WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:03.720 Giddio and Giddia. Listener, there is a little warning because 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.760 there are mentions of rape and sexual abuse in this episode. 3 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:07.400 Take care. 4 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:12.560 We just arrived in the Socalo. 5 00:00:14.040 --> 00:00:16.680 It's really crowded, a lot of people walking around. 6 00:00:17.560 --> 00:00:20.439 It's March of twenty twenty four, and I'm with my 7 00:00:20.560 --> 00:00:24.240 colleague and co executive producer of Latino USA. Her name 8 00:00:24.360 --> 00:00:28.320 is Penny Lei Ramidez, and right now we're at one 9 00:00:28.360 --> 00:00:31.120 of my favorite places in the city where I was born. 10 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:35.479 It's called El Soclo, which is the main public square 11 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:44.040 in Mexico. It's literally Elcason, the heart of the city. 12 00:00:44.680 --> 00:00:48.800 El Soclon is where everything happens in Mexico City. So 13 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:53.479 maybe one day there's a concert by Paul McCartney or Prosalya, 14 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:57.920 and maybe another day, like today, you're going to see 15 00:00:58.080 --> 00:01:03.560 dozens of police officers barricading the main buildings surrounding this plaza. 16 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:09.160 Today is two days before the International Women's Day March, 17 00:01:09.880 --> 00:01:14.120 and so right before us is this large group of 18 00:01:14.160 --> 00:01:17.200 police officers. Can I ask you a question, g Lacino, 19 00:01:17.240 --> 00:01:24.679 what are you doing? A young police officer that I 20 00:01:24.720 --> 00:01:29.240 walk up to is actually laying steel fences all around 21 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:32.959 the Soclo. He tells us that these barricades are meant 22 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:36.959 to protect the surrounding buildings. All of this in anticipation 23 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:41.600 of the upcoming International Women's Day march. They've got massive flyers. Okay, 24 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:43.360 here they're gonna put another part of the wall together. 25 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:43.800 Here we go. 26 00:01:48.720 --> 00:01:52.680 Now, you may be asking yourself, why are Mexican police 27 00:01:52.720 --> 00:01:56.600 putting up steel barricades throughout all of downtown Mexico City 28 00:01:56.840 --> 00:02:01.560 for women who are celebrating International Women's Day. And what 29 00:02:01.600 --> 00:02:04.200 you will hear is that the police will say that 30 00:02:04.360 --> 00:02:09.160 during this protests, some women, some radical protesters, do get 31 00:02:09.200 --> 00:02:11.840 a little violet. They have been accused, for example, of 32 00:02:11.880 --> 00:02:15.559 destroying storefronts or of writing the names of their abusers 33 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:19.919 or rapists on the monuments as they march along the streets. 34 00:02:20.720 --> 00:02:24.160 But for some women, they actually believe that the government 35 00:02:24.200 --> 00:02:28.400 puts more money and effort into protecting buildings and storefronts 36 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:35.280 than into protecting women and their safety and well being. Now, 37 00:02:35.440 --> 00:02:38.640 while Mexican women are getting ready to take part in 38 00:02:39.040 --> 00:02:42.880 what will be a massive march as usual, there's something 39 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:45.880 else that's happening in the country that is completely new. 40 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:51.080 That is Mexico's presidential campaign and two women are the 41 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:56.280 front runners. On June second, Mexico will elect a female 42 00:02:56.320 --> 00:02:58.840 president for the first time in history. 43 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:02.760 Mexico is having a historical process right now. I think 44 00:03:02.880 --> 00:03:06.560 Mexico it's like Fara de Luz, It's a lighthouse. 45 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:11.239 We meet up with Susanna Ochoa. She's a young political activist. 46 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:14.600 She's flat about having a woman in the highest position 47 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:17.880 as the president of Mexico, but she also believes there's 48 00:03:17.880 --> 00:03:21.640 got to be a lot of grassroots activism still, but 49 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:25.120 not everyone feels the same way. While we were in 50 00:03:25.160 --> 00:03:28.600 the socalo, my colleague and I remember Penny Lee Amidez. 