia. It was called Operation blooming Onion.

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<v Speaker 2>Two dozen people have been indicted up for the FEDS

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<v Speaker 2>busted what they call a modern day slavery ring.

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<v Speaker 3>The defendants are accused of forcing Mexican and Central American

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<v Speaker 3>migrant workers to dig for crops barehanded at gunpoint.

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<v Speaker 2>The workers were held in cramped, unsanitary quarters and fenced

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<v Speaker 2>work cams with little or no food, limited plumbing, and

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<v Speaker 2>without safe water.

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<v Speaker 1>The government alleged two migrants died and others were raped.

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<v Speaker 1>They were legally working here. Prosecutors said that the migrants

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<v Speaker 1>had been recruited and enslaved by US employers who took

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of them through a government program for temporary workers.

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<v Speaker 1>The program that gives them visas, called H to eight,

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<v Speaker 1>is supposed to have oversights in place to keep these

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<v Speaker 1>things from happening, but according to prosecutors, the labor contractors

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<v Speaker 1>turned criminals fraudulently obtained tens of thousands of these H

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<v Speaker 1>to A visas for workers in a period of five years. Allegedly,

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to all of the horrendous physical and emotional abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>the workers got little to no pay and in many

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<v Speaker 1>cases they were sold. Yes you heard that right, they

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<v Speaker 1>were sold to work in other farms.

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<v Speaker 3>The construct of slavery may have been taking a new form,

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<v Speaker 3>but stories such as these out of South Georgia or

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<v Speaker 3>a stat reminded that slavery is still alive today.

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<v Speaker 1>This case is extreme and rare, but we found that

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<v Speaker 1>the H two A program is actually plagued with systematic problems,

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<v Speaker 1>and even people who work in the government admit it,

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<v Speaker 1>like migrios from the Department of Labor.

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<v Speaker 4>If you have half a brain, you can see that

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<v Speaker 4>the H two A program literally is the purchase of

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<v Speaker 4>humans to perform difficult work under terrible conditions, sometimes including

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<v Speaker 4>subhuman living conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>From Futuro Investigates and Latino USA in collaboration with PRISM,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Fernande chavarri In for our host Marie no Jossa.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we bring you part two of head Down, where

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<v Speaker 1>we'll take a closer look at how from its very beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>the H to A Visa program was largely set up

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<v Speaker 1>to fail foreign workers. For years, Tinavaskiz, editor at Large

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<v Speaker 1>at PRISM, and I have been looking into the federal

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<v Speaker 1>H to A program.

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<v Speaker 5>We've been following its explosive growth and reporting on the

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<v Speaker 5>abuse that often happens inside of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week, we brought you the story of two former

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<v Speaker 1>migrant workers and friends who came here as part of

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<v Speaker 1>the program and ended up being trafficked. It was so

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<v Speaker 1>bad they had to escape their labor camp in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>We also went to Mexico to the hub for h

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<v Speaker 1>to A visas and investigated the role that the recruiter plays,

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<v Speaker 1>a very sketchy middleman between the migrants and the farms.

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<v Speaker 5>For this episode, we'll bring you the results of our

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<v Speaker 5>investigation into millions of dollars owed to farm workers and

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<v Speaker 5>why these funds end up in the US government's hands.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll tell you the story of two brothers who spoke

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<v Speaker 1>up against unsafe working conditions and suffered grave consequences, and.

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<v Speaker 5>You'll hear from government officials close to the program, who

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<v Speaker 5>are surprisingly candid about what the US is doing wrong

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<v Speaker 5>and could do better.

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<v Speaker 1>All of this as the Biden administration is preparing to

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<v Speaker 1>expand the h to a program without fully reforming it. First,

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<v Speaker 1>before we go any further, let's have a quick refresher

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<v Speaker 1>on how the program works. It has become a lifeline

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<v Speaker 1>for US farmers. It is thanks to migrant workers coming

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<v Speaker 1>every year that we get enough labor supply to have

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<v Speaker 1>fruits and vegetables on our tables. Why migrant workers, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's grueling work, spending hours under the scorching sun, vending

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<v Speaker 1>your back over and over and over again, at times,

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<v Speaker 1>working for less than minimum wage, exposing your body to

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<v Speaker 1>pesticides and extreme weather, all in an industry known for

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous working conditions and lack of regulations. So, as you

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine, for a very long time, I know US

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<v Speaker 1>citizens have been avoiding this type of work.

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<v Speaker 6>It's been a challenge for many farmers in Eerie County

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<v Speaker 6>of fruits and vegetables. But some farmers, like John Mason,

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<v Speaker 6>owner of Mason Farms, won't have too much of a

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<v Speaker 6>struggle because he's using plamb hiring Temporary agricultural foreign workers,

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<v Speaker 6>also known as H two A.

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<v Speaker 7>I get yelled at when people know that we have

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<v Speaker 7>Mexicans working for us, that they say, you know you're

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<v Speaker 7>stealing American jobs. Now we're filling jobs that Americans refused

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<v Speaker 1>So, the US government tried to make farmers' lives easier

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<v Speaker 1>by facilitating a process in which foreign workers could come here,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how the HJOY program was created in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six. Fast forward to today, the US is issuing

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<v Speaker 1>more H TOA visas than ever before. In Mexico, where

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<v Speaker 1>ninety percent of H to A workers come from, A

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<v Speaker 1>staggering quarter of a million visas were issued just last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So those jobs that US citizens don't want to do,

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<v Speaker 1>Mexicans are doing more and more.

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<v Speaker 5>In theory, employers must comply with specific laws and regulations,

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<v Speaker 5>like providing workers housing and meals, paying for their visas,

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<v Speaker 5>and basic wages. But in practice these laws are regularly violated.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's something else. Lately, members of Congress have talked

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<v Speaker 1>about expanding the age to A program to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>issues like inflation.

