WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:04.120 Welcome to parent Data. If you read my newsletter or 2 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:06.280 follow me on Instagram, you know that running is a 3 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:08.480 big part of my life, and I know it's a 4 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:11.160 big part of many of your lives too. One way 5 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:12.799 I see that is the number of questions that you 6 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:16.320 send me that are about running, running data, postpartum, running, 7 00:00:16.720 --> 00:00:20.200 running shoes. So I thought we'd try to collect some 8 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:23.320 answers all in one place. I solicited questions from you, 9 00:00:23.560 --> 00:00:27.480 and I've recruited the incomparable Laura Green, funniest running person 10 00:00:27.520 --> 00:00:30.880 I know by far, to ask the questions. It is 11 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:33.400 a fun and it's a special episode. So let's jump 12 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:38.839 right in or run right in, I guess. So, Laura, 13 00:00:39.120 --> 00:00:41.680 thank you very much for doing this. I want you 14 00:00:41.720 --> 00:00:44.000 to know that my family is a very big fan 15 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:46.720 of yours and we think you're very funny, and so 16 00:00:47.080 --> 00:00:49.640 I'm just thrilled that you agree to do this. So 17 00:00:49.720 --> 00:00:51.640 I'm going to let you be in charge now. It's 18 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:54.600 the biggest compliment here you are. Go ahead, be funny. 19 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:59.160 Welcome to the Emily Ostar podcast. It's called parent Data. 20 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:02.160 It's called parent Data. Yeah, but today it's all about you. 21 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:05.759 So it's like, so Emily on the run right. 22 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:07.960 No, exactly. It's like, that's such a good title. Somebody 23 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:13.440 else should use that for a popular podcast. Whatever. It's cool. Okay, well, 24 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:14.840 well let's just jump right in. 25 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:19.760 We have a list of questions that were curated from Instagram, 26 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:21.959 and then your team put together this nice long list 27 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:25.480 for me, and then I chose my favorites. So the 28 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:27.800 first most one of the most popular ones. We want 29 00:01:27.800 --> 00:01:29.880 to know your running story. I think that that's just 30 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:32.240 a great place to start. When did you get into 31 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:35.040 running and when did you get more competitive with it? 32 00:01:35.080 --> 00:01:38.640 Because you're out there crushing races. We see you, We 33 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:44.560 see you. That's nice. Okay. So my family was very 34 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:46.560 into running when I was a kid. My dad is 35 00:01:46.600 --> 00:01:49.680 like still he's eighty and he runs like every day. 36 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:52.840 He's not that fast anymore, but you know he's into it. 37 00:01:52.880 --> 00:01:55.720 That's amazing. No, that's awesome. So when we were little, 38 00:01:55.800 --> 00:01:58.720 we would run. Grew up in New Haven and so 39 00:01:58.720 --> 00:02:01.920 there's like a Labor Day race that's like a very 40 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:04.480 big deal for my family. There's a twenty k and 41 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:07.320 a five k, and so I think as of like 42 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:09.760 six or something, we were running. We were running the 43 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:11.600 five k of like a picture of my brother at 44 00:02:11.600 --> 00:02:13.160 like the age of I mean, he can't be more 45 00:02:13.200 --> 00:02:16.080 than five or six, like crossing the finish line, stopping 46 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:19.880 his watch because like you got to get get your 47 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:22.800 time there. And so I ran as a kid, and 48 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:25.680 then I ran competitively. I ran in high school on 49 00:02:25.720 --> 00:02:28.280 the class country team, and like I was, okay, what. 50 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:30.720 Was your event in track? Did you run track? 