51 00:03:29.040 --> 00:03:31.920 So Penni le walks up to a man who's in 52 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:35.560 a wheelchair and she asks him how he feels about 53 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:36.440 the upcoming election. 54 00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:44.280 Are you going to vote bothar porquino porquio quando mexicosta 55 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:47.440 de la rigada la lagada. 56 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:51.360 So this man in the socalo says that the Mexican 57 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:54.200 economy is in a bad shape and that he's not 58 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:57.880 planning to vote. But if you see the data, actually 59 00:03:57.920 --> 00:04:01.920 the Mexican economy is doing general well, so it seems 60 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:04.760 like his problem is not with the economy, Maria, but 61 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:06.720 with the candidates themselves. 62 00:04:07.200 --> 00:04:09.600 What do you think about a woman running your country, 63 00:04:12.200 --> 00:04:15.000 bedwindsor Bess. 64 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:18.680 He told us that he is not okay with a 65 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:22.880 woman running for president, and he wanted to say that it. 66 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:25.200 Is a shame, a shame, a shame. 67 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:31.800 And this is a paradox, Maria, because the reality is 68 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:35.640 that Mexico will elect a female president before the United States. 69 00:04:36.640 --> 00:04:39.919 And it is true, it's not just a presidency. Right now, 70 00:04:39.960 --> 00:04:43.080 we have a woman leading the Supreme Court, we have 71 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:46.719 a woman leading the National Institute of Elections, and half 72 00:04:46.760 --> 00:04:48.440 of the Congress is female. 73 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:53.200 You know, that's right. Mexico has women in positions of power. 74 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:55.839 But at the same time, the truth is that there 75 00:04:55.960 --> 00:04:59.840 is lingering sexism. There is this macho culture that is 76 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:04.279 for president, and frankly, violence against women is out of control. 77 00:05:04.960 --> 00:05:08.560 Ten women are killed every day in Mexico, making it 78 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:12.000 the fourth most dangerous country worldwide in which to be 79 00:05:12.080 --> 00:05:16.040 a woman, just after South Africa, Brazil and Russia. So 80 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:19.840 to understand this paradox of how a country with such 81 00:05:19.880 --> 00:05:23.720 a violent history against women is now going to elect 82 00:05:23.880 --> 00:05:27.360 a woman president this hour, we're going to be reporting 83 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:31.320 from my home country and understanding everything leading up to 84 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:40.120 this historic election in Mexico from PRX and Fuduro Media. 85 00:05:40.200 --> 00:05:43.280 It's Latino USA. I'm Marie no Posa and today we're 86 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:56.440 covering the presidential elections in Mexico. I traveled to Mexico 87 00:05:56.520 --> 00:06:00.320 with my colleague Beni Lei Ramirez to unpack this true 88 00:06:00.440 --> 00:06:04.120 historic moment. And before joining let you know usay, Benny 89 00:06:04.200 --> 00:06:07.320 Lay worked as an investigative correspondent in Mexico, and well 90 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:11.920 she's been writing extensively on Mexican politics for more than 91 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:12.840 a decade. 92 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:15.440 Yes, Maria, and I'm happy to go with you and 93 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:18.160 to report what's going on in Mexican politics right now. 94 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:23.359 So in this episode, you will hear us documenting the 95 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:25.320 hope for me, it's hopeful. 96 00:06:25.080 --> 00:06:27.600 That a lot of young women and women that are 97 00:06:27.640 --> 00:06:30.080 really capable are taking apart in. 98 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:40.760 Politics, the anger, and you will be hearing from the 99 00:06:40.880 --> 00:06:42.920 two female candidates themselves. 