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<v Speaker 1>It's like just past ten thirty and the vibe is

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<v Speaker 1>just picking up here at the club and I'm watching

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<v Speaker 1>as people are coming in and it's really a mixture.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in Williston, North Dakota, with Latino USA producer Rinaldo

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<v Speaker 2>leanz J.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got like a lot of Latin American Latina women

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<v Speaker 1>who are coming in.

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<v Speaker 2>We're sitting in a big but cozy booth at a

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant with an interesting name.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called Segnor Egg.

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<v Speaker 2>The restaurant is closed now, They've moved the tables out

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<v Speaker 2>of the way and the space is now turned into

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<v Speaker 2>a club.

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<v Speaker 3>Tonight it's Latino night.

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<v Speaker 2>There was nothing like this in Williston last time, and

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell this place is going to be popping

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<v Speaker 2>at a matter of minutes. I first went to North

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<v Speaker 2>Dakota about a decade ago. I was here reporting on

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<v Speaker 2>the beginnings of the oil boom in the western part

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<v Speaker 2>of the state and its impact on the Fort Berthold Reservation.

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<v Speaker 2>Back then, North Dakota was in the middle of a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of change in terms of latinos and latinas well.

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<v Speaker 2>You might see one here or there, but tonight in Williston,

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of them. I'm looking around this

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant turned club and there are Dominican servers, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>young Mexican DJ, there are couples Latinos with white women,

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<v Speaker 2>a queer couple.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a really interesting vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>The oil boom has lured thousands of Latinos into this

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<v Speaker 2>region in recent years. The owner of this restaurant slash

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<v Speaker 2>disco is David Garcia Ocampo. He's originally from Mexico.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone has to dream. My dream was like to on

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<v Speaker 4>a restaurant. Would it be here? No, it wasn't the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>As a teenager, David lived in Arizona and there worked

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<v Speaker 2>in restaurants. He washed dishes, he cooked, then he was

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<v Speaker 2>a manager. In twenty thirteen, David moved to Williston to

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<v Speaker 2>open a restaurant. He spent several years here in Williston,

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<v Speaker 2>but then he decided he wanted to do something different,

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<v Speaker 2>something on his own, for his community, and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>he opened Seg Your Egg in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 4>Here we serve reafasts, lunch and dinner, so we mixed

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<v Speaker 4>it a little bit Mexican food and American food.

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<v Speaker 2>The Latinos and Latinas that started coming to his restaurant

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<v Speaker 2>told David they wanted a space where they could come

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<v Speaker 2>together and organize events like a Latino Night where dancing

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<v Speaker 2>would be the main thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, all right, let's give it a try,

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<v Speaker 4>like with an advertiser. And that was like Friday or right,

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<v Speaker 4>we decide to do it, Let's do it tomorrow, and

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<v Speaker 4>people show.

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<v Speaker 3>Up like crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a small town. The word is spread out like crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>We go over one hundred people.

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<v Speaker 3>In here and it just grew from there.

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<v Speaker 4>The second time we have like one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 4>people in here. There was a line at the Lore

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<v Speaker 4>people trying to come in tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>David is expecting a pretty good turnout. There's no doubt

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<v Speaker 2>that Latinos and Latinas have changed and are changing the

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<v Speaker 2>face of North Dakota. But living in North Dakota isn't easy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not for the faint of heart. The freezing winters,

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<v Speaker 2>the hard working conditions, the dark, dark nights. So it

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<v Speaker 2>begs the question, why are so many Latinos and Latinas

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<v Speaker 2>coming to North Dakota and how has that growth been received.

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<v Speaker 3>The answer, as always, is complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>From FUTU Media and PRX, It's Latino USA I'm Maria

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<v Speaker 2>jo Josa today.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever since the.

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<v Speaker 2>Oil a look at North Dakota's oil and population and

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<v Speaker 2>the big role Latinos play in both of them.

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<v Speaker 3>This is part one.

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<v Speaker 2>There is some data that sticks with me, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think this piece of data is going to stick with you,

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<v Speaker 2>because North Dakota saw an almost one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>percent growth rate of Latinos and latinas between the years

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty ten and twenty twenty. North Dakota had the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest growth of Latinos in the country and that's according

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<v Speaker 2>to the US Census. And that growth is even bigger

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<v Speaker 2>in Mackenzie County, in the western part of North Dakota,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where producer Renaldo Leanos Junior and I were

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<v Speaker 2>reporting this summer. What's driving this huge Latino population growth

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<v Speaker 2>is an oil boom that started around two thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 2>turning North Dakota into the third biggest oil producer in

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<v Speaker 2>the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to North Dakota, the state the recession, for god.

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<v Speaker 5>The industry came here and the politicians opened the doors

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<v Speaker 5>wide open and said, come on in and you just

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<v Speaker 5>make us rich. And that's what's happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course here in North Dakota, oil touches everything. The

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<v Speaker 2>oil and gas industry has created tens of thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>well paid jobs, and it generates billions of dollars every

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<v Speaker 2>year in North Dakota. But with oil often there comes

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<v Speaker 2>controversy among some communities. The extraction method known as fracking

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<v Speaker 2>is considered deeply destructive, especially among environmentalists and Native American communities,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is land that they've been living on since

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<v Speaker 2>time immemorial.

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<v Speaker 4>Tonight, police moving in forcibly arrest seeing the remaining pipeline

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<v Speaker 4>protesters in North Dakota.

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<v Speaker 6>A US district court on Monday ruled the Dakota Access

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<v Speaker 6>Pipeline must shut down within thirty days.

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<v Speaker 2>So in this episode we take a deeper look at

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<v Speaker 2>the tensions around this all powerful industry. And next week

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to get to know who are the Latinos

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<v Speaker 2>and Latinas driving this demographic shift in North Dakota and

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<v Speaker 2>what challenges they face when trying to build a new

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<v Speaker 2>community here. But first we actually want to talk about politics. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>because the midterms are coming up, but also because during

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<v Speaker 2>our summer reporting in Mackenzie County we noticed a.

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<v Speaker 3>Very clear trend.

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<v Speaker 2>We met a lot of Latinos and Latinas who work

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<v Speaker 2>in the oil and gas industry and who have become

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<v Speaker 2>Republican in recent years. This morning, when we headed out

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<v Speaker 2>of our hotel and the sun was rising and the

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<v Speaker 2>sky was pink.

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<v Speaker 3>And never ending.

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<v Speaker 2>There were a lot of trucks on the road already,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was a kind of quiet. And then when

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<v Speaker 2>we pulled into a kind of nondescript parking lot, pretty

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<v Speaker 2>industrial right in front of us, on a little piece

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<v Speaker 2>of grass, there were bunnies jumping around.

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<v Speaker 3>This city.

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<v Speaker 2>Williston has a population of about thirty two thousand people

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<v Speaker 2>and it's near the northern border of Mackenzie County. I

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<v Speaker 2>first came to Williston a decade ago, and Williston itself

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<v Speaker 2>has changed a lot. It was basically a town that

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<v Speaker 2>there was just one main road with a strip mall,

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<v Speaker 2>series of fast food places and hotels and such. But

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<v Speaker 2>this town has grown and it's played a huge role

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<v Speaker 2>in the oil boom, which means that there are a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of Latinos and Latinas here. And where we are

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<v Speaker 2>this morning is in front of this industrial building. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of nondescript, but we're meeting a young man here.

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<v Speaker 3>His name is Andres Murillo. He's twenty years old.

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<v Speaker 2>He looks a little bit like a slim and much

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<v Speaker 2>younger Michael Moore, and he builds pumps for oil rates.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm from California.

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<v Speaker 8>I was born over there, but I both my parents

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<v Speaker 8>are Mexican.