51 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:34.760 In track? I ran the sixteen and the thirty two hundred, 52 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:40.280 and I was not that great at them, Like I 53 00:02:40.320 --> 00:02:42.760 don't remember. I didn't like track, except I liked the 54 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:45.240 pull vault the guys who pull vaulted. That was like 55 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:47.400 that was a really cute guy named Josh. 56 00:02:47.480 --> 00:02:47.960 Hi Josh. 57 00:02:48.040 --> 00:02:50.040 I'm sure Josh is listening, Hi. 58 00:02:50.040 --> 00:02:53.160 Josh Josh didn't him the pole vaulters. If you're out there, 59 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:55.560 we love you. 60 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:59.920 And then I spent a long time sort of after 61 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:03.120 high school kind of like running as an exercise activity. 62 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:05.520 And you know, I ran some in like I ran 63 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:07.799 in college, but like not very much. And my husband 64 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.760 and I started running together when we got together in college, 65 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:13.200 and so actually for a long time we ran together. 66 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:16.440 And then at some point, basically when I was going 67 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:18.639 to turn forty, I was like, okay, I'm going to 68 00:03:18.720 --> 00:03:21.560 get faster now because I can't possibly be getting old. 69 00:03:22.040 --> 00:03:23.760 And so I started like running more on my own, 70 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:25.359 and then the pandemic hit and so then I was 71 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:27.000 running a lot because it was like what I'm most 72 00:03:27.040 --> 00:03:28.679 am I going to do? And then I like joined 73 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:30.560 this running club because I was desperate to see other 74 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:33.000 humans who were not in my like basement, and that 75 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:35.160 was the only activity. And so then like sort of 76 00:03:35.160 --> 00:03:38.760 the last three years, I've gotten like more into being 77 00:03:38.760 --> 00:03:40.880 competitive about it. That's amazing. 78 00:03:40.920 --> 00:03:43.920 So your midlife crisis has been incredibly healthy. 79 00:03:45.160 --> 00:03:48.040 It's some aspects, this aspect of it perhaps, although I'm 80 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:50.160 not always sure, Like there are times when you're like, 81 00:03:50.160 --> 00:03:52.400 what is this really? Is my niece supposed to feel 82 00:03:52.440 --> 00:03:53.840 like that? It is? 83 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:54.600 It's good for me. 84 00:03:56.320 --> 00:03:58.600 So it's been more of a recreational thing until the 85 00:03:58.640 --> 00:03:59.360 last two years. 86 00:03:59.440 --> 00:04:01.600 What have you done to get faster? 87 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:02.200 Have you? 88 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:03.120 Have you gotten faster? 89 00:04:03.440 --> 00:04:06.200 Yes, I've definitely gotten faster. I mean I did like 90 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:08.960 a lot of things, mostly like running more, and also 91 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:10.560 I got a coach and so then she made me 92 00:04:10.640 --> 00:04:13.120 like run different workouts and we can talk about that. 93 00:04:13.200 --> 00:04:15.400 But like I think more or less answer is like 94 00:04:15.480 --> 00:04:18.240 trying I like try to get faster, and because I 95 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:22.240 had not ever really tried that much before since high school, 96 00:04:22.960 --> 00:04:25.680 there was like a lot of space for fasterness. 97 00:04:25.960 --> 00:04:29.039 I find myself getting very jealous of people who come 98 00:04:29.080 --> 00:04:32.600 into running or in their like thirties forties. 99 00:04:32.320 --> 00:04:34.040 Yeah, because you're like never going to be as good 100 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:35.159 as you were. Never. 101 00:04:35.320 --> 00:04:35.560 Never. 102 00:04:36.520 --> 00:04:39.320 So that's why I just keep changing distances, because like 103 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:41.560 I did a ten k the other day, and I've 104 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:43.719 never done a ten k before, so then that just 105 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:46.080 counts as a PR. So I just need to keep 106 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.760 changing things around. Maybe I'll hit up the trails. 107 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:52.400 So my one thing you should know is that my 108 00:04:52.560 --> 00:04:55.920 father did some research. My father Hillstone Economists. He did 109 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:59.240 some research back in like the nineteen seventies about how 110 00:04:59.320 --> 00:05:02.760 quickly people slow down in their running times. And he 111 00:05:02.960 --> 00:05:07.320 has a formula for adjusting your time so you can 112 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:12.039 continue to PR as you age. I love that like 113 00:05:12.080 --> 00:05:15.360 a handicap, Yeah, exactly, you can continue to have an 114 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:17.080 age adjusted PR. So think about that. 115 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:21.880 So what