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<v Speaker 8>Farmers and ranchers have been telling them that they don't

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<v Speaker 8>have enough farm workers in the United States that is

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<v Speaker 8>heavily contributing to the increase in food prices. The bipartisan

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<v Speaker 8>group of law makers proposes expanding the H two A

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<v Speaker 8>visas which allow employers.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to make the program bigger to stop inflation,

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<v Speaker 1>and the White House wants to expand it to curb

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<v Speaker 1>migration and reduce human trafficking. Here's Vice President Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 1>and Guatemala during an official visit in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 9>When we see some of the most vulnerable in our

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<v Speaker 9>communities being take advantage of being sold for being abused,

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<v Speaker 9>it should be a priority for all of us who

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<v Speaker 9>care about the human condition and humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>Except we know that there is human trafficking in the

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<v Speaker 1>H two A program. Remember Operation Blooming Onion at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the episode.

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<v Speaker 3>The documents also alleges their migrants were repeatedly raped. As

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<v Speaker 3>if that's not enough, the conspirators often sold and traded

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<v Speaker 3>the one hundred plus workers amongst themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And all of this is connected to something deeper our

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<v Speaker 1>country's history.

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<v Speaker 10>Muslemle Vangard a fifteen hundred Mexicans drops of estates by

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<v Speaker 10>the farm security at middles.

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<v Speaker 1>Lad Most are laborer.

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<v Speaker 10>All of them are bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>Foreign workers have been building and feeding this country for centuries,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a specific moment in history that directly connects

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<v Speaker 1>with the H two A program as we know it today.

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<v Speaker 1>The Brasero program created in nineteen forty two.

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<v Speaker 10>The term most commonly used is brasseros in Spanish. This

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<v Speaker 10>means a man who works with his arms and hands.

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<v Speaker 5>The US and Mexican governments signed an agreement to bring

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<v Speaker 5>young laborers to US fields during and after World War Two.

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<v Speaker 10>All such farm jobs, which are top, dirty, or unpleasant,

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<v Speaker 10>are generally referred to as two labor. It isn't easy

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<v Speaker 10>to find men willing to take on such undesirable kinds

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<v Speaker 5>Understandably, they came to replace the millions of men who

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<v Speaker 5>were deployed to the war. Yes Mexican workers doing what

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<v Speaker 5>Americans couldn't do.

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<v Speaker 1>Between nineteen forty two and nineteen sixty four, four point

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<v Speaker 1>six million contracts were signed through this barseido program. In

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<v Speaker 1>the decades after the program ended, braselos shared their stories

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<v Speaker 1>of wage theft and abuse. The man.

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<v Speaker 11>Para pasadad on the Nazivana Jumigar and jumigrados e total.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Pigdr Alimann speaking for the Brasselo Project, which document

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<v Speaker 1>oral testimonies from former gracios. He described the humiliation he

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<v Speaker 1>felt at the hands of US officials at the border.

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<v Speaker 1>They forced workers to strip at processing centers before crossing

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<v Speaker 1>and spread them with pesticides that are now considered carcinogens.

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<v Speaker 1>Fast forward to nineteen eighty six, when the h to

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<v Speaker 1>A program was created. Much of the basis for it

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<v Speaker 1>came from the Brasido program. Here's former President Ronald Reagan

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<v Speaker 1>speaking to farmers that year.

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<v Speaker 12>We'll be giving farming back to the farmers. So while

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<v Speaker 12>times may be tough, the future for American farmers, your future,

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<v Speaker 12>I think, looks bright.

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<v Speaker 1>But to really understand the legacy of racism and exploitation

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<v Speaker 1>in the US agricultural industry, we need to go even

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<v Speaker 1>further back to the Fair Labor Standards Act, which became

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<v Speaker 1>law nearly a century ago when Franklin D. Roosevelt was president.

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<v Speaker 13>God will attempt the gift to the industrial workers of

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<v Speaker 13>the country. They weight returns to prevent cut competitions, to

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<v Speaker 13>prevent unduly lang hours and labor at the same time,

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<v Speaker 13>to encourage each industry.

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<v Speaker 1>This law fundamentally changed working conditions in the US. It

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<v Speaker 1>gave us a minimum wage, a forty hour workweek, overtime pay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the good stuff. But these benefits didn't apply

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<v Speaker 1>to farm workers, who at the time in the South

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<v Speaker 1>were overwhelmingly black. In fact, you can draw a straight

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<v Speaker 1>line from slavery to the Fair Labor Standards Act to

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<v Speaker 1>the conditions we continued to see in agriculture today. Nearly

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<v Speaker 1>a century later, farm workers across the US, mostly Latino immigrants,

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<v Speaker 1>now are still denied even the most basic federal protections,

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<v Speaker 1>such as water breaks or access to shade.

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<v Speaker 14>In extreme heat.

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<v Speaker 1>For many families, the effects of these racist exclusions are real.

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<v Speaker 14>They're tangible.

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<v Speaker 1>On the day we were setting up to record this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>Tina brought up her uncle.

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<v Speaker 5>My uncle Salvador. He died pretty young of cancer, and

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't put it together until later that it might

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<v Speaker 5>have been related to the work that he did. But

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<v Speaker 5>all that is just to say, so I have this

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<v Speaker 5>cousin and I started to report on this story around

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<v Speaker 5>the time that she and I were reconnecting again a lot,

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<v Speaker 5>and we were able to verify that her dad was

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<v Speaker 5>in the Brasero program. Oh wow, So I always had

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of questions, like how did that happen?

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<v Speaker 14>Do you have memories of your uncle?

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<v Speaker 13>Said mother.