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<v Speaker 2>Andres moved to North Dakota three years ago when he

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<v Speaker 2>was just seventeen.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, my brother was living here at the time, so

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<v Speaker 8>I moved over here during my last semester of high school.

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<v Speaker 8>And then that's when I went to college right after

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<v Speaker 8>that because they gave me a two year scholarship in

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<v Speaker 8>Williston State College. And then I kind of dropped out

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<v Speaker 8>after that and just kind of jumped from job to job.

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<v Speaker 7>I ended up landing this. I'm pretty fairly easy.

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<v Speaker 3>And it Is, says the money here has been really

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<v Speaker 3>good for him.

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<v Speaker 8>Like, financially, I'm doing well. I don't feel like I've

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<v Speaker 8>been on the verge of not having enough compared to

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<v Speaker 8>back home.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you feel like your parents were always a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit like m it's a little tight.

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<v Speaker 7>It's yeah, definitely, you don't feel that here.

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<v Speaker 8>I've never felt that way compared to when I would

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<v Speaker 8>live back home with my parents, they'd have a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of money, troubles and their business and whatnot. So I

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<v Speaker 8>remember those times, but here it's like it's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>What about the fields? Are you interested in going and

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<v Speaker 2>working in the fields the oil field?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>I actually yeah, I wouldn't mind doing the fields at all.

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<v Speaker 8>I just got to get a little bit of experience

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<v Speaker 8>under my belt before I go ahead and do that.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the attraction to going to work in the fields?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, definitely the money, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you know about the money in the fields.

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<v Speaker 3>What have you heard?

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<v Speaker 7>I've heard people getting paid thirty five an hour and above.

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<v Speaker 8>They'll work two weeks on, two weeks off, and some

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<v Speaker 8>people have said they've gotten a grant a six thousand

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<v Speaker 8>dollars check in just two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's put that into context.

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<v Speaker 2>Workers in the oil extraction business here make over fifty

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<v Speaker 2>seven thousand dollars a year on average. That's almost double

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<v Speaker 2>than food or service workers. And this tells me that

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<v Speaker 2>North Dakota has given him the opportunity to be in

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<v Speaker 2>a good place financially, and that he, like so many others,

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<v Speaker 2>are investing in their futures with this extra cash. And

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<v Speaker 2>then Andres says, North Dakota has also been a place

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<v Speaker 2>where he feels welcomed for his political beliefs.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, when I left California, I became Republican, and I

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<v Speaker 8>kind of switched over from Liberal because I didn't agree

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<v Speaker 8>with most of their ideas. I mean, if you believe

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<v Speaker 8>in what you believe in, then hats off to you.

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<v Speaker 8>Nobody's going to tell you anything. Nobody's going to scream

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<v Speaker 8>at you for your opinion. I haven't met anybody that's

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<v Speaker 8>told me that I'm dumb or that I'm just white

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<v Speaker 8>because of the party that I'm going with.

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<v Speaker 7>Everybody's just been pretty respectful here.

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<v Speaker 3>North Dakota is a predominantly red state.

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<v Speaker 2>According to a Pew Research poll, almost eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>adults in the state identify as Republican or lean Republican.

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<v Speaker 3>How is it that you become a Republican?

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<v Speaker 8>It all started really with the twenty sixteen election. I

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<v Speaker 8>just kind of didn't agree with some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 8>Hillary did. I agreed a little bit more with Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 8>and then over the years I kind of saw what

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<v Speaker 8>he was doing and kind of liked it.

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<v Speaker 2>During the twenty twenty presidential election, sixty five percent of

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<v Speaker 2>North Dakota's voted for Donald J.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump was big on oil, and he wanted the US

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<v Speaker 2>to produce more. He was also pro fracking, a extraction

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<v Speaker 2>method that has made the oil boom in.

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<v Speaker 3>North Dakota possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump made US stop in Fargo, North Dakota in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 9>So in a few moments, I will sign two groundbreaking

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<v Speaker 9>executive owners to continue the revival of the American energy

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<v Speaker 9>industry and jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>During his presidency, Trump rolled back regulations on the oil

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<v Speaker 2>and gas industry and signed executive orders that sped up

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<v Speaker 2>drilling projects across the country. Trump rescinded water pollution regulations

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<v Speaker 2>for fracking on both Native American and federal lands, and

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<v Speaker 2>he limited state's abilities to block oil, gas and other

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<v Speaker 2>energy projects. Things haven't changed much under President Joe Biden either,

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<v Speaker 2>despite his environmental agenda and his push for green energy.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, the Biden administration has surpassed Trump in issuing

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<v Speaker 2>drilling permits on public land. Earlier this year, the administration

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<v Speaker 2>also resumed oil drilling on federal land, something Biden said

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<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't do while he was on the campaign trail.

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<v Speaker 2>But Trump's positions on oil were not the only thing

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<v Speaker 3>To support him.

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<v Speaker 2>So you believe that there should be a wall built

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<v Speaker 2>to keep Mexicans and other Latino and Latino Americans out.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean there should be a process. I feel like it.

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<v Speaker 8>Should be kind of reformed, more so because I have

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<v Speaker 8>seen that legal process not really work. Sometimes it'll take

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<v Speaker 8>years before somebody can even come over from Mexico to

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<v Speaker 8>the US. I feel like that should be reformed. I

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<v Speaker 8>do feel like the wall should be built, but I

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<v Speaker 8>also feel like there could be a difference in how

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<v Speaker 8>people can get their citizenship here could be.

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<v Speaker 7>A lot better.

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<v Speaker 3>Your parents came without papers.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, then they became citizens the wall was built.

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<v Speaker 2>They should not come, is what Basically you're like, Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>if the wall should be there, and the wall should

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<v Speaker 2>keep people like my parents out who came without papers,

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<v Speaker 2>they should not have come.

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of how you feel.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, if they didn't come here, I probably wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 8>gone through the experiences, so legally they shouldn't have come,

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<v Speaker 8>But I mean they ended up coming anyways, so well,

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<v Speaker 8>I might to tell love.

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<v Speaker 3>But you do see the contradiction, right, I do see

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<v Speaker 3>the contradiction there.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is believes that the economy was stronger under

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and he points out that gas prices and inflation

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<v Speaker 2>were lower during his term. He says that if Trump

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<v Speaker 2>were to run again for office, he'd still vote for him.

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<v Speaker 2>He also says he likes Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and

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<v Speaker 2>Latinos like Andres who identify as Republicans.

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<v Speaker 3>Aren't anything new.

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<v Speaker 2>Historically, Republicans have gotten about a third of the Latino

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<v Speaker 2>vote since the nineteen seventies, but there has been a

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<v Speaker 2>shift in recent years arguing that more Latinos are openly

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<v Speaker 2>identifying as Republicans, especially with the rise of Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>and here in North Dakota. A top political issue that

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<v Speaker 2>voters care about a lot is the oil and gas industry.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something they're Republican governors and senators have campaigned on.

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<v Speaker 2>They call for pumping out more oil and natural gas

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<v Speaker 2>and for rolling back those federal regulations.

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<v Speaker 10>The Secretary of State's office protects the security of our elections,

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<v Speaker 10>opens the door to every new business, and leads the

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<v Speaker 10>way in ensuring our natural resources leap a legacy for

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<v Speaker 10>our children and our grandchildren.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the voice of Michael Howe. He's the Republican

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<v Speaker 2>nominee for a Secretary of State for North Dakota, and

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<v Speaker 2>right now he's currently a state representative, but if he

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<v Speaker 2>wins the secretary of State position, he will be the

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<v Speaker 2>one who is deciding about the elections. And like Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>he markets himself as a businessman. How is expected to

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<v Speaker 2>easily win his election this November. The hotel lobby where

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<v Speaker 2>Renaldo Leanos Junior, my producer, and I are staying in

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<v Speaker 2>Central Willisdon it's a little bit empty because it's the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the afternoon here, but in the background they've

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<v Speaker 2>got Fox News twenty four to seven. You see a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of workers around here, a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 2>look like they're involved in the oil business. And in

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<v Speaker 2>fact we're here to meet somebody who's part of that business.