100 00:06:43.440 --> 00:06:47.840 The front runner is Claudia Schenebaum. Her main opponent is 101 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:52.560 Sochil Galbez. And while we're talking Mexican politics, we're actually 102 00:06:52.640 --> 00:06:55.400 going to start our reporting in New York City and 103 00:06:55.440 --> 00:06:57.680 I'm going to hand it over to my colleague Benny Lay, 104 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:00.200 who's going to report from their first. 105 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:06.200 It's February twenty twenty four and I'm in downtown Manhattan 106 00:07:06.520 --> 00:07:11.200 entering a restaurant. It's a called Sunny Saturday, and we're 107 00:07:11.280 --> 00:07:14.600 here because Socil Galvez has been having an event with 108 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:19.280 Mexicans live in New York. I'm surrounded by mostly upper 109 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:23.920 class Mexicans, like business people, like lawyers and even architects, 110 00:07:24.640 --> 00:07:27.320 and they are gathering here today to meet in person 111 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:31.960 with Socil Galvez and she's the Mexican leading opposition candidate. 112 00:07:39.280 --> 00:07:42.360 Many of the people here believe that social is the 113 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:46.280 hope that their country needs after six years of the 114 00:07:46.320 --> 00:07:51.560 presidency of Andres Manuel Lopez Oredo and his party Morena. 115 00:07:51.880 --> 00:07:54.800 Honestly, Morena, or the ruling party right now, is not 116 00:07:55.080 --> 00:07:57.920 showing what real Mexic in the future can be. 117 00:07:58.440 --> 00:08:00.960 I was invited to meet Sochi, who I'm a great 118 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:01.360 fan of. 119 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:04.440 I'm not happy with the current Mexican government, and that's 120 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:05.040 why I'm here. 121 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:07.800 I wanted to thank her for being an inspiration. 122 00:08:08.880 --> 00:08:12.960 In twenty eighteen, Lopez Vrado became the first Mexican president 123 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:17.080 in this century who won the election representing a coalition 124 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:20.920 that was mainly leftist. Paris and now a woman with 125 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:25.040 indigenous fruits, who almost all the time is wearing a wepeel, 126 00:08:25.080 --> 00:08:28.320 which is a traditional Mexican dress, is trying to challenge 127 00:08:28.400 --> 00:08:32.200 him and his body. And this is the opposition candidate 128 00:08:32.400 --> 00:08:33.400 Social ads. 129 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:36.800 Into Lazia. 130 00:08:38.160 --> 00:08:41.200 So Pennile, Again, you're an expert on Mexican politics, so 131 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:44.319 phyllis in on what you can about sochilgai this. 132 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:49.000 Well, she's a computer engineer and also a businesswoman. And 133 00:08:49.040 --> 00:08:53.080 she says Maria that when she was studying to pay 134 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:56.000 for her education, she was selling yello. 135 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:59.000 You mean cello, like the dessert jello. Yeah. 136 00:08:59.240 --> 00:08:59.480 Yes. 137 00:08:59.760 --> 00:09:02.720 But now she's been in politics for the last two decades, 138 00:09:03.040 --> 00:09:05.200 and she was a mayor of one of the boroughs 139 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:09.000 of Mexico City, and she also was a senator. And 140 00:09:09.040 --> 00:09:11.360 the thing is that she has this kind of unique 141 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:13.520 way of Approachian politics. 142 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:19.080 I mean, it's unique, it's particular, it's attention grabbing. So, 143 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:22.800 for example, in June of twenty twenty three, when Sochil 144 00:09:22.880 --> 00:09:27.120 Galvez was a senator, she dressed up as a dinosaur 145 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:34.560 to criticize electoral reforms proposed by Lopez o Brador Lace Nadora. 146 00:09:34.640 --> 00:09:39.640 Sochil Galvez now we say dinosaur because in Mexico, when 147 00:09:39.880 --> 00:09:42.880 we refer to politicians who have been around a long time, 148 00:09:42.920 --> 00:09:46.640 we call them dinos saudios. And so yeah, she kind 149 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:49.160 of stood out on the Senate floor holding a sign 150 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:53.560 that read Jurassic Plan all of this while wearing a 151 00:09:53.640 --> 00:09:54.680 dinosaur costume. 