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<v Speaker 5>I just remember him coming over I don't know on

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<v Speaker 5>the weekends, I think, and having these like huge crates

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<v Speaker 5>of grapes. And they were giant grapes, the kind that

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<v Speaker 5>had like a lot of seeds in them. But he

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<v Speaker 5>would bring us these huge crates and I had no

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<v Speaker 5>idea why, Like, I don't think I put it together

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<v Speaker 5>as a kid, like, oh he picked these, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The first person I ever met that worked in the

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<v Speaker 1>bracado program was when I was a rookie reporter for

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<v Speaker 1>a local newspaper in southern Arizona in like two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and nine. It was when the Mexican government, finally, after

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<v Speaker 1>years of litigation, agreed to give money back to the

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<v Speaker 1>workers that Mexico had kept ten percent of their wages

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<v Speaker 1>for decades. That was the sort of incentive for the

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<v Speaker 1>workers to come back, right, go to the US, do

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<v Speaker 1>this work. And then Mexico said, we'll keep ten percent

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<v Speaker 1>of your wages for when you come back and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll give them to you. Well, that didn't happen. The

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<v Speaker 1>workers didn't see those pesos. You know, for decades and decades.

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<v Speaker 1>There was an older Mexican man that had been a brassido,

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<v Speaker 14>I always think about.

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<v Speaker 1>Him, the stolen wages, the mistreatment. It's easy to see

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<v Speaker 1>They started working in the fields in their hometown in

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<v Speaker 1>a decade, so they were skilled farm workers by the

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<v Speaker 1>H to A program to do similar work but at

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<v Speaker 1>a much higher pace.

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<v Speaker 14>In twenty seventeen. They ended up in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Northwest working for the biggest blueberry producer in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>But their time in the H two A program didn't

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<v Speaker 1>end well. They didn't fall in line with the unspoken

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<v Speaker 14>They spoke up.

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<v Speaker 1>The brothers arrived in Washington State's picturesque town of Sumas,

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<v Speaker 1>near the Canadian border, just at the start of the

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<v Speaker 1>blueberry picking season. Was it what you expected? What you

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<v Speaker 9>I asked, no.

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<v Speaker 1>The details of what the brothers say happened to them

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<v Speaker 1>that summer in Washington were alleged in a class action

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuit against Sarbannon, the farm where they worked in a

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<v Speaker 17>The expectation was they were to be in the fields

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<v Speaker 17>every single day working unless they were on their deathbeds.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Joe Morrison, an attorney with Columbia Legal Services based

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<v Speaker 17>That sent a chilling message to the workers that basically

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<v Speaker 17>there were no sick days.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe represented the Brothers in about five hundred other workers

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<v Speaker 1>in the lawsuit that alleged Sarbonin violated federal anti trafficking

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<v Speaker 1>The workers were mostly from rural areas in Mexico, and

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<v Speaker 1>according to the lawsuit, when they needed to take a

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<v Speaker 1>break from the sun or eat a snack, their managers

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<v Speaker 17>Even though it was record temperatures in twenty seventeen, and

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<v Speaker 17>they were also smoke from a nearby forest fires.

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<v Speaker 1>And those temperatures would prove deadly.

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<v Speaker 11>Theamo sayula epis.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on Latino USA. A worker collapses in the

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<v Speaker 1>fields and his compagneros do the unlikely thing. That's after

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<v Speaker 1>the break, stay with us. Hey, we're back. I'm Fernande

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<v Speaker 1>chabarri in for Marieno Jos. Before the break, we heard

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<v Speaker 1>about a group of temporary foreign workers at a blueberry

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<v Speaker 1>plant in Sumas, Washington, who were forced to work NonStop.

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<v Speaker 14>The workers had.

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<v Speaker 1>Come from Mexico with h two A visas, and in

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<v Speaker 1>a lawsuit, they alleged that they were expected to get

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<v Speaker 1>through twelve hour workdays without shade or adequate water. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of them were starting to feel sick, showing signs of

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<v Speaker 1>heat stress, but they were too scared to say anything. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>on August second, twenty seventeen, one of the workers, who

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<v Speaker 1>was picking berries with the one Ajuato brothers, collapsed on

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<v Speaker 14>He was taken by.

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<v Speaker 1>Ambulance to a nearby hospital, where he later died. He

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty eight years old. About sixty workers, including the brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>went on strike. One of the workers called the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Labor to complain about what happened, and later that

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<v Speaker 1>day DOL investigators showed up to interview some of the workers.

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<v Speaker 1>The brothers remember seeing the investigators there and feeling a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of relief knowing that the government was now getting involved.

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<v Speaker 14>The next day, the strike.

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<v Speaker 17>Ended, but when the workers showed up to work, the

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<v Speaker 17>company lined up all of the workers, all six hundred

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<v Speaker 17>of them, and called out the workers who were on

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<v Speaker 17>strike in front of everybody else and fired.

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<v Speaker 14>Them on the spot. They told him, you have an

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<v Speaker 14>hour to leave the camp.

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<v Speaker 17>And this is a place in Sumas, Washington that is

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<v Speaker 17>right on the Canadian borders, so there's a border patrol.

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<v Speaker 17>Uh immigration folks are right close by. There's an international

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<v Speaker 17>crossing point into Canada. And the company tells them, you

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<v Speaker 17>need to get out of our cabins, out of the

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<v Speaker 17>labor camp within one hour with all your stuff, or

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<v Speaker 17>we're going to bring in immigration or the police.

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<v Speaker 18>This is the.

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<v Speaker 1>Soft spoken brother told me that the worst part of

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<v Speaker 1>this whole experience was having to sleep on the streets

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<v Speaker 1>after they were fired. For his younger brother, it was

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<v Speaker 1>infuriating knowing that they did a great job, they worked hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were kicked to the curb. And remember, as

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<v Speaker 1>is the case with other working US visas, if migrant

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<v Speaker 1>farm workers lose their jobs, they also lose their immigration

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<v Speaker 1>status because their visas are tied to their employers. In

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<v Speaker 1>many instances, the employer is required to immediately report the

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<v Speaker 1>worker to immigration authorities, and while the worker can try

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<v Speaker 1>to transfer to another employer. They don't really have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time to do so, making their legal stay

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<v Speaker 1>in the US virtually impossible. That's how they end up

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<v Speaker 1>jobless and undocumented.

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<v Speaker 15>Christol contra to thes p.