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<v Speaker 2>Her name is Marinac Carrillo. And she pulls out a

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<v Speaker 2>map and she spreads it over a table here, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's well terribly excited to show us what's on this map.

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<v Speaker 11>So all the light that you see on day on

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<v Speaker 11>here are pipelines, but some are by commodity Somasio two.

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<v Speaker 11>Someone's a crew oil gas, hydrocarbon, what are a natural gas?

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<v Speaker 2>Seeing this map was incredibly revealing to me. The map

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<v Speaker 2>displays exactly where different extractions are taking place here in

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<v Speaker 2>North Dakota, and well, it's kind of everywhere. I could

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<v Speaker 2>just look at this for the longest time because it

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<v Speaker 2>really goes to show what is happening mostly underground. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just the part of this land that has not

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<v Speaker 2>been touched by oil. You can find that easier than

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<v Speaker 2>everything else that has been touched by oil because it's

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<v Speaker 2>just covered with like little symbols for some kind of drilling.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is, you don't see what's happening in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the oil because it's happening underground a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, it's estimated that more than sixteen thousand wells

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<v Speaker 2>have been drilled in western North Dakota since the oil

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<v Speaker 11>Where you see more drilling is where the more Hispanics are.

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<v Speaker 2>Mariina is petite, She's got dark black curly hair, with

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<v Speaker 2>a really big smile, and very energetic. She's originally from

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico and she's worked in the oil and gas industry

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<v Speaker 2>for about seven years. And part of Marina's job is

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<v Speaker 2>recruiting people to work in this industry, and most of

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<v Speaker 2>those are Latinos and Latinas.

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<v Speaker 3>But in recent weeks there's been a workforce problem. The

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<v Speaker 3>industry in North.

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<v Speaker 2>Dakota has had trouble recruiting people to work, and this

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<v Speaker 2>has stalled the deploying of more drilling rigs across the state.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is is that oil jobs and demographic

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<v Speaker 2>growth go hand in hand here in North Dakota, and

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<v Speaker 2>Marina is part of this changing landscape. But for us,

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<v Speaker 2>the best place to see this reality playing out is where.

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<v Speaker 3>The oil wells actually are.

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<v Speaker 2>So coming up on Latino USA, we head to the

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<v Speaker 2>rigs with Marina to see how oil and gas are

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<v Speaker 2>extracted and.

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<v Speaker 3>Also who benefits from it.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay with us, notes, Hey, we're back, and when we

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<v Speaker 2>left off, we had just met Marina Carrillo. She's a

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<v Speaker 2>recruiter for the oil and gas industry. She's originally from Chihuahua, Mexico,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's really proud to be working in the oil

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<v Speaker 2>and gas industry. So she's going to take us now

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<v Speaker 2>on what she calls a job's tour in Williston, and

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<v Speaker 2>the plan is for us to see firsthand the many

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<v Speaker 2>layers of the oil and gas industry and all of

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<v Speaker 2>the different jobs. Latinos and Latinas are performing within this sector.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get back to the story. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>gorgeous late afternoon in Williston and the sky is bright blue.

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<v Speaker 2>Producer Renaldos Junior and I find ourselves walking over to

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<v Speaker 2>Maddina's big white four by four pickup truck. I pull

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<v Speaker 2>myself all the way up to the truck and that's

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<v Speaker 2>when we spot something that well, it catches our eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>Boy, you really did like Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>On the floor in the backseat of her truck is

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<v Speaker 2>a big black floor mat. It reads Trump twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>Keep America Great. You're not hiding your politics. Wow, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's very Interestingana who likes Trump?

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<v Speaker 12>See, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure might he not identify as a Republican. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not clear how many Latinos here in North Dakota actually

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<v Speaker 2>identify as Republican, but there has been an increase in

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<v Speaker 2>votes for Republican candidates since two thousand and eight.

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<v Speaker 3>You are unabashedly a Trump supporter, yes, and you have

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<v Speaker 3>no problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Being a Mexican born immigrant Trump supporter.

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<v Speaker 11>No, No, I don't. I don't have a problem with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's all because of his position on.

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<v Speaker 11>Oil, not just that but I'm one of those persons

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<v Speaker 11>that I like things to be said straightforward, and I

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<v Speaker 11>don't like politicians.

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<v Speaker 3>And you don't think that Trump is a politician.

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<v Speaker 11>Not as much. Not as much. He's a business man.

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<v Speaker 2>And you think that that helps you in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>kind of being in the vibe of North Dakota. The

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<v Speaker 2>fact that you're a Trump supporter makes it a little

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<v Speaker 11>Maybe if I would have been another place, I would

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<v Speaker 11>have been more influenced by other ideologies. But I know

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<v Speaker 11>myself as well because my parents were really upset about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So your parents were a little freaked out about the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that you were supporting Trump.

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<v Speaker 12>Is that really yes?

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<v Speaker 11>And so after I told them that just take away

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<v Speaker 11>the feelings and what you actually think of that emotion,

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<v Speaker 11>then you're going to see what I'm seeing. And it

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<v Speaker 11>took them a long time, and now then they understand.

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<v Speaker 2>We're driving along a main road and we pull off

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<v Speaker 2>to the side of the road and there is this

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<v Speaker 2>huge towering rig. The metal rig is over one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>feet tall. It's got men walking around, there's movement. It

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<v Speaker 2>looks big and kind of menacing and kind of hermanent.

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<v Speaker 2>And this rig is set up to drill and look

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<v Speaker 2>for oil. As many as one million barrels of oil

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<v Speaker 2>are being extracted from North Dakota's ground every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>The rig shoots up into the clear blue sky. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's also this pretty consistent soft hum coming from this rig.

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<v Speaker 2>You can hear it in the quiet North Dakota landscape.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's the rig, but there's also portable trailers driving

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<v Speaker 2>up and down this dirt road. Here, there's other machinery.

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<v Speaker 2>There's other equipment scattered around. There's a trailer for the workers.

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<v Speaker 11>So the people there is working, see their hat hats.

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<v Speaker 11>There are the floor hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Marina tells us that companies need to follow government requirements

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<v Speaker 2>and regulations when they want to search and extract oil

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<v Speaker 2>and gas, as well as safety and environmental protocols. Can

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<v Speaker 2>I ask you, so I see several men working, about

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<v Speaker 2>how much are they getting paid?

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<v Speaker 3>Just a roundabout?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I think some depends on the company. But there

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<v Speaker 11>started about toty on. The toties go to after the

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<v Speaker 11>forties or fifties an hour. Most of the companies the

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<v Speaker 11>rotations because they do not stop. They were twenty four

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<v Speaker 11>to seven, meaning they rotate the crews, so they're on

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<v Speaker 11>like two weeks on, two weeks off on that morning

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<v Speaker 11>or night shift, so they were twelve hours. So after

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<v Speaker 11>the forty hours they get paid overtime.

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<v Speaker 3>But before any of this labor intensive work can start,

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<v Speaker 3>companies need to find out who owns the land they

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<v Speaker 3>want to drill on because there's money involved.

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<v Speaker 11>So just by looking at the land, I can't tell

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<v Speaker 3>A private property.

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<v Speaker 2>If someone had to work with these extraction companies, they

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<v Speaker 2>get compensated for the use of their land. They usually

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<v Speaker 2>sign leases and get royalties, sometimes in big amounts. They

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<v Speaker 2>tend to get around twenty percent of the earnings. Those

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<v Speaker 2>who benefit from these deals with oil and gas companies

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<v Speaker 2>can be people who are private owners, but there's also

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<v Speaker 2>the federal and state government, and there are also wells

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<v Speaker 11>I can't just set up a rig wherever I want to.