152 00:09:55.040 --> 00:09:58.440 And of course something like this will grab the attention 153 00:09:58.800 --> 00:09:59.839 of the media. 154 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:01.160 So it worked for her. 155 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.800 But what even worked better is when she publicly took 156 00:10:04.880 --> 00:10:05.880 on President Lopes. 157 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:10.200 Oh yeah, I remember that because Sochil Galvez arrives at 158 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:13.760 the National Palace of Mexico. She's banging on the door 159 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:25.200 after riding up on her bicycle. What Sochi says is 160 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:27.400 that she wanted to set the record straight about an 161 00:10:27.400 --> 00:10:31.080 accusation that the president had made about her, and that 162 00:10:31.160 --> 00:10:33.960 she expected the president to open the door for her, 163 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:38.160 but he refused, and this brought her well a lot 164 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:40.600 of kind of performative attention. 165 00:10:41.280 --> 00:10:44.480 Yeah, of course it became a viral hit and from 166 00:10:44.520 --> 00:10:48.400 that moment the popularity of social among the opposition in 167 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:50.600 Mexico grew like crazy. 168 00:10:53.160 --> 00:10:56.120 A politician who seemed to come from nowhere to secure 169 00:10:56.160 --> 00:10:58.800 the kindi deacy of a coalition of parties for the 170 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:03.880 country's presidential elections. She Sochito Gallez, the plane speaking part 171 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:07.360 Indigenous senator who started off as a street vendor and 172 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:09.520 now runs two tech companies. 173 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:12.200 And just a few months after being chosen as the 174 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:15.840 opposition candidate, Souchil Galvez is on a plane heading to 175 00:11:15.920 --> 00:11:18.520 New York City and her first stop is in the 176 00:11:18.520 --> 00:11:24.880 Bronx at the Hunts Point Vegetable Market. And it was 177 00:11:24.920 --> 00:11:27.600 at the market where she met up with some Mexican 178 00:11:27.800 --> 00:11:30.000 voters who live in New York. 179 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:33.600 And then she took a bike and she went to 180 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:36.160 the New York Times to meet with reporters. 181 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:40.720 So Sochil Galvez seems to really like riding her bike 182 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:42.079 too important places. 183 00:11:42.280 --> 00:11:44.400 It definitely gets hurt some attention. 184 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:47.640 So after the New York Times, she toured New York 185 00:11:47.880 --> 00:11:50.959 for six days, and then she went off to Washington, 186 00:11:51.040 --> 00:11:54.680 d C. And she met with congressional committees and more 187 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:57.720 members of the media. And all of this is an 188 00:11:57.720 --> 00:12:00.920 effort to court Mexican voters that are living in the 189 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:05.680 United States and this voters matter Mania. Right now, we 190 00:12:05.800 --> 00:12:10.719 have over one hundred and fifty thousand Mexican voters registered 191 00:12:10.760 --> 00:12:14.679 to vote from the United States, and this number. It 192 00:12:14.760 --> 00:12:18.080 is important because just in two thousand and six, Felipe 193 00:12:18.160 --> 00:12:22.520 Galleron won the presidency of Mexico with a super tight 194 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:26.320 margin of two hundred and forty three thousand votes. 195 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.960 You know what, Pennilay, that was a nail binding election 196 00:12:30.160 --> 00:12:32.840 in two thousand and six. And it's because of that 197 00:12:32.920 --> 00:12:37.040 election that presidential candidates in Mexico understand full well that 198 00:12:37.160 --> 00:12:40.360 every single vote counts, even if it's from people living 199 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:45.679 outside of Mexico. Now, the thing about Sochil Galvez Pennilay, 200 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:52.439 is that she's got this pretty interesting, maybe strange coalition 201 00:12:52.640 --> 00:12:55.320 that is backing her. It's certainly the thing that made 202 00:12:55.400 --> 00:12:58.760 my eyes pop when I first heard about her candidacy. 