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<v Speaker 1>You're tied to that contract, the younger brother tells me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you're a prisoner. His older brother ads so.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though the employer was accused of breaking pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>every promise made by not paying the workers enough, providing

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<v Speaker 1>squalid living conditions, not giving the workers enough to eat,

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<v Speaker 1>and at times serving them rotten food. Yea, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the employees who had everything to lose. The brothers and

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<v Speaker 1>the other workers who were fired for protesting had no

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<v Speaker 1>connections in Washington. They had no money. For days, they

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<v Speaker 1>walked around soon As Washington with their rolling suitcases, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get some money so that they could make their

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<v Speaker 1>way back to Mexico. They ended up sleeping in the

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<v Speaker 1>streets until a Latino family that lived nearby told them

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<v Speaker 1>that they could set up camp.

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<v Speaker 14>In their property.

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<v Speaker 11>Almost German are here.

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<v Speaker 1>Dozens of men, including the brothers, slept in tents for

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<v Speaker 11>The themostant campo. That's theres for money Inaye.

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<v Speaker 1>Members of Familia Sunidas for Lahustisia, a nonprofit in Washington

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<v Speaker 1>that helps migrants, showed up to the camp. They live

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<v Speaker 1>streamed on their Facebook page showing the conditions the workers

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<v Speaker 1>were in and asked for donations.

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<v Speaker 11>Topism, Paramardas, and as the Castle.

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<v Speaker 1>Members of the nonprofit called on the government to step in,

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<v Speaker 1>singling out the Department of Labor Yeah. A few weeks later,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the workers made their way back to Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>The brothers had been home in Guanajuato for about a

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<v Speaker 1>year when I visited them in twenty eighteen. They were

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to hear about the class action lawsuit and struggle

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<v Speaker 1>to make money. Right when I get there, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to take me to the tomatilla field where they sometimes work.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of their only options for making a living here.

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<v Speaker 1>There are no factories, no big box stores, and the

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<v Speaker 1>closest city, which is still a small town in comparison

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<v Speaker 1>to other cities in Mexico, is about an hour away.

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<v Speaker 1>So for the first half of the year, most locals

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<v Speaker 1>like them try to work as much as possible and

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<v Speaker 1>save money for the winter months when not much is

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<v Speaker 1>growing here. This is hired by the day kind of gig.

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<v Speaker 1>Every morning, at sunrise, a truck picks up workers at

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<v Speaker 1>the entrance of their town. Dozens of men and women

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<v Speaker 1>hop on, and they are packed so tight that they

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<v Speaker 1>can't even sit down. Sometimes rain or shine, they stand

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of that truck for about forty five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes to get to that tomatilla field. It's not even

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<v Speaker 1>noon and it's already unco comfortably hot and humid. The

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<v Speaker 1>It's muddy and messy, with vines and weeds wrapped around

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<v Speaker 1>the tomatilla plants, making it hard to see if there's

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<v Speaker 1>even any walking paths for harvesting. This is tough labor.

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<v Speaker 1>There are about forty men and women of varied ages

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<v Speaker 1>quietly working. Some have these little portable radios attached to

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<v Speaker 1>their belts so that they can listen to music while

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<v Speaker 1>they work. The brothers tell me they make about ten

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a day here. They could make that in an

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<v Speaker 1>hour working for the h to A program in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Having years and years of experience working in agriculture makes

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<v Speaker 1>the brothers prime candidates for recurring h to A work.

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<v Speaker 1>So why hadn't they been able to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>work for US farms. The brothers tell me that there's

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<v Speaker 1>only one person in their whole town that's in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of recruiting h to A workers. It's a woman that

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<v Speaker 1>they keep going back to asking if they can get

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<v Speaker 1>put on these lists, and this woman keeps telling them no,

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<v Speaker 1>why not. Earlier this year, I called the older brother

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<v Speaker 14>Akia He tells me.

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<v Speaker 1>That they tried year after year to get recruited to

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<v Speaker 1>work on US farms, but since leaving Washington more than

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<v Speaker 1>five years ago, they haven't been able to get work

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<v Speaker 1>in the h to A programs. They strongly suspect their

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<v Speaker 1>names were given out to other US companies as unwanted workers.

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<v Speaker 1>And because there is no centralized place for foreign farm

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<v Speaker 1>workers to apply for US jobs, the recruiters are the gatekeepers.

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<v Speaker 16>We have an astronomal pre condrata.

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<v Speaker 1>In late twenty nineteen, there was an agreement in the

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<v Speaker 1>class action lawsuit. The defendants in the case, Sarbanond, Monger Brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>and the recruiter agreed to pay three point seven million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to settle. However, they all denied any liability or wrongdoing.

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<v Speaker 1>Over five hundred workers received about forty five hundred dollars each.

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<v Speaker 1>The workers who protested also received an additional ten thousand each.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's one thing that hasn't been settled. Nothing in

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<v Speaker 1>the court order mentions the blacklists is being blacklisted. What's

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<v Speaker 1>still hurting you, I asked.

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<v Speaker 14>Le Berjudica. See oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now remember those Department of Labor officials who showed up

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<v Speaker 1>to the blueberry farm when the worker died well that

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<v Speaker 1>day in twenty seven seventeen, they started their own investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Two years later, they found that Monger Brothers and two

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<v Speaker 1>related companies violated the rules of the h to A

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<v Speaker 1>program and failed to provide safe housing and proper pay.

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<v Speaker 1>The Department of Labor ended up ordering them to pay

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<v Speaker 1>three point five million dollars in back wages and penalties.

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<v Speaker 1>It also prohibited them from participating in the h to

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty, the brothers from Monto got paid out

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<v Speaker 1>of that settlement. About a year later, they got paperwork

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<v Speaker 1>from the Department of Labor Vias nail mail telling them

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<v Speaker 1>that they were also entitled to compensation from their investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>The older brother showed me the documents that he was

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<v Speaker 1>asked to fill out and return. He mailed them out

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<v Speaker 1>of Mexico in the summer of twenty twenty one, but

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<v Speaker 1>almost two years later, he hasn't heard a word or

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<v Speaker 1>seen a penny.