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<v Speaker 3>So how long do you think this rig has been up?

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<v Speaker 11>I'll say about three four days? What, Yeah, they move

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<v Speaker 11>really fast?

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<v Speaker 2>And how long will it stay up? Marina says it varies.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes a rig will be in use for several days

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<v Speaker 2>or even a couple of weeks. It comes down to

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<v Speaker 2>whether there's in fact oil underground, and if there is,

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<v Speaker 2>how big that reserve is. After the really in the

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<v Speaker 2>rig will be replaced with other machinery to extract the

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<v Speaker 2>oil or natural gas from the ground. This is also

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty short lived process, no longer than just a

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks. So you're gonna tell me that like a

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<v Speaker 2>plot of land which was just kind of grassy, pretty

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<v Speaker 2>North Dakota grass for days, maybe a couple of weeks,

433
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<v Speaker 2>will now be permanently transformed. Yes, because of the oil.

434
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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure there are people who are like, it's

435
00:27:34.280 --> 00:27:37.159
<v Speaker 2>like you're ruining the nature. Look what you're doing. You're coming,

436
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:42.760
<v Speaker 2>You're like arassando, You're putting up you know, barbed wire fences.

437
00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:46.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, you're just changing the whole landscape and you're

438
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:47.760
<v Speaker 3>not even staying long.

439
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<v Speaker 11>Yes, So what that is called the reclamation of the lane.

440
00:27:52.080 --> 00:27:56.200
<v Speaker 11>As a last step, once your cap and once you're

441
00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:00.159
<v Speaker 11>done with the well, you reclaim the lane, meaning it

442
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:04.080
<v Speaker 11>will be exactly or better than what it was. That's

443
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:06.399
<v Speaker 11>the standard is either you leave it as it was

444
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:07.399
<v Speaker 11>or better.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Can I just ask you, is that always true one

446
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.080
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent that the reclamation of the land really leaves

447
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:15.239
<v Speaker 2>it just the way it was?

448
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:20.080
<v Speaker 11>They had to comply with the law, and if they don't,

449
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:22.800
<v Speaker 11>they will close a business or they have a really

450
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<v Speaker 11>big find.

451
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.080
<v Speaker 2>But the science says it's impossible for the land to

452
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:30.880
<v Speaker 2>go back to what it was.

453
00:28:32.600 --> 00:28:34.040
<v Speaker 3>When fracking is involved.

454
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<v Speaker 2>Trees, plants, other vegetation are essentially uprooted, and animals are

455
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<v Speaker 2>impacted too because their natural habitat is destroyed. For example,

456
00:28:44.760 --> 00:28:49.520
<v Speaker 2>it's been documented that bird species that deer and bobcats

457
00:28:49.600 --> 00:28:51.960
<v Speaker 2>have been displaced from the areas where there's.

458
00:28:51.800 --> 00:28:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Fracking that goes on.

459
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<v Speaker 2>The process of fracking involves injecting water, chemicals, and sand

460
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<v Speaker 2>into the earth at super high pressures in order to

461
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:09.840
<v Speaker 2>break the oil or natural gas free from inside the

462
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>deep rocks, and that can contaminate groundwater. It can also

463
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<v Speaker 2>induce earthquakes, and it can expose people to inhaling toxic chemicals.

464
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<v Speaker 2>Some Native American communities have long protested about how the

465
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.920
<v Speaker 2>use of fracking, oil and gas are affecting their land,

466
00:29:31.360 --> 00:29:34.520
<v Speaker 2>and they've led massive movements in recent history that have

467
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:38.479
<v Speaker 2>stopped or paused some big oil development projects, like the

468
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<v Speaker 2>North Dakota Access Pipeline at Standing Rock. I documented this

469
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>historic protest for Latino USA six years ago, and while

470
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<v Speaker 2>I was at Standing Rock, I spoke with Terrahauska.

471
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<v Speaker 3>She's a tribal attorney in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, I never thought that there would be this

473
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<v Speaker 13>coming together of hundreds of indigenous nations against a single pipeline.

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<v Speaker 2>What I saw on the ground at Standing Rock was

475
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<v Speaker 2>a protest movement that was led by Indigenous peoples, but

476
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>there were people from everywhere in the United States that

477
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>were showing up to protest.

478
00:30:13.040 --> 00:30:15.560
<v Speaker 3>And there were Latinos and Latinas there.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to Marina and our tour showing us all of

480
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:30.560
<v Speaker 2>the jobs that are available for Latinos and Latinas to

481
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.320
<v Speaker 2>take in the oil and gas industry, we sit down

482
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<v Speaker 2>now to talk with Marina about the tensions with the

483
00:30:36.800 --> 00:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Native American communities nearby. What do you say to critics

484
00:30:42.320 --> 00:30:45.400
<v Speaker 2>who say, you're just here for the work, you're not

485
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:49.480
<v Speaker 2>thinking about the long term, the long term and the land.

486
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<v Speaker 3>What do you say to them?

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00:30:51.080 --> 00:30:55.080
<v Speaker 11>The majority of them, obviously they care about They care

488
00:30:55.080 --> 00:30:58.160
<v Speaker 11>about the land, and then they care about their future

489
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<v Speaker 11>and what are they going to give to the futuritys

490
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.520
<v Speaker 11>not just around here but around the globe. And obviously

491
00:31:04.560 --> 00:31:08.840
<v Speaker 11>we can all sympathize with that, however, they understand and

492
00:31:09.120 --> 00:31:12.800
<v Speaker 11>they know the need for them to provide for their

493
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:13.600
<v Speaker 11>kids as well.

494
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<v Speaker 2>How do you respond to critics who are Native American

495
00:31:17.760 --> 00:31:20.880
<v Speaker 2>who say, hey, what are you doing?

496
00:31:21.560 --> 00:31:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Too many too fast? And on the other side, you're

497
00:31:26.320 --> 00:31:30.480
<v Speaker 3>depleting Mother Earth. I can't we have to protect her.

498
00:31:30.560 --> 00:31:31.520
<v Speaker 3>So what do you say to that.

499
00:31:32.120 --> 00:31:34.040
<v Speaker 11>I don't know, God or Mother Earth. I don't know.

500
00:31:34.080 --> 00:31:36.200
<v Speaker 11>How do you want to call it? And how the

501
00:31:36.280 --> 00:31:39.400
<v Speaker 11>concentration of the majority of the other reservoir that is

502
00:31:41.120 --> 00:31:44.480
<v Speaker 11>economically fast of all for them to produce it's an

503
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:47.680
<v Speaker 11>that reservation. I found that ironic and I think they're

504
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:48.840
<v Speaker 11>having the last laugh.

505
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Marina has very strong feelings about the oil and gas industry,

506
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:00.800
<v Speaker 2>and then she tells me it's not just about the industry.

507
00:32:01.360 --> 00:32:06.240
<v Speaker 2>There's something very personal about what this place, this moment

508
00:32:06.320 --> 00:32:09.880
<v Speaker 2>in her life represents. She tells me that she lived

509
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:12.560
<v Speaker 2>in Missouri before moving to North Dakota in two thousand

510
00:32:12.560 --> 00:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>and nine with her husband, who she tells me, was

511
00:32:15.840 --> 00:32:20.360
<v Speaker 2>abusive at the time. Marina says it was because of

512
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:24.360
<v Speaker 2>the economic opportunities that she found in North Dakota and

513
00:32:24.560 --> 00:32:28.160
<v Speaker 2>especially in the oil industry, that she was able to

514
00:32:28.280 --> 00:32:33.000
<v Speaker 2>leave her husband, be safe and provide for her three

515
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:34.200
<v Speaker 2>children on her own.