203 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:01.680 It is a coalige and that I will never thought 204 00:13:01.920 --> 00:13:03.640 I will see in my life. 205 00:13:03.920 --> 00:13:06.680 And since Penny, you've been covering Mexico for half of 206 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:09.120 your career as a journalist, why don't you give us 207 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:12.480 a quick rundown of Mexican politics as fast as you 208 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:13.840 can for our listeners. 209 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:19.040 Yeah, of course, So this is a story. Most of 210 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:23.080 the twentieth century, Mexico was ruled by a party called 211 00:13:23.160 --> 00:13:28.359 Partido Revolutionari Institutional or the PRE and for seven decades 212 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:32.679 they run the country on a nationalist platform. Then in 213 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:36.760 the year two thousand, the right wing party Partido National 214 00:13:37.040 --> 00:13:40.720 ORPAN won the presidency, and this is the moment that 215 00:13:40.920 --> 00:13:44.800 Mexicans called the transition to democracy. 216 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:51.320 La cons politica de lososunidos Mexicanos. 217 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:54.880 But the corruption was rampant, both in the PRE and 218 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:55.439 in the PAN. 219 00:13:56.160 --> 00:14:00.800 So in twenty fourteen another party was founded, and it's 220 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:06.280 called Movimiento re National or MORENA. And who do you 221 00:14:06.400 --> 00:14:08.840 think founded this third party, Maria. 222 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:10.920 I'm going to take a big guess and say it 223 00:14:11.040 --> 00:14:15.080 is the current president. His name is Andres Manuel Lopez. 224 00:14:14.760 --> 00:14:22.600 Obradoral I patriot Camentel Cargo, the Presidente Republica cal. 225 00:14:22.400 --> 00:14:24.960 Pueblo mea con ferido. 226 00:14:27.400 --> 00:14:32.960 And his platform has been really anti PRE and anti PAN. 227 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:37.560 But now time has passed and Morena has been also 228 00:14:37.640 --> 00:14:42.240 dealing with its own corruption scandals. It's also true that 229 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:46.480 despite all of this, in just a decade, Morena rose 230 00:14:46.560 --> 00:14:51.040 from being a street focused social movement to becoming this 231 00:14:51.400 --> 00:14:56.560 huge ruling party that has been winning the presidency, winning 232 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:00.440 most of the governorships, and also representing more more than 233 00:15:00.520 --> 00:15:01.560 half the Congress. 234 00:15:11.640 --> 00:15:14.000 That's true any lay it really was quite a rise 235 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:16.440 for Morena to come from the streets all the way 236 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:20.239 to the presidential palace. So we have these two candidates, 237 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:23.640 the two women, but there's also a third candidate. He's 238 00:15:23.680 --> 00:15:27.280 a man. His name is Jorge Alberts Minus, and he 239 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:30.200 really wasn't getting much attention at all until he released 240 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:33.720 a song that went virals. 241 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:42.720 Yeah, it is a song called Presidente Minus, and now 242 00:15:42.760 --> 00:15:46.400 he has millions of views on YouTube and on TikTok. 243 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:50.960 But let's get back to Sochi Galvez, who is the 244 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:53.920 main opponent here, and let's talk a little bit more 245 00:15:53.920 --> 00:15:56.600 about that strange coalition of the pretty and the fun. 246 00:15:57.120 --> 00:15:59.560 Dear listener, you may be saying, what does that really mean? 247 00:16:00.040 --> 00:16:02.880 It would essentially mean as if the Democrats and the 248 00:16:02.880 --> 00:16:07.520 Republican parties would run on a joint ticket. That's how 249 00:16:07.560 --> 00:16:08.880 strange this coalition is. 250 00:16:10.280 --> 00:16:13.000 So we decided to go straight to the source and 251 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:15.080 ask social directly. 