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<v Speaker 5>According to experts, workers rarely speak up, and if they do,

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<v Speaker 5>most of the time they need help navigating the tools

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<v Speaker 5>the Department of Labor has in place to protect them.

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<v Speaker 5>So Fernanda and I recently set up a virtual meetup

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<v Speaker 5>to try those tools for ourselves. Fernanda tried it in

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<v Speaker 5>Spanish and I tried it in English.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say I'm a worker and I want to file

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<v Speaker 1>a complaint. Where do I go? What do I do?

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<v Speaker 5>I would Google file a complaint DL right.

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<v Speaker 14>Okay, let me do the same Google. But in Spanish.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the first things are basic.

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<v Speaker 19>Your name.

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<v Speaker 5>But for me, if I'm thinking about this, like as

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<v Speaker 5>an H two a worker and the workers that I've

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<v Speaker 5>spoken to, the next couple of things seem complicated to me.

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<v Speaker 5>Your address, right, So the first thing I think is

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<v Speaker 5>do I give you the address of my labor camp?

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<v Speaker 5>Do I give you address of the place that I'm working?

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<v Speaker 5>Do I give you the address of my home in

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<v Speaker 5>my home country?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm seeing the same thing in Spanish. Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty text heavy. I gotta say, well, I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>all of this on my phone.

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<v Speaker 14>It's not very mobile friendly, I got to say.

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<v Speaker 12>So.

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't know how to fill this out if I

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<v Speaker 5>were an h toayworker. So one of the things that

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<v Speaker 5>I think is very odd is it says location of

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<v Speaker 5>the company and then in parentheses this may be different

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<v Speaker 5>from where you worked. Do you google the name of

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<v Speaker 5>the company that you work for and you're looking for

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<v Speaker 5>their corporate address? What if you don't know the name

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<v Speaker 5>of the company you work for? Do you put the

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<v Speaker 5>farm online? Complaint form asks for an email address, and

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<v Speaker 5>while many h TOAY workers may have one, they don't

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<v Speaker 5>really use it to communicate. Most of themmunication happens via WhatsApp, messaging,

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<v Speaker 5>voice or text. That's how we've always talked to the

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<v Speaker 5>farm workers. And then there's also the issue of language.

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<v Speaker 5>The forms are available in English and Spanish, but many

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<v Speaker 5>HTOA workers come from indigenous communities for which Spanish is

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<v Speaker 5>not the primary language. Thankfully, there's a phone number, so

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<v Speaker 5>that should be easier.

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<v Speaker 14>Should we try to do this instead of doing this online?

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<v Speaker 14>Should we try to do this on the phone and

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<v Speaker 14>see what that's like. Yeah, let's see, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 18>To the US Department of Labor, Wage and our division.

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<v Speaker 5>The menu and.

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<v Speaker 18>Division enforces the federal minimum wage, over time pay, child labor,

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<v Speaker 18>government contracts, agricultural.

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<v Speaker 14>Employment and having this is already so much.

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<v Speaker 18>On website atl dot. To press one or off of

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<v Speaker 18>ours address phone and fact numbers, press two to dial

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<v Speaker 18>away the five agoe for your employer's establishment, followed by

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<v Speaker 18>the pound.

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<v Speaker 5>Sign not where I live, but my employer's establishment. I

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't even tell you, I'm going to hang up.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So not the most helpful phone line, and at

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<v Speaker 1>the risk of talking about yet another website, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, such fun radio content. We do have to

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<v Speaker 1>mention a Department of Labor site called Workers Owed Wages. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this one, yeah, sort of on the flip side of

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<v Speaker 1>the coin is visually a lot easier to navigate.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, it looks easier. I've spoken to workers who could

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<v Speaker 5>access this website that it made sense to them what

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<v Speaker 5>they were supposed to do. But the problem for them,

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<v Speaker 5>especially for Latino workers, which you know, HA workers are

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<v Speaker 5>predominantly Latino workers, is that the problem came with their names,

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<v Speaker 5>So either their employer didn't enter in their full name,

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<v Speaker 5>or entered their name in differently than the name that

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<v Speaker 5>they use, so they didn't know what that was, or

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<v Speaker 5>they have multiple Spanish surnames and so they didn't know

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<v Speaker 5>which ones to use, or there wasn't space for all

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<v Speaker 5>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's even assuming that they know this website exists.

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<v Speaker 5>The workers that I've spoken to that knew that this

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<v Speaker 5>website existed was because they were working with an advocacy organization.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke to a lawyer who didn't know that this

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<v Speaker 1>website existed, and he works with H TWOA folks, So

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't know it exists, then most likely the

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<v Speaker 1>workers on the farms have no idea.

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<v Speaker 14>At the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>For H two A workers, filing a complaint is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge effort and most of the time it may not

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<v Speaker 1>even be worth it. They end up getting fired and

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<v Speaker 1>having to return for their home countries with quite.

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<v Speaker 14>A bit of debt.

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<v Speaker 5>And when DL finds workers that are owed money, the

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<v Speaker 5>agency has up to three years to locate them years.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, most workers have long returned home by then.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's not like the US government is going to

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<v Speaker 5>send employees to remote areas in Mexico to fine workers.

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<v Speaker 5>So what happens in the end, Their lost wages actually

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<v Speaker 5>end up in the hands of yet another US government agency,

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<v Speaker 5>the Treasury Department.

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<v Speaker 14>More on this after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with us, Hey, we're back Afrenande chavarri in for

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<v Speaker 1>Marina Josa. Before the break, we told you about stolen

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<v Speaker 1>wages from migrant workers that end up in the Treasury Department.

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<v Speaker 1>Once there, the money is placed in a general fund

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<v Speaker 1>that the government can use however it wants. We ask

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<v Speaker 1>Treasury how exactly is it that that money is spent?

