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<v Speaker 1>Part of what is wrong right now with what is

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<v Speaker 1>happening in our country is there is some perverse kind

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<v Speaker 1>of suggestion that the strength of a leader is measured

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<v Speaker 1>based on who you beat down instead of who you

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<v Speaker 1>lift up.

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<v Speaker 2>From Putro Media and PRX. It's Latino USA. I'm Mariao

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<v Speaker 2>Hoosa Today, Kamala Harris, we revisit my one on one

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<v Speaker 2>interview with the VP, the presumptive presidential nominee for the

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic Party. Dear Latino USA listener, Well, the last few

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<v Speaker 2>weeks in US politics have been quite a worldwin, to

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<v Speaker 2>say the least, from President Joe Biden's disappointing debate performance

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<v Speaker 2>against Donald Trump in late June.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now as we speak, there is a deep, a wide,

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<v Speaker 3>and a very aggressive panic in the Democratic.

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<v Speaker 2>Party to the assassination attempt against former President Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>Had new details tonight on the suspect here, sources now

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<v Speaker 4>telling ABC News that he looked up Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>To the mounting calls asking for President Biden to step

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<v Speaker 2>down as a candidate.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got up to twenty House Democrats now calling for

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<v Speaker 3>the president to step aside two out of three voters

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<v Speaker 3>according to a lot of both Democratic voters.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we reached a major flashpoint. On Sunday afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>of July twenty, first.

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<v Speaker 5>President Biden has just announced that he is ending his

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<v Speaker 5>reelection bid. Just moments ago, the President tweeted out, it

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<v Speaker 5>has been the greatest honor of my life to serve

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<v Speaker 5>as your president.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it has been now a presidential candidate stepping out

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<v Speaker 2>so close to an election is something that hasn't happened

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<v Speaker 2>since nineteen sixty eight, when then President Lyndon me Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>said he would not seek reelection. President Biden has endorsed

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<v Speaker 2>Vice President Kamala Harris to take his place at this

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<v Speaker 2>November's presidential election.

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<v Speaker 6>We loved in jail, We really do. They truly are

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<v Speaker 6>like family to n and we did.

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<v Speaker 7>Everybody hear that.

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<v Speaker 5>Tool.

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<v Speaker 6>I know you're still there.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going anywhere, Joe.

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<v Speaker 6>I love you, Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>At fifty nine years old, Harris has often called herself

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<v Speaker 2>a child of the civil rights movement, and that's because

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<v Speaker 2>she attended protests with her family when she was just

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<v Speaker 2>a toddler. She's also known as the first of many.

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<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and four, she became the first woman

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<v Speaker 2>district attorney in San Francisco and the first black person

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<v Speaker 2>and first South Asian woman in all of California to

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<v Speaker 2>hold that office. In twenty ten, Harris became the Attorney

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<v Speaker 2>General for her home state of California, becoming the first

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<v Speaker 2>woman in the state to do so. And when in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventeen, Harris was sworn in as a United States Senator,

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<v Speaker 2>she became the first South Asian person and only the

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<v Speaker 2>second black woman to achieve that. In twenty nineteen, then

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Harris competed to become the Democratic presidential nominee, but

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<v Speaker 2>after a lackluster performance, she dropped out. Then, when Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden became the nominee, he asked her to be his

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<v Speaker 2>running mate, and the two won the twenty twenty election

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<v Speaker 2>with the support of more than eighty one million votes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Vice President Harris is bound to make history again

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<v Speaker 2>if she officially becomes the Democratic presidential nominee and ends

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<v Speaker 2>up defeating Donald Trump. Within twenty four hours of President

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<v Speaker 2>Biden's historic announcement, Harris raised a record eighty one million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars for her campaign. Latino, a grassroots organization, pledged forty

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<v Speaker 2>four million dollars. The Vice President also started to rake

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<v Speaker 2>in endorsements and has already secured enough delegates to become

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<v Speaker 2>her party's nominee, but what about the voters? So we

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<v Speaker 2>hear at Latino USA. Decided to reach out to you,

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<v Speaker 2>dear listeners to hear what you had to say, and

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<v Speaker 2>we got responses from Connecticut, Pennsylvania, California, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>and New York City. So let's take a listen to

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<v Speaker 2>what you had to say.

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<v Speaker 7>I do feel relief in having Biden decide not to

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<v Speaker 7>continue running for presidents, although I am extraordinarily worried about

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<v Speaker 7>people inside his administration.

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<v Speaker 8>Who concealed his cognitive issues.

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<v Speaker 7>Not really a Kamala fans, but I do believe it's

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<v Speaker 7>better than voting for Trump. I want to see if

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<v Speaker 7>the patriarchy of the United States is actually going to

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<v Speaker 7>finally vote for a woman.

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<v Speaker 9>I am very happy that mister Biden stepped away. My

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<v Speaker 9>only trouble with Kamala is that I wish that it

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<v Speaker 9>had been under other circumstances, because otherwise she feels absolutely

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<v Speaker 9>imposed by Biden. Yes, I am proud of being a woman,

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<v Speaker 9>but that is not enough. I need to hear how

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<v Speaker 9>are you different from Trump? What is the plan with

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<v Speaker 9>a nation I mean, I hope that Kamala, because she

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<v Speaker 9>is an incredibly smart woman, shows us what a president

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<v Speaker 10>As someone whose grandparents came to this country from Mexico,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm very excited that Vice President Harris is now the

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<v Speaker 10>candidate you see in Mexico, a woman as president. I

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<v Speaker 10>can't that happened here in the US.