516
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<v Speaker 11>It took me a lot of time, but only because

517
00:32:38.080 --> 00:32:41.560
<v Speaker 11>of North Dakota. It helped me. I get my freedom

518
00:32:41.560 --> 00:32:48.920
<v Speaker 11>in Norvdakota.

519
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:55.080
<v Speaker 2>So for Marina it was essentially about saving her life.

520
00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:00.280
<v Speaker 2>It is very personal and for a lot of peace people,

521
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Latinos and Latinas, they feel that in this state oil

522
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:09.120
<v Speaker 2>and gas is actually an opportunity for a new beginning,

523
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:12.440
<v Speaker 2>as a way to get ahead financially. But at the

524
00:33:12.520 --> 00:33:15.840
<v Speaker 2>same time, the reality is that this industry has a

525
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:20.120
<v Speaker 2>dark side. It has impacted both the environment and Native

526
00:33:20.120 --> 00:33:23.960
<v Speaker 2>American communities who have been here since way before the

527
00:33:24.040 --> 00:33:30.080
<v Speaker 2>oil boom. Ray and I are now in a car

528
00:33:30.280 --> 00:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>driving around with a woman named Lisa Deville. She's an

529
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<v Speaker 2>Indigenous environmental activist and she lives on the Fort Berthole Reservation.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was on this reservation where I visited almost

531
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<v Speaker 2>a decade ago to report on what the oil and

532
00:33:47.800 --> 00:33:51.000
<v Speaker 2>gas industry's effects was having on this land.

533
00:33:52.040 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Speaker 3>What I see now after being away.

534
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:58.520
<v Speaker 2>About a decade is some parts of Fort Berthole have

535
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:03.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of stayed the same, like nothing has changed. And

536
00:34:03.840 --> 00:34:07.480
<v Speaker 2>then there are other parts where I see some sprucing up.

537
00:34:07.600 --> 00:34:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I see some development, I see new housing. I see

538
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:19.200
<v Speaker 2>a large Native American community center. So it's an interesting dynamic.

539
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:20.200
<v Speaker 12>Because I want to show you something.

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa lives here on the Fort Berth Hale Reservation.

541
00:34:26.520 --> 00:34:29.600
<v Speaker 3>About twenty percent of all of.

542
00:34:29.560 --> 00:34:32.320
<v Speaker 2>The oil that's produced in North Dakota comes out of

543
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:36.799
<v Speaker 2>the wells on this reservation, and oil has brought in

544
00:34:37.120 --> 00:34:41.280
<v Speaker 2>about a billion dollars in tax revenue to Native American

545
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:44.960
<v Speaker 2>communities living here since the start of the boom. The

546
00:34:45.080 --> 00:34:49.960
<v Speaker 2>communities that live on this reservation are the man Dan, Hidatsa,

547
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:54.720
<v Speaker 2>and Aricara nations. Here it's known as the three Affiliated

548
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Tribes and there are more than seventeen thousand members. Lisa

549
00:35:00.160 --> 00:35:03.360
<v Speaker 2>and her husband Walter are gonna take us around the

550
00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:06.919
<v Speaker 2>reservation and show us what they say is the environmental

551
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.959
<v Speaker 2>damage that the oil and gas industry is causing here.

552
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:12.719
<v Speaker 12>So this past year, since we've had so much rain,

553
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:13.560
<v Speaker 12>and it's nice to see.

554
00:35:13.600 --> 00:35:13.799
<v Speaker 9>You know.

555
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<v Speaker 2>The thing about the reservation and North Dakota in the

556
00:35:18.640 --> 00:35:22.600
<v Speaker 2>summertime is that there is green as far as the

557
00:35:22.680 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 2>eye can see. This is a flat landscape, but it

558
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:33.840
<v Speaker 2>goes on forever, and that's exactly where Lisa and Walter

559
00:35:34.120 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 2>decide to make a stop. So, Lisa, what does that

560
00:35:37.520 --> 00:35:40.400
<v Speaker 2>represent to you, the fact that you've got this old

561
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:44.160
<v Speaker 2>style rig and now you've got these other modern looking rigs.

562
00:35:44.200 --> 00:35:45.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, some people are going to say, oh,

563
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.680
<v Speaker 3>this is this is progress. What do you see?

564
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:50.960
<v Speaker 12>You know what, no matter what it is, you disturb

565
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:53.480
<v Speaker 12>the earth, no matter do you extract, it's still gonna

566
00:35:53.520 --> 00:35:56.320
<v Speaker 12>do something. I still see environmental destruction.

567
00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:59.680
<v Speaker 2>And yet people from the oil and gas industry will say,

568
00:35:59.680 --> 00:36:03.919
<v Speaker 2>but but look we're changing things. It's less of an

569
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:04.600
<v Speaker 2>eye sore.

570
00:36:05.080 --> 00:36:08.040
<v Speaker 12>Oh, we got the safest way to do it, that's

571
00:36:08.040 --> 00:36:10.160
<v Speaker 12>what they say. Yep, I'm gonna show you this is

572
00:36:10.200 --> 00:36:13.560
<v Speaker 12>a new rig. Right here, we see a bunch of

573
00:36:13.640 --> 00:36:14.359
<v Speaker 12>junk coming off.

574
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:17.880
<v Speaker 2>We pull over on the side of the road and

575
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:21.560
<v Speaker 2>we see some black smoke coming out of this work site.

576
00:36:22.200 --> 00:36:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Lisa talks about how concerned she is about this smoke

577
00:36:25.520 --> 00:36:28.200
<v Speaker 2>and about the flaring, the flames that come out of

578
00:36:28.200 --> 00:36:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the rigs from the natural gas that's burning, because she says,

579
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:35.680
<v Speaker 2>they pollute the air and they can cause respiratory issues.

580
00:36:36.040 --> 00:36:38.400
<v Speaker 12>It's been going on for the past twelve years and

581
00:36:38.600 --> 00:36:41.959
<v Speaker 12>without regulations, without you know, making sure that we're holding

582
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:45.000
<v Speaker 12>industry accountable. Industry has more of voice than our own

583
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:45.520
<v Speaker 12>people have.

584
00:36:45.560 --> 00:36:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Here, Lisa says MANDAREI. This town here is a tight

585
00:36:49.640 --> 00:36:53.239
<v Speaker 2>knit community of about seven hundred people. There's a gas

586
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:57.320
<v Speaker 2>station in town, there's a school, there's a small community center.

587
00:36:58.120 --> 00:37:03.560
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty much it in this town, although it's surrounded

588
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:08.160
<v Speaker 2>by nature. Lisa tells us that she's fed up with

589
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:12.240
<v Speaker 2>the environmental destruction happening around her community, and she says

590
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 2>the current tribal chairman, Mark N. Fox is part of

591
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:20.080
<v Speaker 2>the problem. He's been the chairman since twenty fourteen.

592
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.279
<v Speaker 12>What he's doing is oil is everything. Oil and gas

593
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:26.200
<v Speaker 12>is everything. Oil is cuts in red tape. You know,

594
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:30.319
<v Speaker 12>will be all right now, understanding that really that what

595
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.600
<v Speaker 12>we do today. Our children are left with it and

596
00:37:32.600 --> 00:37:34.799
<v Speaker 12>more affected everybody downstream.

597
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:38.520
<v Speaker 2>We reached out to Mark Fox for common but did

598
00:37:38.520 --> 00:37:43.480
<v Speaker 2>not hear back. Before Mark Fox, the chairman in charge

599
00:37:43.520 --> 00:37:47.279
<v Speaker 2>of the Fort Berth Hole Reservation was Tex Hall. I

600
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:49.920
<v Speaker 2>met Tex Hall about a decade ago when I was

601
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:53.360
<v Speaker 2>here reporting for my PBS show called America by the Numbers.