advice would you have for someone who's just 116 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:24.719 getting into running at any age but just they're a 117 00:05:24.760 --> 00:05:27.080 newish runner, what advice would you give them? 118 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:31.200 I think mainly that it's like fun. I really liked 119 00:05:31.200 --> 00:05:33.680 your run. Other I mean, the competitive part like makes 120 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:36.719 me nervous and has all kinds of slightly as positive aspects, 121 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:39.920 but like overall, if you do this some it will 122 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:42.640 get easier and it is a really good way to 123 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:47.080 like just be outside. And it seems like it will 124 00:05:47.080 --> 00:05:49.679 be awful sometimes, but actually it's really nice. 125 00:05:50.640 --> 00:05:53.359 So you love your data, and the people listening to 126 00:05:53.400 --> 00:05:56.440 this podcast, I assume love data as well. How have 127 00:05:56.600 --> 00:06:01.360 you used data to improve your running improve your performance? 128 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:05.400 What metrics do you kind of pay the most attention? So, 129 00:06:05.400 --> 00:06:07.640 so the main thing I learned from my running coach 130 00:06:08.080 --> 00:06:10.080 is that you should pay attention to your heart rate 131 00:06:10.200 --> 00:06:12.800 in addition to your paces. So I pay attention to 132 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:15.720 how quickly like my mile pace or whatever, like how 133 00:06:15.760 --> 00:06:19.560 fast I'm running, but then also how high my heart 134 00:06:19.640 --> 00:06:22.680 rate is for that pace. And this is the new 135 00:06:22.760 --> 00:06:25.160 innovation that I've discovered in the last year. Other people, 136 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:27.600 I think did know this before, but it was new 137 00:06:27.640 --> 00:06:29.840 to me. There's a difference between seven thirty mile at 138 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:31.520 a one hundred and forty seven heart rate at a 139 00:06:31.520 --> 00:06:33.599 seven thirty mile at one hundred and seventy one heart rate, 140 00:06:33.640 --> 00:06:37.120 and like that's an important piece of data. But mostly 141 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:40.160 I just like look at times or whether I can 142 00:06:40.200 --> 00:06:43.159 do the workouts that I'm assigned. 143 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:45.320 And do you have trouble ever just ignoring it and 144 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:47.640 being like, you know what, I'm just gonna go on feel. 145 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:50.680 Today or do you just love the numbers? I just 146 00:06:50.760 --> 00:06:53.719 I never go on feel. I don't. People are always saying, 147 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:56.880 go on feel. Oh what is that? Like? I mean 148 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:59.279 that's really hard. So like I will often get like, okay, 149 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:02.440 go on, go on, do it aerobic run. I can't 150 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:04.440 do that. That's not how your brain works. Yeah, that's 151 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:06.680 why I have to run with like other people, because 152 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:08.600 when I'm with other people, it's much better because they 153 00:07:08.640 --> 00:07:10.720 just like say what we're you know, they go on feel, 154 00:07:11.200 --> 00:07:13.560 but I like numbers. Do you go on you run 155 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:14.840 on feel? Y? Oh? 156 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:15.200 Yeah. 157 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:17.480 I don't usually run with a watch, Like I have 158 00:07:17.520 --> 00:07:20.800 no watches on right now. When I'm not specifically doing 159 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:25.040 a workout or training for a race, I go no watch. 160 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:27.640 I will record it on like Strava. 161 00:07:27.400 --> 00:07:29.520 In my pocket and the phone on the phone, just 162 00:07:29.520 --> 00:07:31.400 so I know what myle edge I did that week. 163 00:07:31.440 --> 00:07:35.080 But yeah, I just go out there and I'm like, okay, 164 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:38.600 this should be you know, threshold, this should be aerobic, 165 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:41.160 this should be chill, this should be a recovery run. 166 00:07:41.280 --> 00:07:44.120 And it's just kind of I'm like, yeah, I don't 167 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:46.400 do that. Also, I will like run back and forth 168 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:49.320 on the block to get to like an even number. 