252 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:20.000 And that's coming up after the break. Stay with us, 253 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:40.240 don't go by us. Hey, welcome back. It's let you know, USA. 254 00:16:40.400 --> 00:16:43.600 I'm Maria no Josa and I'm with my colleague Benny Leiramidez. 255 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:49.400 Today we're covering the Mexican presidential elections, which are historic 256 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:53.040 because in twenty twenty four, Mexico, a country of more 257 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:56.000 than one hundred and twenty million people and one of 258 00:16:56.040 --> 00:16:59.800 the top commercial partners for the United States, will be 259 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:04.640 electing its first ever woman president, Danny lay. 260 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:08.520 Yes Maria So so far, we met up with supporters 261 00:17:08.520 --> 00:17:12.359 for the opposition candidate Sochi Galvez in a restaurant in Manhattan, 262 00:17:12.800 --> 00:17:15.840 and now we'll be talking to the candidate herself. 263 00:17:16.119 --> 00:17:17.640 In fact, we got a chance to do a full 264 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:20.760 sit down interview with her in a midtown Manhattan studio 265 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:28.640 late one evening in March. She came in surrounded by 266 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:31.400 her campaign staff, which to me was a little surprising 267 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:33.920 because it was all men except for one woman who 268 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:38.160 was carrying her clothes. Now, Sochi was very approachable when 269 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:41.360 we all first arrived, so right off the bat we 270 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:44.120 asked her what she would do differently as the leader 271 00:17:44.280 --> 00:17:50.159 of this interesting coalition. So so chill, to be honest 272 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:53.320 with you, I said, wait a second, so ChIL is running, 273 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:58.160 but the pree is supporting her, the band is supporting her, 274 00:17:58.520 --> 00:18:01.040 And I had a little bit of a of a 275 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:04.520 brain explosion. I was like, what have I seen? You're 276 00:18:05.040 --> 00:18:09.520 no respons So she told us that she is not 277 00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:12.199 the one who is responsible for the corruption that is 278 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:15.000 brought on by these parties in the past. Then she 279 00:18:15.080 --> 00:18:17.760 doubled down and she said that if there was corruption 280 00:18:18.080 --> 00:18:21.600 in this coalition, that she would punish this person, even 281 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:25.720 if it's within her own group. Then I asked, sochil 282 00:18:25.760 --> 00:18:31.080 Galbez about what this particular historic election means. Did you 283 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:35.600 imagine that a Mexico could exist where a woman could 284 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:39.480 be running for president in your lifetime? No, mi ma, 285 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:45.439 She says she never imagined that women could be in 286 00:18:45.520 --> 00:18:48.639 such positions of power in Mexico, as they were always 287 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:53.359 subjugated to the domestic sphere, making tortillas, bringing in the firewood. 288 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:56.919 So I asked her how she defined herself, and she 289 00:18:57.040 --> 00:19:01.600 says that she considers herself a woman of the center left. 290 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:03.760 And how do you define feminism? 291 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:09.919 So you sentiva in totlus temas enuestra be the personal, and. 292 00:19:10.040 --> 00:19:12.760 She said that she believes in equality for all women 293 00:19:13.040 --> 00:19:16.720 in terms of political, economic, and reproductive rights. And to 294 00:19:16.760 --> 00:19:20.240 emphasize why this matters to her, she told us she 295 00:19:20.320 --> 00:19:22.120 suffered violence as a child. 296 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:25.639 Ire brutalmentrio lento. 297 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.359 This story has become a part of Sochil Galvez's some speech. 