602
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:56.799
<v Speaker 2>Tex was also a big supporter of the oil and

603
00:37:56.840 --> 00:38:00.399
<v Speaker 2>gas industry. This is from when I spoke to tex

604
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Hall for my documentary in the year twenty fourteen.

605
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:10.040
<v Speaker 5>Our land has been stole, treaty has broken. We had alcoholism, unemployment, poverty.

606
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:12.960
<v Speaker 5>We've had some bad things in our past. Now we

607
00:38:13.040 --> 00:38:15.360
<v Speaker 5>got another chance to creators, give us a blessing.

608
00:38:17.080 --> 00:38:20.120
<v Speaker 2>More than twelve hundred wells are pumping over two hundred

609
00:38:20.160 --> 00:38:23.880
<v Speaker 2>and ninety five thousand barrels of oil per day, almost

610
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:28.240
<v Speaker 2>a third of North Dakota's total production. Four years ago,

611
00:38:28.520 --> 00:38:31.280
<v Speaker 2>the tribe was one hundred and twenty five million dollars

612
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:34.440
<v Speaker 2>in debt. Today, with the money received from its wells,

613
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:39.640
<v Speaker 2>the tribe is debt free. Shortly after my visit those

614
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 2>years ago, tex Hall was put under an investigation by

615
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:46.520
<v Speaker 2>the tribal council and he lost his reelection bid for

616
00:38:46.640 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 2>tribal chairmen. Lisa has been raising awareness of the dangers

617
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:54.799
<v Speaker 2>of fracking for a while now. She's written off eds,

618
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:58.040
<v Speaker 2>she's spoken on panels, and she ran for local office

619
00:38:58.080 --> 00:39:00.880
<v Speaker 2>on the state level of North Dakota back in twenty twenty.

620
00:39:01.520 --> 00:39:06.400
<v Speaker 3>She lost. Her Republican challenger won almost seventy percent of

621
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:08.960
<v Speaker 3>the vote.

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00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:13.120
<v Speaker 12>We used to be able to come down here. Pick

623
00:39:13.200 --> 00:39:16.400
<v Speaker 12>Jewnberry's plums choke. Jerry's used to do all that, all

624
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:18.640
<v Speaker 12>the way through my grandmother's land on this side, all

625
00:39:18.640 --> 00:39:20.560
<v Speaker 12>the way through my husband's lane on the other side.

626
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.680
<v Speaker 2>We stand and survey the land that goes on forever,

627
00:39:25.040 --> 00:39:31.200
<v Speaker 2>the different colored grasses, and Lisa talks about growing up

628
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:34.120
<v Speaker 2>with this land, taking care of it, being fed by it.

629
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.600
<v Speaker 2>She talks about the memories of those times that she

630
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:41.040
<v Speaker 2>spent out here with her grandmother. When you say that

631
00:39:41.080 --> 00:39:43.160
<v Speaker 2>you used to be able to pick everywhere is it?

632
00:39:43.160 --> 00:39:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Are you saying that you can't do that now?

633
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:45.920
<v Speaker 7>Who heart?

634
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:48.680
<v Speaker 12>It's hard to find. Yeah, a lot of it's hard

635
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:50.480
<v Speaker 12>to find. It's not like how it used to be.

636
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:52.600
<v Speaker 12>Plums used to just go and pick them right off

637
00:39:52.600 --> 00:39:53.840
<v Speaker 12>the tree. Can't do that anymore.

638
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:54.640
<v Speaker 3>She says.

639
00:39:54.640 --> 00:39:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Her grandmother used to tell her that one day people

640
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.800
<v Speaker 2>would come onto their land and destroy.

641
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:02.719
<v Speaker 12>And my grandmother's told me that this was going to

642
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:05.040
<v Speaker 12>be here one time. If you don't get your education,

643
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:07.799
<v Speaker 12>you're not going to know what it is that you're

644
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:09.080
<v Speaker 12>signing or what you're reading.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's exactly what happened to Lisa's grandmother. Lisa says

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<v Speaker 2>people from an oil company showed up at her grandmother's

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<v Speaker 2>door back in two thousand and eight. They promised her

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<v Speaker 2>money and all she had to do was sign elise

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<v Speaker 2>that would allow the company to be on her land

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<v Speaker 2>for a while to extract natural resources. Lisa says there

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<v Speaker 2>were no lawyers present, just her grandmother and oil representatives,

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<v Speaker 2>so she wasn't fully aware of what she was signing.

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa says her grandmother struggled with what to do, but

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<v Speaker 2>she ultimately signed because she hoped the money might help

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<v Speaker 2>her family, and it did. Lisa says this happened across

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<v Speaker 2>the reservation and many people signed because they wanted to

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00:40:52.520 --> 00:40:56.720
<v Speaker 2>better their economic prospects for generations to come. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa and her husband Walter also lead some of their

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<v Speaker 2>land to the oil and gas industry, and they also

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<v Speaker 2>get paid for that. We're making our way down the

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00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:14.880
<v Speaker 2>road and then we passed by something that really stands

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00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:20.200
<v Speaker 2>out here on the reservation. It's a massive, new, big,

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00:41:20.560 --> 00:41:25.520
<v Speaker 2>two story building, I mean big, and it's filled covered

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<v Speaker 2>with glass windows.

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<v Speaker 3>It opened earlier this year. It's a school.

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<v Speaker 2>And then a little ways down the road we pass

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<v Speaker 2>a firehouse that was built last year, also big, bright

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00:41:38.120 --> 00:41:38.680
<v Speaker 2>and new.

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<v Speaker 12>Everybody wanted a fire hall. You know, that was the

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<v Speaker 12>most important need here in Mandaree. Because of that, we

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<v Speaker 12>were having all these fires from oil and gas, and

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<v Speaker 12>it was taking a whole hour and a half for

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<v Speaker 12>them to get to the fire from like thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 12>away all the surrounding communities.

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<v Speaker 2>The community wanted the fire station because last year an

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00:41:58.080 --> 00:42:01.239
<v Speaker 2>oil site caught on fire and it burned down more

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00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:05.719
<v Speaker 2>than eight hundred acres on the reservation. We keep on

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<v Speaker 2>going and just down the road, Lisa and her husband

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<v Speaker 2>Walter pull over again, this time to point out something

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<v Speaker 2>in the distance.

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00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:18.040
<v Speaker 12>See how cools Thist pipeline is to those families.

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<v Speaker 2>About one hundred feet away from a mobile home is

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<v Speaker 2>an oil pipeline that she says is just way too

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00:42:26.520 --> 00:42:29.960
<v Speaker 2>close to the family's homes. Lisa worries that a pipeline

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00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:33.719
<v Speaker 2>could explode or leak at any moment. In fact, there

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<v Speaker 2>have been several crude oil spills just this year.

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<v Speaker 12>That's how cools are. People are living to these pipelines.

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<v Speaker 12>Our pipelines here are like the bloodveins of Mother Earth.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean it's really really terrible. I mean they're putting

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<v Speaker 12>them anywhere and everywhere. So we got to worry about

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<v Speaker 12>the contamination of al kafers all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa says, for her community of Mandan people, water is life, Kah.

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<v Speaker 12>Water sacred, use it for everything. When you're when you're

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<v Speaker 12>in your mother's womb, that's what you're in water. So

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, where are we going wrong? It's because money

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00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:12.120
<v Speaker 12>is replacing our identity.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up on Latino, USA, we continue our toxic tour

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<v Speaker 2>with Lisa and we hear about how she's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>bring change to her community.

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<v Speaker 3>Stay with us, yes.