169 00:07:49.960 --> 00:07:52.920 Absolutely like the other like yesterday my watch messed up 170 00:07:53.200 --> 00:07:56.080 and I got I ended up basically just like running 171 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:58.840 back and forth, and then like our neighbors were there 172 00:07:58.880 --> 00:08:02.960 with their dogs, like running back. I was like, I'm 173 00:08:02.960 --> 00:08:05.360 trying to finish. It's like one, you know, it was 174 00:08:05.400 --> 00:08:06.760 like my cool time was like two miles. I was 175 00:08:06.760 --> 00:08:08.720 like one, boy, night doesn't matter, it's a cool down, 176 00:08:08.840 --> 00:08:09.480 Like what is this? 177 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:12.600 It's just like I got to hit two? Yeah, this 178 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:14.760 is I mean there are times where I'm like that. 179 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:19.400 But there was a stretch where, like, not even intentionally 180 00:08:19.440 --> 00:08:21.960 doing it, I was hitting point nine to nine on 181 00:08:22.080 --> 00:08:24.080 like three runs in a row, and my friend texted 182 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:25.960 me and she goes, I think you're a serial killer. 183 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:29.760 It looks like as how do you walk in the door? 184 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.080 How do you just want to do it? I think 185 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:34.200 that's really great. Weird. 186 00:08:36.760 --> 00:08:38.840 Okay, well that actually I'm going to kind of skip 187 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:41.240 around a little on these questions your heart rate? 188 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:42.640 Do you do that on your watch? Do you have 189 00:08:42.640 --> 00:08:43.640 a heart rate monitor? 190 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:45.920 I do it on my watch. I know that people 191 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:48.400 say the heart rate monitor is better, and I'm sure 192 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:53.200 that's correct, but I'm like, not, we haven't gotten that extreme. Yeah. 193 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:55.240 I've only used it a few times in my life, 194 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:57.600 and it is really helpful because it's much more accurate. 195 00:08:57.920 --> 00:08:59.920 But every time I strap it on, it makes me 196 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:01.600 feel like I'm a Coburn or something. 197 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:03.920 Right exactly, It's like, what exactly am I. 198 00:09:03.880 --> 00:09:09.160 Doing in It's like, do you have any other running 199 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:11.880 accessories or gear that you really love that you can't 200 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:12.680 run without? 201 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:15.680 Or so. One thing I want you to understand is 202 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:19.480 that recently my husband allowed me to devote an entire 203 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:23.160 cabinet in our family room to my running stuff. And 204 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:26.760 it's like it was like, I mean, it was it's love, 205 00:09:26.920 --> 00:09:29.480 you know. And so I have like my different shoes 206 00:09:29.520 --> 00:09:31.959 in there, you know. I mean, I'm gonna have to 207 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:33.400 go with like the suit I like. I like the 208 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:36.280 super shoes. Who would not like the super shoes? But 209 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:38.160 the other thing I really like is this like anti 210 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:41.360 chafing stuff. Okay, what do you go with? It's like 211 00:09:41.400 --> 00:09:44.720 the squirrel the nut butter squirrel nut. It's good for it, 212 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:47.240 not chafing. I have a lot of other random stuff 213 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:50.000 in There are different hats. Yeah, I don't know gels 214 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:54.720 and my whole gel situation. Do you listen to music 215 00:09:54.920 --> 00:09:59.120 or podcasts? I listened to both music and podcasts. I 216 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:02.320 have the shocks head that you also like. Ali on 217 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:04.520 the Run gave me some shocks head phones. It's a 218 00:10:04.520 --> 00:10:07.560 gift for being guests on her show several years ago, 219 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:08.960 and I love them. 220 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:10.800 There's kind of no going back. 221 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:11.400 Yeah. 222 00:10:11.760 --> 00:10:15.280 I recently snapped mine in half by accidents. Oh no, 223 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:17.560 they weren't at like the bottom of my bag. This 224 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:20.280 is that's a classic lore story. I tend to break 225 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.240 everything and it's really hard to break them, and I 226 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:24.720 found a way so just for like a week, I 227 00:10:24.760 --> 00:10:26.280 while I was waiting for a new pair, I had 228 00:10:26.280 --> 00:10:30.480 to put the ones back into my ear and it's 229 00:10:30.520 --> 00:10:31.400 it's nasty. 