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<v Speaker 1>But all they would tell us in an email was

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<v Speaker 1>quote H two A is a program administered by the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Labor. Period for many programs across the government

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<v Speaker 1>on use funds revert to the General Treasury end quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Joe Morrison, the lawyer who represented the hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>h to A farm workers, including the brothers in Juanajuato. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when the class action suit settled and the former employers

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<v Speaker 1>paid out, Joe's office set out to find them with

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<v Speaker 1>the same kind of information. DL usually has the worker's

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<v Speaker 1>phone numbers and addresses, but they added some extra steps.

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<v Speaker 17>He needs multiple staff who are connected with the technology

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<v Speaker 17>that's best reaching people, and searched long and hard for people.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of those were on WhatsApp, so they messaged and

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<v Speaker 1>message and message, and when people weren't messaging them back,

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<v Speaker 1>they would look up the addresses and see who were

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<v Speaker 1>their neighbors. They would call those neighbors and try to

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<v Speaker 1>reach them that way, and their efforts paid off. They

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<v Speaker 1>got cash from the settlement to ninety eight percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the more than five hundred workers. In fact, their success

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<v Speaker 1>rate was so high that the Department of Labor investigators

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<v Speaker 1>actually reached out to Joe's office to see if they

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<v Speaker 1>could share the contact information of the workers. The department

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<v Speaker 1>needed to find them because it had money from the

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<v Speaker 1>fine it gave the employer.

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<v Speaker 17>There were very dedicated staffs.

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<v Speaker 20>They asked us for help and we made them aware

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<v Speaker 20>of how we distributed our funds and how the primary

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<v Speaker 20>communication tool with workers is What's app.

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<v Speaker 1>But the department told Joe's office back then that they

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<v Speaker 1>were not allowed to use WhatsApp. We should mention that

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<v Speaker 1>during the pandemic, the DL did use the messaging app

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<v Speaker 1>to give back wages. They're no longer using it. Some

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<v Speaker 1>workers who did get the DL money a few years

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<v Speaker 1>ago started spreading the word, which of course made the

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<v Speaker 1>other workers who didn't get it feel frustrated, so they

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<v Speaker 1>turned to an eight hundred number with you guessed it,

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<v Speaker 1>a significant phone tree that ended up turning them away.

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<v Speaker 17>So we would communicate with the Department Labor about both issues,

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<v Speaker 17>trying to have a more user friendly call in system.

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<v Speaker 1>So while there are good people at the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Labor working very hard to get money back to farm workers,

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<v Speaker 1>they're navigating a broken system of rent tape and bureaucracy

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<v Speaker 1>that is simply not working as well as it could.

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<v Speaker 5>And now we have a pretty good idea of what

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<v Speaker 5>these system flaws look like in practice. In twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 5>I filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the

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<v Speaker 5>Department of Labor. I asked for a ten year nationwide

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<v Speaker 5>breakdown of back wages O to H two A workers.

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<v Speaker 5>A few months later, I get this spreadsheet with names

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<v Speaker 5>of the companies that stole wages and on the final

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<v Speaker 5>page the exact dollar amount that never made it to

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<v Speaker 5>these workers. More than seven million dollars O to H

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<v Speaker 5>two A workers ended up with the Treasury for cases

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<v Speaker 5>spanning twenty eleven to twenty twenty one. And it's even

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<v Speaker 5>more significant when you consider that some of the claims

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<v Speaker 5>that workers filed or for one hundred dollars or two

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<v Speaker 5>hundred dollars, they earned this money, they did brutal work

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<v Speaker 5>in the fields, and then they never got a penny.

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<v Speaker 4>Seven million dollars. That's just as a shocking number. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>it also highlights the difficulty that we have in finding

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<v Speaker 4>workers so that we may reunite them with their hard

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<v Speaker 4>earned wages.

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<v Speaker 5>That's Mike Rios. He's a regional Agricultural Enforcement coordinator at

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<v Speaker 5>the Department of Labor. We heard from him at the

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<v Speaker 5>top of the show. He has worked at the Department

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<v Speaker 5>of Labor for twenty five years, and he spent the

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<v Speaker 5>first fifteen years as an investigator before moving up the ranks.

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<v Speaker 5>Over the years, he has seen countless violations in the

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<v Speaker 5>H two A program and had to put up with

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<v Speaker 5>employers claiming they didn't know they were breaking the law.

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<v Speaker 4>I will never ever understand folks that say that they

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<v Speaker 4>did not know they needed to do something, especially when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to something as basic as paying full wages

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<v Speaker 4>or providing meals, or providing decent housing, even if it's

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<v Speaker 4>their first year in the H two A program. How

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<v Speaker 4>do you not know?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna lie. I was expecting Mike to be

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<v Speaker 5>one of those tight lipped officials who had tidy talking

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<v Speaker 5>points instead of really delving into the problems of the

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<v Speaker 5>H two A program. But Mike didn't hold back.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you don't have to go too far to

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<v Speaker 4>see that, right, if you have a half a brain,

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<v Speaker 4>you can see that the H two A program literally

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<v Speaker 4>is the purchase of humans to perform difficult work under

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<v Speaker 4>terrible conditions, sometimes including sub human living conditions. You're literally

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<v Speaker 4>buying people to come do terrible work.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a government official who actually helps oversee enforcement in

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<v Speaker 5>the H to A program. And here he is admitting

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<v Speaker 5>that the system that we have just isn't working. And

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<v Speaker 5>this is a system that brings more than three hundred

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<v Speaker 5>thousand temporary foreign workers to the US each year.

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds like a lot to have six hundred seven hundred. Heck,

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<v Speaker 4>it sounds like a lot to have one thousand investigators.

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<v Speaker 4>But that is just a tiny, tiny, tiny little fraction

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<v Speaker 4>of the amount of people that are covered by our laws.

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<v Speaker 5>Because those investigators are not just for temporary foreign workers.