298 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:33.880 Her father, she says, was a violent man who terrorized 299 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:36.520 her as a child. One time, she tells us in 300 00:19:36.560 --> 00:19:39.520 the interview, he pointed a shotgun at her mother and 301 00:19:39.600 --> 00:19:42.600 threatened her. She says that they escaped, but that this 302 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:45.919 experience marked her. And then I asked her what she 303 00:19:46.080 --> 00:19:49.440 thinks the solution might be for this kind of gender 304 00:19:49.600 --> 00:19:55.600 based violence in Mexico. Ins what so she said to 305 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:58.240 us was that women in Mexico need a support system 306 00:19:58.320 --> 00:20:01.080 in cases of violence, and that men need to know 307 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:04.680 that if they commit violence against women, they will be prosecuted. 308 00:20:05.560 --> 00:20:09.000 Then we moved on to another topic which actually matters 309 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:14.080 to Mexican voters in the US. Here's my colleague, Pennilet, So. 310 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:20.320 What are your thoughts regarding immigration Mexico, Comette reverro Guando Ceta. 311 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:26.000 She said, Mexico made a big mistake when it agreed 312 00:20:26.040 --> 00:20:27.840 to the Remaining Mexico Program. 313 00:20:28.280 --> 00:20:32.080 Now, remember, Remain in Mexico was a policy implemented by 314 00:20:32.119 --> 00:20:37.320 Donald Trump. It required migrants seeking asylum to remain in 315 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:41.000 Mexico as they awaited their court dates in the United States, 316 00:20:41.320 --> 00:20:42.960 which had never happened before. 317 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:47.320 So Basically, what she is proposing is that Mexico continues 318 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:50.760 with the program as long as the United States gives money. 319 00:20:51.040 --> 00:20:54.600 So that Mexico, and I'm going to emphasize this because 320 00:20:54.600 --> 00:20:55.640 it's a direct. 321 00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:59.760 Port from her treats immigrants with the dignity that they do. 322 00:21:00.800 --> 00:21:03.959 Now, that's an interesting choice of words. So then I 323 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:08.199 asked her what she would plan to do instead, So, 324 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:13.800 what is your fresh new approach towards the issue of immigration, 325 00:21:14.280 --> 00:21:21.320 Pomena Mundi. Now, she did not really answer the question, 326 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:24.480 but she did say to us that we needed to 327 00:21:24.560 --> 00:21:29.760 understand that immigration is a worldwide problem and therefore the solution, 328 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:32.720 she said, was to sit and talk. 329 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:42.160 Since Semossa Marino is the place. 330 00:21:42.560 --> 00:21:45.520 She replied that if we don't sit and have a dialogue, 331 00:21:45.760 --> 00:21:49.040 young people will keep dying on both sides of the border. 332 00:21:49.800 --> 00:21:52.879 For over an hour, we spoke about Mexican politics, and 333 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:55.560 we questioned her plans for the government if she was 334 00:21:55.600 --> 00:21:56.399 to come to power. 335 00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:58.720 Then, in the middle of it all, kind of out 336 00:21:58.760 --> 00:22:03.280 of nowhere, the so ChIL Galvez threw some serious shade 337 00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:08.159 at her opponent, Claudia shame bomb yok Okay Clauda. She 338 00:22:10.520 --> 00:22:13.840 so ChIL Galvez told us that her rival would never 339 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:16.199 give us a chance to do an interview like the 340 00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:23.119 one she did with us. Well, obviously we wanted to 341 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:26.520 get that interview with Claudia shame bomb, and we wanted 342 00:22:26.520 --> 00:22:29.679 to talk with other Mexican voters on the ground witnessing 343 00:22:29.760 --> 00:22:30.760 this historic ellection. 344 00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:34.080 So we got on a plane and we traveled to 345 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:34.880 Mexico City. 346 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:44.439 So we are beginning our first day of reporting on 347 00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:48.520 the ground in Mexico City. I barabarrier. We're stuck in traffic. 