230 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:34.000 I can't believe I ever ran with earbuds in my ear. 231 00:10:34.160 --> 00:10:35.760 Yeah, and then they're all swick wet. 232 00:10:36.280 --> 00:10:38.400 They're like wet, and in the middle of an East 233 00:10:38.400 --> 00:10:42.840 Coast summer, they're like pools of sweat and they're. 234 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:45.640 It's not good. It's not good. It's not good. The 235 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:47.880 other thing I really like is a pham roller. I 236 00:10:47.920 --> 00:10:48.840 love my phone roller. 237 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:51.280 You're one of the few out there. I mean everyone 238 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:53.800 should be foam rolling, but most people buy them and 239 00:10:53.920 --> 00:10:55.559 I just sit in the corner of the room. 240 00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:57.600 Like what I like. I like my phone roller. 241 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:00.280 Well, okay, so actually you were talking about being able 242 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:04.120 to hear the city around you, your neighbors around you. 243 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:06.760 Do you ever feel unsafe and what do you do 244 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:09.280 to help calm your nerves or improve your safety while 245 00:11:09.280 --> 00:11:12.280 on the run, especially you're an early morning runner sometimes 246 00:11:12.400 --> 00:11:13.040 or all the time. 247 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:16.760 Yeah, So I think they're like two different parts of safety. 248 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:19.600 So one is about cars. I worry a lot about cars, 249 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:22.040 and I have like a lot of different lights, arm 250 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:26.040 lights and other lights that I think are like very 251 00:11:26.160 --> 00:11:29.440 important for not being hit by cars. And then I 252 00:11:29.520 --> 00:11:31.440 try to run and run in places that I know 253 00:11:31.520 --> 00:11:33.360 where I know the other people who are running. Like 254 00:11:33.400 --> 00:11:36.040 I'm near where I live. There's a boulevard and people 255 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:37.920 run there at all of the times of the day, 256 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:40.040 and it's the same people. So I see the same 257 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:43.080 people all the time, and I'm lucky that it is 258 00:11:43.160 --> 00:11:47.640 quite a safe area. Overall, and I don't know. I 259 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:50.520 try not to do things that seem unsafe. 260 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:54.040 Do you use like the Strava thing where you can 261 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:57.040 like send a beacon to your husband or anything like 262 00:11:57.080 --> 00:11:59.240 that for better or for worse? 263 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:02.480 My husband had like like location tracking. My husband, I 264 00:12:02.520 --> 00:12:05.520 share location tracking so he would know he knows where 265 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:10.559 I am at all times and including when I run. Great. 266 00:12:12.800 --> 00:12:16.360 Okay, So I'm gonna end this portion with some of 267 00:12:16.400 --> 00:12:19.839 your favorite things. So we already did running accessories and gear. 268 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:22.200 What has been your favorite race? 269 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:26.640 The Boston Women's ten k last fall? And I will 270 00:12:26.640 --> 00:12:30.360 tell you for like several reasons. It's very flat. It 271 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:34.760 was the first race in a long time that I 272 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:38.720 actually felt great the entire time, Like I felt good 273 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:41.760 and I was like running fast, but I felt really good. 274 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:45.839 And also like, because it's almost entirely women, the porta 275 00:12:45.920 --> 00:12:49.760 potties were so clean, Like it was like an amazing 276 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:51.400 quorta body experience. 277 00:12:51.880 --> 00:12:53.280 Emily, I just did. 278 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:56.199 I just went to a women's run out in Snowholmish 279 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.679 and I did some stand up the night before at 280 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:01.560 this pump up party, and the whole thing was about 281 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:04.920 how women's races are better and why and the first one, 282 00:13:05.040 --> 00:13:06.640 I was like, the porta potty scene is going to 283 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:07.600 be so nice tomorrow. 