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<v Speaker 5>M.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Before the break, we met up with Lisa Deville, an

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<v Speaker 2>indigenous environmental activist. She's taking us around the Fort Berthole

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<v Speaker 2>Reservation to see some of the environmental impact that the

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<v Speaker 2>oil and gas industry is having on her community.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's get back to the story.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in Lisa and her husband, Walter's pickup truck, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're driving slowly through the reservation, just taking in all

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<v Speaker 2>of the amazing nature. It feels like right now there's

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<v Speaker 2>a tremendous amount of abundance. When I was here a

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00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:51.320
<v Speaker 2>decade ago, it was November, it was brown, it was cold.

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00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.960
<v Speaker 2>There's so much green right now, and I'm wondering how

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<v Speaker 2>you put together.

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00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:01.759
<v Speaker 3>The notion of this abundant.

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00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Nature that you're looking at, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, my goodness, there's the oil rig.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Walter points out that some of the plants that we're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at are actually medicinal plants.

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<v Speaker 14>Some say, you know, well, our medicines are contaminated, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>but we still use them, you know, to help ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're on the reservation, you understand how deeply people

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00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 2>feel connected to the nature all around them because sage plants,

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00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:38.880
<v Speaker 2>sweet grass, peppermint, all of this. They're important to Lisa

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<v Speaker 2>Walter's community because they are part of their culture and

727
00:45:43.040 --> 00:45:44.000
<v Speaker 2>their traditions.

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<v Speaker 3>They use them in cleansinges and in ceremonies.

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00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:50.920
<v Speaker 14>You know, when somebody asks, you know, for prayers or whatnot.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, we we try to do the best we

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<v Speaker 14>can with what we have.

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<v Speaker 3>There's also a lot of livestock.

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<v Speaker 2>Everywhere you look, like, there's like what fifty cows were there,

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<v Speaker 2>and a stone's throw literally i don't know, three four

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00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:12.719
<v Speaker 2>or five blocks along with right, there's a flare, there's towers,

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00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:16.840
<v Speaker 2>there's drilling, and it's just like, ah, they're drinking water.

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<v Speaker 2>A stone's throw, you know. I mean, you just have

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<v Speaker 2>to ask the question, right.

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<v Speaker 12>Because every flare, with every league, with every venting, we

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00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:29.359
<v Speaker 12>are contributing to climate change and global warming. And that's

741
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:35.040
<v Speaker 12>the reason why we're having more severe weather activity. I mean,

742
00:46:35.160 --> 00:46:38.560
<v Speaker 12>the flooding all around and the severe heat. I mean,

743
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<v Speaker 12>I keep saying that to my travel with my consul.

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00:46:41.520 --> 00:46:44.960
<v Speaker 12>You know, we're adding more and our earth is burning up.

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00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:48.759
<v Speaker 2>The oil and gas industry itself, as well as all

746
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:52.000
<v Speaker 2>of the gases that come out of our cars and

747
00:46:52.120 --> 00:46:55.680
<v Speaker 2>factories and so many other places, account for more than

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00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:59.960
<v Speaker 2>forty percent of greenhouse gas emissions on a global scale.

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<v Speaker 2>The United States is the second biggest polluter in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>second only to China. Lisa says that in addition to

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00:47:10.120 --> 00:47:14.160
<v Speaker 2>the environmental concerns she has, there are other problems that

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00:47:14.200 --> 00:47:16.880
<v Speaker 2>have popped up with the oil boom. That same morning,

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<v Speaker 2>right before we met her, she had just come back

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00:47:20.200 --> 00:47:21.080
<v Speaker 2>from a funeral.

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<v Speaker 12>My son's one of his good friends. They played basketball together,

756
00:47:25.160 --> 00:47:27.839
<v Speaker 12>they all grew up together. But here he overdosed.

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<v Speaker 13>Yep.

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00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:37.200
<v Speaker 12>Then we just buried my niece Wednesday. She overdosed and

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00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.839
<v Speaker 12>Bismarck and he overdosed in Mina. So no matter where

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00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:42.120
<v Speaker 12>you go, it's here.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was here a decade ago or so, the

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<v Speaker 2>problem with overdoses were with people shooting heroin cocaine overdoses.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a very specific kind of drug because there

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of cash suddenly on the reservation and

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00:48:00.560 --> 00:48:03.719
<v Speaker 2>narcos knew and saw a market they wanted to take

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00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:07.319
<v Speaker 2>advantage of. But now what's happened on the reservation, Like

767
00:48:07.560 --> 00:48:11.000
<v Speaker 2>in the rest of the country, they're battling an opioid

768
00:48:11.080 --> 00:48:15.440
<v Speaker 2>epidemic in this community. But for Lisa, it all started

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00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:18.959
<v Speaker 2>with what I remember seeing those years ago.

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<v Speaker 12>I noticed that a lot of man camps coming in

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<v Speaker 12>and you know, more people, more issues, you know, more drugs,

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00:48:26.640 --> 00:48:31.880
<v Speaker 12>more alcoholism, prostitution, trafficking and what comes with oil and gas,

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00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:32.960
<v Speaker 12>more money, more problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, among those who came to North Dakota to work

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00:48:38.040 --> 00:48:42.960
<v Speaker 2>in those years were more and more Latinos and Latinas.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I was here ten years ago, you could

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<v Speaker 2>see the Latinos Mexicans the work. You know, what do

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00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:57.160
<v Speaker 2>you see now on the reservation and their role as

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<v Speaker 2>workers in the oil business.

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<v Speaker 12>You know what I see a lot of them, the manual,

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00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:06.200
<v Speaker 12>hard labor, people like, but I never see a lot

782
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:09.919
<v Speaker 12>of them in the executive I see a lot of

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<v Speaker 12>the white people in that power. That's what I see anyways.

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00:49:15.680 --> 00:49:20.160
<v Speaker 12>But still the challenging, most challenging thing is that seeing

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00:49:23.080 --> 00:49:29.319
<v Speaker 12>the invasion of people coming in that don't understand how

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00:49:29.560 --> 00:49:32.280
<v Speaker 12>we're connected to land and what this land means to us.

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00:49:32.680 --> 00:49:37.359
<v Speaker 2>So you don't look at Latinos coming and doing the

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00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:43.200
<v Speaker 2>oil work here as necessarily a part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 12>You know what, LEM say this, they're here to work,

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00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:50.520
<v Speaker 12>and I know that's what they're only here for. And

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<v Speaker 12>so anyone that comes here because of oil, that's only

792
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:56.000
<v Speaker 12>what they're here for. Do they care about the land?

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<v Speaker 12>I think about this about everybody that comes here. Do

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00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:00.960
<v Speaker 12>they care about the land? So iata who comes here

795
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:04.520
<v Speaker 12>is all about the money, not sitting down and understanding

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<v Speaker 12>why this land is important.

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<v Speaker 2>To So for you, anybody who is in the rush

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<v Speaker 2>to come right now into North Dakota for you, essentially

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<v Speaker 2>all of them are a little bit suspect. Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there are good people who want to come and

801
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<v Speaker 2>do activism and help you, and so you see them

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00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:29.920
<v Speaker 2>as allies. But everybody else who's coming to make money

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<v Speaker 2>with this oil rush, You're like, we're not on the

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<v Speaker 2>same page.

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<v Speaker 12>While you know, I do get along with everybody, and

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<v Speaker 12>I know that everyone has to make a living, especially

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<v Speaker 12>in today's world because of the inflation and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it seems like you're saying, Okay, we understand you

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<v Speaker 2>want to make money, but see that we want to

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<v Speaker 2>be protected. Yes, and you're not even willing to spend

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<v Speaker 2>the money to even see if you're protected at the

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<v Speaker 2>basic level.

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, that's what it all comes down to, is whole

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<v Speaker 12>industry accountable and protecting the only land that we have left.