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<v Speaker 5>They're not even just for agriculture in general. These are

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<v Speaker 5>the same investigators who respond to complaints at a construction site,

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<v Speaker 5>a supermarket, a hospital, you name it. And please don't

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<v Speaker 5>zone out here because it's hard not to bring up

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<v Speaker 5>government budgets. Last year, the Departminentive Labor received fourteen billion

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<v Speaker 5>dollars in funding, fourteen billion for the agency responsible for

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<v Speaker 5>protecting all workers in the US. Now compare that to

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<v Speaker 5>the combined budgets for Customs and Border Protection and ICE

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty twenty one, Congress gave them more than twenty

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<v Speaker 5>three billion dollars. And then, as Mike says, the problem

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<v Speaker 5>goes beyond a guest worker program. The problem is how

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<v Speaker 5>the agricultural industry operates.

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<v Speaker 4>You can throw a rock and hit a violation in

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<v Speaker 4>the agricultural industry. In fact, I would say that wh

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<v Speaker 4>theft is almost baked into the system.

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<v Speaker 5>When it starvice is no part see parent at lantail program.

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<v Speaker 1>On March thirteenth, just as we were wrapping up this story,

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<v Speaker 1>high ranking government officials from the United States and Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>made a bombastic announcement.

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<v Speaker 4>Sepu is a candida guz this Those same.

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<v Speaker 1>They launched a pilot program to pay back six point

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<v Speaker 1>five million dollars in stolen wages to thirteen thousand former

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican h to A workers while is Latarea Manera Counta

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<v Speaker 1>Carlos Poder. The two governments promised to find these workers

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<v Speaker 1>by sharing information in order to track them down.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you're wondering whether this six point five million

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<v Speaker 5>has anything to do with those seven million that we

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<v Speaker 5>were talking about earlier, we were curious too. We confirmed

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<v Speaker 5>with the Department of Labor that these are the same funds, Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>the same funds that we found in our investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>And while the US and Mexican governments characterized this money

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<v Speaker 1>as quote unquote recovered, it was never really missing, as

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<v Speaker 1>we found that money just moved from the abuse of

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<v Speaker 1>employer to the Department of Labor to then the Treasury Department.

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<v Speaker 1>But the government officials didn't say that at their press conference.

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<v Speaker 1>They also didn't give a clear timeline or framework as

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<v Speaker 1>to how or when they plan to return those stolen wages.

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<v Speaker 1>For now, people can go to the worker's Old Wages website,

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<v Speaker 1>remember that one, the one that looks easy to navigate

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<v Speaker 1>but doesn't really read people's last names, right, So as

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<v Speaker 1>much as this announcement sounds like good news and it is,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows how easy it'll be for workers to actually

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<v Speaker 1>get their money back.

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<v Speaker 4>Honest, well, I canna value that I'm his.

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<v Speaker 1>Last month, when I talked with the older brother from

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone, he told me that he used part

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<v Speaker 1>of his settlement money to help his elderly parents. He

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<v Speaker 1>also bought a small piece of land where he started

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<v Speaker 1>building a home for himself. But it's been tough, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yes, he's been burglarized, he doesn't have electricity

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<v Speaker 1>or running water. It's been one thing after another. Plus

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<v Speaker 1>he's had some health issues and a surgery that makes

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<v Speaker 1>it harder for him to go work in those tomatillo

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<v Speaker 1>fields where he took me years ago, So he spends

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<v Speaker 1>his days as a clerk at a local store. He

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<v Speaker 1>tells me that he's been working with a nonprofit in

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<v Speaker 1>the Pacific Northwest that's helping him apply for a tea visa,

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<v Speaker 1>a special US visa for victims of labor trafficking. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to wait as long as he has to so

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<v Speaker 1>that he can come to the US to legally work

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<v Speaker 1>a non agricultural job and send money back to his family,

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<v Speaker 1>even after suffering serious consequences for speaking up. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>regret taking part in the protest. Yes, he lost his

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity in the US, but at least, he says, people

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<v Speaker 1>will hear that this program is not anything promises.

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<v Speaker 16>To be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks now, as we come to the end of this

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<v Speaker 1>two part special on the H two A program, you

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<v Speaker 1>may be wondering if Congress and or the White House

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<v Speaker 1>are doing anything to make it better.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, we know that safe, orderly, and legal migration

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<v Speaker 7>is good for all our economies, but we need to

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<v Speaker 7>halt the dangerous and unlawful ways people are migrated in

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<v Speaker 7>the dangerous ways.

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<v Speaker 5>Since Biden took office in January of twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 5>he's turned safe and orderly migration into a kind of mantra.

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<v Speaker 5>He says it all the time, and just in February

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<v Speaker 5>of that year, twenty twenty one, the White House assembled

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<v Speaker 5>working groups to discuss the H two A program. The

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<v Speaker 5>idea is to divert asylum seekers from the southern border

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<v Speaker 5>and into this program. Here's Biden talking about the plan

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<v Speaker 5>last summer.

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<v Speaker 7>And on this jobs front, our Department of Agricultures launching

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<v Speaker 7>a pilot program tulp American farmers bring in seasonal agricultural

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<v Speaker 7>workers from northern Central America countries under the H two

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<v Speaker 7>A visa program to improve conditions for all workers.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the main issue with that. The Biden administration wants

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<v Speaker 1>to offer this temporary worker program to migrants who are

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<v Speaker 1>seeking asylum at our southern border, a program that is

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<v Speaker 1>riddled with abuse and trafficking being offered to people who

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<v Speaker 1>are fleeing violence and trafficking.

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<v Speaker 21>They're only going to be able to stay in the

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<v Speaker 21>United States for six, seven eight months out of the year.

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<v Speaker 21>What happens during those other months of the year, they

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<v Speaker 21>have to go back to their home country, and they're

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<v Speaker 21>going to be going back to a country that they fled.

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<v Speaker 5>This is Daniel Kost. He's an attorney and he has

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<v Speaker 5>spent many years monitoring cases just like the brothers from Guanajato.

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<v Speaker 21>Maybe because they're being persecuted, somebody in their family was murdered.

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<v Speaker 21>You're going to send them back to that situation, and

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<v Speaker 21>you're going to send them back to that situation with

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<v Speaker 21>dollars in their pocket. Switch I think is just going

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<v Speaker 21>to make them targets for extortion.