284 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:10.120 Just it was so nice, so nice. 285 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:14.320 They're cleaner, the lines are super efficient, like because we're 286 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:16.520 so fast, we're so used to having to pee as 287 00:13:16.520 --> 00:13:17.400 fast as we can. 288 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:22.320 No one's in there wasting our time. No, totally. So 289 00:13:22.400 --> 00:13:24.240 that was great. That was a great and it can 290 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:28.360 say your time forty two oh seven nice? Is that 291 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.280 a pr well. I had never run it before, so yeah, 292 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:34.679 I never run it anyway. Yeah, we are. 293 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:38.160 That's flying. 294 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:42.440 So as someone who trains in Boston, pancake flat for 295 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:44.640 the most part, you have to actually seek out hills 296 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:45.760 around here, and I don't. 297 00:13:45.800 --> 00:13:47.880 I usually just am lazy about it, just run on 298 00:13:47.920 --> 00:13:49.800 the river, like yeah, exactly. 299 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:53.000 So this this race that I did on Sunday was 300 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:57.040 also incredibly flat. I think my strap at the end 301 00:13:57.120 --> 00:13:59.920 said there was like thirty feet of elevation gain over. 302 00:13:59.760 --> 00:14:02.719 Six but I didn't. I didn't see that yet. 303 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:04.840 And I was talking to my friends and debriefing after 304 00:14:04.880 --> 00:14:06.280 and I go, didn't you feel like we're. 305 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:09.319 Going uphill like both ways? And they were like, what 306 00:14:09.640 --> 00:14:10.360 are your talk? 307 00:14:12.800 --> 00:14:14.839 I am the worst hill runner. I used to live 308 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:17.720 in San Francisco and now I have absolutely no hill 309 00:14:17.800 --> 00:14:20.400 legs left in me. Boston has killed them. 310 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:23.160 I do not like hills. I like the East Bate 311 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:26.520 bike path, and Providence is like it's just flat sometimes. 312 00:14:26.520 --> 00:14:28.760 My coach just like you could seek out some additional hills. 313 00:14:28.800 --> 00:14:31.480 I'm like, but why these say bike that is so nice? 314 00:14:31.880 --> 00:14:33.000 Totally why would I do that? 315 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:39.160 Okay, who are your favorite running pros? Do you follow 316 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:40.280 the professional scene? 317 00:14:40.920 --> 00:14:44.400 I do? I do follow the professional running scene. You know. 318 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:46.840 I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Molly Huddle because she 319 00:14:47.280 --> 00:14:51.000 also is here and I like to pretend that we're friends. 320 00:14:51.920 --> 00:14:54.280 You like about it. I like, never follow professional sports, 321 00:14:54.560 --> 00:14:57.040 but it's like so easy to start pretending people are 322 00:14:57.080 --> 00:14:59.400 like your buddies, and you're like, because you like know 323 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:01.560 all about your like oh yeah, like Kira was doing 324 00:15:01.560 --> 00:15:03.920 this this way, And my husband's like, do you know her? 325 00:15:04.280 --> 00:15:04.360 No? 326 00:15:05.160 --> 00:15:07.640 No, But I instagram dmder wants you to my back, 327 00:15:07.680 --> 00:15:11.800 so I think we're basically like related now, So I'm 328 00:15:11.800 --> 00:15:13.720 gonna go with I'm gonna go with Molly Huddle because 329 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:15.760 I like her and she will instagram DM me back, 330 00:15:15.920 --> 00:15:18.800 and you know, I like the the like Emily system 331 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:21.360 I don't know. There's all these like Rhode Island, Rhode Island, 332 00:15:21.360 --> 00:15:23.000 people like Roland. 333 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:27.360 Guys, Okay, favorite podcasts, favorite music, What are you listening to? 334 00:15:27.520 --> 00:15:29.440 I think I kind of already asked you this. So 335 00:15:29.760 --> 00:15:33.040 I listen to a lot of like short portions of 336 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:35.240 a lot of different podcasts. So I'll be like, I'm 337 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:37.000 interested in listening to podcasts, but I actually don't like 338 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:38.920 listening to podcasts while I run, And so I'll sort 339 00:15:38.920 --> 00:15:40.240 of like get ten minutes and I'll be like on 340 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:42.320 board with this. But it's not that I don't like them, 341 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:44.200 it's just like I can't I can't focus. 342 00:15:44.280 --> 00:15:46.880 It's a different Yes, yes, it's a different mindset. 343 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:48.960 And then I like, I like a good like Taylor 344 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:49.960 Swift playlist. 