348 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:53.080 This wall is pretty intense. I'm like pretty hot, it's 349 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:53.760 very hot. 350 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:58.000 Actually, we were on our way to a market in Istapalapa, 351 00:22:58.080 --> 00:23:01.320 and this is one of the poor and biggest towns 352 00:23:01.320 --> 00:23:04.920 of Mexico City. The population here is over one point 353 00:23:05.080 --> 00:23:05.800 eight million. 354 00:23:06.320 --> 00:23:09.400 We had heard that Sochi Galvez was having an event here. 355 00:23:11.320 --> 00:23:13.560 We are now coming upon the part of the market 356 00:23:13.600 --> 00:23:16.200 and there are people gathered. They are all Soachi supporters. 357 00:23:16.760 --> 00:23:19.160 I see a man carrying a flag of the bun 358 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:21.680 the Bartido, a national. 359 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:25.679 We approach a fifty year old woman. She is a 360 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:26.479 street vendor. 361 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:29.720 She is selling to status and she says that she's 362 00:23:29.760 --> 00:23:31.640 a strong Galvez supporter. 363 00:23:32.520 --> 00:23:37.040 So what in particular, do you like about Sochisona. 364 00:23:37.600 --> 00:23:41.200 She says that she likes Galvez because she is humble. 365 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:44.320 And then as we're walking away, another woman in the 366 00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:48.320 market started literally yelling a political slogan at us, all 367 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:51.560 of this in support of Claudia. Shamebam again. She's the 368 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:55.560 candidate coming from the ruling party of Morina. So no 369 00:23:55.560 --> 00:23:59.120 no starko claudialloies so no. 370 00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:00.560 No estarco Claudiao. 371 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:04.520 Obviously, we approached her to find out more, because who 372 00:24:04.600 --> 00:24:07.560 yells at reporters just like that? Why did you start 373 00:24:07.600 --> 00:24:18.240 screaming for Claudia? Just as we walked by Mostrado, she 374 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:21.520 tells us that she believes that Claudia is the one 375 00:24:21.520 --> 00:24:27.879 who has shown true solidarity with the people. Now you 376 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:31.920 might be wondering, dear listener, who exactly is Claudia Shanbaum. 377 00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:35.560 She represents the party in power, but she is a 378 00:24:35.600 --> 00:24:38.399 candidate all on her own. So Penny tell us a 379 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:40.400 little bit more about Claudia Shanbaum. 380 00:24:40.840 --> 00:24:44.119 So Shanbaum was born to a secular Jewish family in 381 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:44.920 Mexico City. 382 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:46.359 She is a scientist. 383 00:24:46.760 --> 00:24:50.439 Actually it's interesting because she's a scientist, but she was 384 00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:54.760 a political activist and this started decades ago when she 385 00:24:54.840 --> 00:24:56.440 was a university student. 386 00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:00.840 I'm from as beginnings. 387 00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:03.800 She went on and she became the Secretary of the 388 00:25:03.840 --> 00:25:07.280 Environment of Mexico City, and all this happened in the 389 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:11.439 early two thousands when Lopez o Rador was the city 390 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:16.040 major and since then their political careers have been united. 391 00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:21.600 Then in twenty eighteen, Claudia becomes the mayor of Mexico City, 392 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:24.800 which is huge, it's one of the largest cities in 393 00:25:24.840 --> 00:25:28.000 the world. And at the same time Andres Manuel Lopez 394 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:32.080 o Rador becomes the president. So yes, their political careers 395 00:25:32.560 --> 00:25:35.200 are connected. They have a close relationship. 396 00:25:35.760 --> 00:25:45.400 Yer Mumino well, she the center Andre Man's douin Mosam. 397 00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:49.680 The opposition likes to say that Claudia Schambaum got this 398 00:25:49.760 --> 00:25:54.760 coveted position because of her loyalty to Lopez Obrador, and 399 00:25:54.840 --> 00:25:58.800 she says that claim is misogynistic. 400 00:26:00.320 --> 00:26:06.080 Or do you want to start and applica. 401 00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:11.639