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<v Speaker 2>We are winding up our afternoon on the reservation. Lisa

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<v Speaker 2>and her husband Walter know the final spot that they

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<v Speaker 2>want to take us on this toxic tour.

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<v Speaker 12>You want to go on her?

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00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:23.839
<v Speaker 3>Do you want to go down there?

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00:51:25.160 --> 00:51:30.279
<v Speaker 2>We park and there's a hill that's very steep and

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<v Speaker 2>it goes down very quickly, and I need to go

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00:51:34.200 --> 00:51:37.960
<v Speaker 2>change my shoes because now I realize I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>go down that hill with my producer Ray following Lisa.

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<v Speaker 7>So right now where we headed, Right now.

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<v Speaker 12>Right now, we're on a location of where the one

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<v Speaker 12>million gallon Bryant's will happen back in twenty fourteen and

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<v Speaker 12>where the where it's spilled is down this hill here.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things people here fear the most is

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<v Speaker 2>a leak, a pipeline leak. In fact, there was a

830
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<v Speaker 2>leak of more than a million gallons of salt water

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<v Speaker 2>while they were drilling here. It destroyed any vegetation that

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<v Speaker 2>it touched, and the clean up effort took weeks. We're

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<v Speaker 2>walking down this rocky path, trying to not lose our balance,

834
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<v Speaker 2>trying to get to the foot of the hill. All

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<v Speaker 2>we see around us are green trees and anything. If

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<v Speaker 2>you miss a step here, you're gonna go tumbling down.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a beautiful, but you know, precarious hike. But

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa really wants us to see the lasting damage that

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<v Speaker 2>can happen from a brine spill. She tells us about

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<v Speaker 2>how she first learned about the spill.

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<v Speaker 12>That day, I got a phone call from one of

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<v Speaker 12>my friends. She said, I don't know, but something's going

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00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:55.640
<v Speaker 12>on back here. She said her. All those trees right

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<v Speaker 12>there were all brown. So you like that tree back

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00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:04.040
<v Speaker 12>there looks brown, Yeah, that's kind of like how it was.

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<v Speaker 12>But when they chopped them down, you could see how

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<v Speaker 12>the the tree was dying. It was dying from the

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<v Speaker 12>all side.

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<v Speaker 2>In immediately to our left, we can spot a row

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<v Speaker 2>of brown trees, trees that absorbed some of that brine.

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<v Speaker 2>You have all of this green, all of this green,

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<v Speaker 2>all of this green, and then right here you start seeing, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a dead tree. That's a dead tree. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>dead tree. That's a dead tree. And there's like a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of dead trees.

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<v Speaker 12>And when all the way down it but along this

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<v Speaker 12>a little stream that comes down just right around the bin.

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<v Speaker 12>Here is our intake. We would get our drinking water.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time of the spill, one of the main

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<v Speaker 2>concerns was whether or not the brine had reached the

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<v Speaker 2>nearby lake, because the lake provides drinking water for communities

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<v Speaker 2>all around. Two days after the spill, the Environmental Protection

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<v Speaker 2>Agency said that there was no confirmed reports of contaminated water,

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<v Speaker 2>but Lisa says the damage left behind is still evident

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<v Speaker 2>by these dead trees and some of the dead vegetation,

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<v Speaker 2>and she says it's been eight years already. Lisa also

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<v Speaker 2>brings up that a spill like this can literally happen

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere else on the reservation, and that worries her. Lisa says,

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<v Speaker 2>seeing the evidence of the environmental damage all around her

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<v Speaker 2>is what keeps her going. So after all of these years,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why she's decided she's going to run for office again.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're doing a lot of this activism, you're centering

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<v Speaker 2>the earth, but you're also centering democracy and politics.

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<v Speaker 3>You're running for office. So what do you see for

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<v Speaker 3>the future in this area.

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<v Speaker 12>I want to make sure that our environment's protected. I'm

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<v Speaker 12>hoping we have more Indigenous people at the legislation or

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<v Speaker 12>at every level of government.

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<v Speaker 2>And in terms of the kind of demographics of North Dakota,

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<v Speaker 2>where the Latino Latina population has grown triple digits, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you see them in what's the future of your state?

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<v Speaker 12>I don't know. Are they here to stay?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 12>I don't know if they're here to stay. They're here,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, because of the oil, and that's what I

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<v Speaker 12>see a whole lot of And I hear a lot

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<v Speaker 12>of that that they're like, they're like us, but we

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<v Speaker 12>don't actually get to sit down and visit with them.

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<v Speaker 12>But I wouldn't mind working with them. I wouldn't mind

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<v Speaker 12>working with all people.

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa raises a pretty important and central question. Are Latinos

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<v Speaker 2>and Latina's planning to stay in North Dakota, and well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a difficult question.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no real easy answer.

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<v Speaker 2>What we do know is that the oil industry offers

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<v Speaker 2>well paid jobs. It offers an opportunity to build a

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<v Speaker 2>better future. It's also a place where conservative Latinos say

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<v Speaker 2>they feel welcome. But working in the oil and gas

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<v Speaker 2>industry is hard. The winters here are frigid, to say

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<v Speaker 2>the least, so some Latinos, like Miguel Castillo Perees say

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<v Speaker 2>they can't actually wait to leave.

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<v Speaker 3>Sadly, he says, the industry, though, feels like a.

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<v Speaker 4>Trap trasi famental requs.

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<v Speaker 2>But other Latinos are calling North Dakota home and they're

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<v Speaker 2>committed to becoming a part of the social fabric of

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<v Speaker 2>this state that's growing at the fastest pace in the

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<v Speaker 2>entire country. Latinas like Yolanda Rojas Sorry.

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<v Speaker 13>After story, I would hear people say I'm just here

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<v Speaker 13>for work because this isn't home. So then I started

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<v Speaker 13>asking why is this not home? Why can't they call

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<v Speaker 13>Watford City home?

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<v Speaker 7>It's my home. I love it here.

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<v Speaker 13>I've discovered a beauty, it's peaceful place.

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<v Speaker 2>Next week on our show, we'll meet some of the

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<v Speaker 2>Latinos and Latinas who are changing North Dakota. Stay tuned

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<v Speaker 2>for part two of our reporting next week. This episode

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<v Speaker 2>was produced by Rinaldo Leo Junior and edited by Marta Martinez.

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<v Speaker 3>It was mixed by Rosa Nacaban.

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<v Speaker 2>Research and fact checking for this episode by Elizabeth Lental Dorris.

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<v Speaker 2>The Latino USA team includes Andrea Lopez Cruzado, Daisy Contreras,

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<v Speaker 2>Sergeant Julieta Martinelli, Victoria Stradra, Alejandra Salasad, Patricia Sulbaran, and

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<v Speaker 2>Julia Rocha, with help from Rau Perez.

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<v Speaker 3>Our editorial director is Fernande Santos. Our director of engineering

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<v Speaker 3>is Stephanie Lebau. Our senior engineer is Julia Caruso.

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<v Speaker 2>Our associate engineers are Gabriel Lebias and jj Carubin.

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<v Speaker 3>Our marketing manager is Luis Lunar.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to all of our Latino USA podcast episodes on

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your host and executive producer Maria no Posa. Join

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<v Speaker 2>us again on our next episode. In the meantime, look

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<v Speaker 2>for us on your social media and remember no debayes.

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<v Speaker 6>Chao Latino USA is made possible in part by the

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<v Speaker 6>John D. And Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, the Ford Foundation,

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<v Speaker 6>working with visionaries on the front lines of social change worldwide,

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<v Speaker 6>and Hispanics in philanthropy.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, fifty cows. Oh my god, I'm so New York.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen fifty cows.

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<v Speaker 6>Not in Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's bring fifty cows to Manhattan. Fifty cows to Manhattan,

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<v Speaker 3>all right,