345 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:52.640 Yeah, man, I don't know how you guys do tell, 346 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:55.240 but like, are you doing like her more upbeat songs? 347 00:15:55.520 --> 00:15:58.160 If I'm racing, I have a whole elaborate playlist of 348 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:02.200 like loud songs with like Eminem and the Weekend, you know, 349 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:05.040 all the camp Bam bamp paper planes, MI. I A, 350 00:16:05.160 --> 00:16:06.840 I it it's like a whole thing. When I'm just 351 00:16:06.880 --> 00:16:08.960 like running normally. A yeah, I'll listen to just like whatever, 352 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:11.000 Taylor Swift. But I'm not trying to go fast. I'm 353 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:12.560 not trying to like pump Off. I'm just trying to 354 00:16:12.560 --> 00:16:13.240 like chill out. 355 00:16:13.640 --> 00:16:14.920 Have you ever run a marathon? 356 00:16:15.520 --> 00:16:19.680 No, but I am. I am signed up first. Cim, 357 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:23.200 you are in the December December? 358 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:26.760 Oh, how thrilling. That's so exciting. 359 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:30.120 Yeah, I haven't told this is like I mean, he 360 00:16:30.160 --> 00:16:32.560 doesn't listen, so it doesn't matter. But like I haven't 361 00:16:32.640 --> 00:16:35.920 told my husband that yet. I did tell him I 362 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:39.920 was going to California for that weekend because I'm also 363 00:16:39.920 --> 00:16:41.960 giving a talk like at some university, and so I 364 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:43.280 told him I was going to be gone, and I 365 00:16:43.280 --> 00:16:45.520 told them that there was like a race related thing. 366 00:16:46.280 --> 00:16:49.280 But he doesn't know that much about running, and so like, 367 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:51.920 I'm not planning to surface it for a while. 368 00:16:52.040 --> 00:16:54.560 Hey, talk about a great porta potty scene, Cee, I 369 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:56.680 am my best, my best porta potty scene I think 370 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:00.720 I've ever had. Okay, yeah, it's because this the race. 371 00:17:00.760 --> 00:17:03.600 It's so manageable and they have more than enough porta 372 00:17:03.640 --> 00:17:07.240 potties so it's not like all these massively long lines 373 00:17:07.320 --> 00:17:09.919 that are in like soggy grass like I think my 374 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:11.879 friend dropped me off at the start, and I went 375 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:15.000 to the bathroom three times and fifteen minutes and then 376 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:16.159 got on the start. 377 00:17:17.320 --> 00:17:20.440 I can't wait. Okay, good quarter, Okay. 378 00:17:21.560 --> 00:17:26.080 Injury prevention, do you cross train strength train and do 379 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:27.960 you have data to back it up? 380 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:33.200 I mean, I think it's pretty clear that people should 381 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:35.040 strength train. I don't know how much of that has 382 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:37.639 been injury prevention. How much is like just that's helpful 383 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:41.920 for going faster. But I don't do it in a 384 00:17:42.040 --> 00:17:47.159 very reliable manner because it's super boring basically. I mean, 385 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:49.720 I'm just gonna be honest, Like I definitely is supposed 386 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:51.800 to be doing that and doing more stretching, and I 387 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:54.639 just like to go run and I don't like to 388 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:55.560 do other things. 389 00:17:56.040 --> 00:17:59.600 Have you ever had any injuries that have been nagging 390 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:01.360 for where you had to take time off? 391 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:05.000 So I had, I was, I got injured last summer. 392 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:07.480 I have like very bad bunions on my feet, and 393 00:18:07.520 --> 00:18:10.399 so sometimes like with the wrong shoes, then you like 394 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:12.800 overcompensate and then I like had a whole foot thing, 395 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:15.040 which finally I had to like go to pt which 396 00:18:15.080 --> 00:18:16.920 I had never done before. Actually PET is great. I 397 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:20.159 would really recommend people go to PT. I've this is 398 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:22.320 the first they might be hearing of this, so I 399 00:18:22.320 --> 00:18:25.119 would say it's really great and that eventually I fixed. 400 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:27.800 I have this like very long term injury to my 401 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:32.840