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<v Speaker 5>We ask the White House about these working groups and

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<v Speaker 5>about specific details on their strategy to expand the HTA program,

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<v Speaker 5>but by publication time they didn't respond.

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<v Speaker 14>Workers, advocates, attorneys.

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<v Speaker 1>They all want a total overhaul of the H two

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<v Speaker 1>A program so that it benefits employers and workers, not

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<v Speaker 1>just employers. Others demand quicker fixes that can be done

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<v Speaker 1>without Congress, like putting some regulatory structures in.

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<v Speaker 5>Place, and while there are no major reforms in sight,

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<v Speaker 5>there have been some recent changes to how the program works.

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<v Speaker 14>In January, the Department of.

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<v Speaker 1>Homeland Security announced that migrant workers involved in labor disputes

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<v Speaker 1>now request work authorization and protection from deportation. So in theory,

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<v Speaker 1>this means that if an age to a worker files

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<v Speaker 1>a claim against their employer, they should be protected against retaliation,

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<v Speaker 1>but the announcement didn't come with a clear plan for

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<v Speaker 1>educating workers about this new protection, and in.

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<v Speaker 5>Late March, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration also known

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<v Speaker 5>as OSHA, was granted authority to certify specific pisis for

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<v Speaker 5>immigrant victims of crime, such as the migrant workers that

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<v Speaker 5>we met in episode one.

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<v Speaker 1>But the solutions being offered today are strategies for navigating abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>not strategies for ending abuse. The focus is really on

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<v Speaker 1>expanding age to a not fully reforming it.

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<v Speaker 14>The clerk will report the title of the veil.

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<v Speaker 4>HR sixteen o three, a bill to amend the Immigration

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<v Speaker 4>and Nationality Act to provide for terms and conditions for

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<v Speaker 4>non immigrant workers performing agricultural labor or.

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<v Speaker 5>Services, for example, the Farm Workforce Modernization Act. It was

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<v Speaker 5>meant to provide some farm workers with a pathway to citizenship.

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<v Speaker 19>This is a bipartisan, balanced solution. It is a victory

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<v Speaker 19>for farmers who have struggled with persistent labor shortages for decades.

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<v Speaker 19>It is also a victory for farm workers who have

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<v Speaker 19>worked tirelessly in the field, growing and harvesting food without

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<v Speaker 19>proper labor protections or any guarantee that they can remain

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<v Speaker 19>in this country.

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<v Speaker 5>In December of last year, it seemed imminent that the

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<v Speaker 5>law was going to pass, but when last minute changes

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<v Speaker 5>upset the GOP, the bill died.

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<v Speaker 1>It's worth highlighting that for decades there have been weight

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<v Speaker 1>theft and abuse lawsuits filed by h to A workers,

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<v Speaker 1>along with government and advocacy reports, documentaries, expos as, congressional hearings.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyone in a position of power has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of information about this already.

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<v Speaker 19>Next, we have mister Daniel Costa, director of Immigration Law

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<v Speaker 19>and policy Research at the Economic Policy Institute.

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<v Speaker 5>That's from the summer of twenty sixteen. Daniel Costa is

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<v Speaker 5>being introduced by then Attorney General Jeff Sessions to speak

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<v Speaker 5>before Congress.

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<v Speaker 21>Work programs at tire workers to a single employer and

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<v Speaker 21>that permit employers to legally underpay their bonded migrant workers,

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<v Speaker 21>or a recipe for disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>He told Congress this seven years ago. Daniel wasn't the first,

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<v Speaker 1>and he certainly won't be the last to discuss the

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<v Speaker 1>program's deep flaws. Of course, many employers in the agricultural

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<v Speaker 1>industry don't see it the same way. Others say that

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<v Speaker 1>it is mutually beneficial for employers and workers. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there are generations of Mexican men who have given the

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<v Speaker 1>US their youth, their work, and in exchange, they've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to make better lives for themselves and their families

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<v Speaker 1>in their hometowns. I met an older man in northern

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico who had worked for more than twenty years in

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<v Speaker 1>the tobacco fields of North Carolina, going back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>every year. He told me that he missed so many

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<v Speaker 1>of his children's milestones. But he was able to buy land,

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<v Speaker 1>a truck, start a business. His son and then followed

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<v Speaker 1>in his footsteps. He also became an h to A worker,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was now his turn to say heartbreaking goodbyes

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<v Speaker 1>to his little boy.

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<v Speaker 5>There can never really be a full accounting of the

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<v Speaker 5>H two A program's human cost.

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<v Speaker 21>I believe there's a growing global consensus among immigrants, rights

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<v Speaker 21>activists and worker advocates the temporary formal worker programs are,

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<v Speaker 21>in fact, by their very nature endentured worker programs, in

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<v Speaker 21>other words, that are close to slavery.

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<v Speaker 5>For migrant workers, like the friends we met in part

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<v Speaker 5>one and the brothers we heard from earlier, we can't

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<v Speaker 5>even fully comprehend the extent to which they've been robbed

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<v Speaker 5>by recruiters and employers and failed by the US government.

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<v Speaker 5>So how on earth can we measure the toll on

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<v Speaker 5>their broken bodies and on their spirits.

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<v Speaker 1>The goal of the edge to A program has always

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<v Speaker 1>been to address labor shortages for farmers, and now there's

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<v Speaker 1>a new goal to use it to slow migration to

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<v Speaker 1>the southern border. But the workers, their rights, their stolen wages,

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<v Speaker 1>their lives, those don't seem to be a priority in

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<v Speaker 1>the agenda, so for now all they have is the

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<v Speaker 1>unspoken rule put your head down, do the work, don't complain.

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<v Speaker 1>Head Down is an original production by Fututo Investigates in

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<v Speaker 5>Latino USA is made possible in part by W. K.

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<v Speaker 5>Kellogg Foundation, a partner with Communities where Children Come First,

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<v Speaker 5>the TAU Foundation, and Michelle Mercer and Bruce Golden