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<v Speaker 11>As a woman from the Islands, as a mother of

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<v Speaker 11>African American trojan Also, I am so proud of her,

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<v Speaker 11>and this just gives me more enthusiastm to vote. And

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<v Speaker 11>I tell my grandchildren who are at the age of voting,

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<v Speaker 11>that you must vote her in because she is a

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<v Speaker 11>positive force for all people.

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<v Speaker 8>The fact that Kamala is a woman of color, she's

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<v Speaker 8>a feminist, he believes in the human rights for everyone.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm glad to be voting for her, donating and volunteering

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<v Speaker 8>for her campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>I was planning on voting for Joe Biden. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't super thrilled, but it was going against you know, Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just do not agree with anything that he

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<v Speaker 3>has said and anything that he believes in. But after

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<v Speaker 3>the announcement, I suddenly became very excited and what a

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<v Speaker 3>hairs presidency could look like she's just nothing like any

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<v Speaker 3>other president we've seen before, all of the barriers that

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<v Speaker 3>she's had to overcome. That is also very inspiring, and

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<v Speaker 3>the nod to like the American dream.

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<v Speaker 12>The nomination of Kamala Harris definitely makes me very happy

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<v Speaker 12>and I'm definitely going to vote for her. Before that,

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<v Speaker 12>I was even hesitant to vote for Biden as a

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<v Speaker 12>protest for his actions in Zaza, and I just feel

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<v Speaker 12>excitement again.

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<v Speaker 13>While Kamala Harris has an opportunity to really inspire our generation,

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<v Speaker 13>it is yet to be seen if she will take

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<v Speaker 13>a serious position and what her vision for our peace

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<v Speaker 13>and security will be, starting with continuing to ignore and

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<v Speaker 13>be complicit in abuses of power like we've seen overseas

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<v Speaker 13>and like we continue to see at home by the

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<v Speaker 13>same police and surveillance apparatus.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm happy that Biden is stepping down, but my fears

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<v Speaker 5>for this election haven't necessarily gone away. Knowing Kamala has

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<v Speaker 5>stepped in, it still kind of feels like I just

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<v Speaker 5>have to vote to make sure Trump doesn't win, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not necessarily voting for someone that I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>represents me or will protect the communities I care about.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel excited about the election, and I wasn't feeling

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<v Speaker 6>it before.

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<v Speaker 14>She's invigorating, you know, you could just see the spark

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<v Speaker 14>in her eye.

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<v Speaker 9>I think it's a promising thing and you've got God,

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<v Speaker 9>Please God let her win.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to thank all of you for taking the

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<v Speaker 2>time to call in now, dear listener, wherever you might

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<v Speaker 2>stand on your views of Vice President Kamala Harris as

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<v Speaker 2>a potential candidate, we thought it was important to revisit

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<v Speaker 2>my one on one interview with the VP. It's actually

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<v Speaker 2>how we kicked off our ongoing political coverage, which we've

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<v Speaker 2>called the Latino Factor How we Vote. Last September, myself

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<v Speaker 2>and Latino USA producer Renaldo Leans Junior flew with the

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<v Speaker 2>Vice President on Air Force two from just outside of

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<v Speaker 2>DC all the way to Miami, and there I sat

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<v Speaker 2>down with Harris at Florida International University, where we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about everything from immigration, to critiques about the Democratic Party,

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<v Speaker 2>to outreach for Latino voters and much more. But the

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<v Speaker 2>one topic you won't hear us talking about is the

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<v Speaker 2>war on Gaza, and that's because this interview took place

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<v Speaker 2>just before the crisis erupted. So without any further ado,

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<v Speaker 2>here's my twenty twenty three conversation with Vice President Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>Madame Vice President, thank you for speaking with us, sitting

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<v Speaker 2>down with us.

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<v Speaker 6>It is my pleasure and honor. Thank you. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 6>to be with you. How you doing. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell me about what you were feeling out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Just give me a sense because you're on this tour.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a predominantly Latino institution. What's your what's your vibe?

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<v Speaker 2>How'd you feel?

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<v Speaker 1>So this is my sixth stop on my tour, which

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<v Speaker 1>we have named the Fight for Our Freedom's Tour, and

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>What we've been told is that this entire idea of

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<v Speaker 2>visiting historically black colleges and universities, Hispanic serving institutions, community colleges,

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<v Speaker 2>and apprenticeship programs across the country was all Kamala Harris's idea.

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<v Speaker 2>She wanted to travel from the University of Wisconsin in Madison,

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<v Speaker 2>to here in Florida, to Northern Arizona University and Flagstaff

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<v Speaker 2>all just to name a few, all of this during

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<v Speaker 2>the months of September and October, with the goal of

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<v Speaker 2>mobilizing young voters.

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<v Speaker 1>I am very optimistic about the future of our country.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the main reasons is because when I

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<v Speaker 1>look at these young leaders, when I look at gen

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<v Speaker 1>Z for example, they are stepping up.

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<v Speaker 6>They are not waiting around.

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<v Speaker 1>For other people to create solutions. They are acutely aware

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<v Speaker 1>of what is at stake. They are acutely aware of

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<v Speaker 1>the clock ticking and the need for urgent action. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I decided to embark on this tour as a

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<v Speaker 1>way to one let them know that I see them,

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<v Speaker 1>but also so I can hear from them. And I

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<v Speaker 1>purposely decided to focus on college age people. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>universities and colleges, it's community colleges, and it's apprenticeship programs,

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<v Speaker 1>trade schools, and so today being here at an HSI,

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<v Speaker 1>the largest Hispanic serving institution in the country, was just

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<v Speaker 1>reinforcement of the importance of lifting up the voice of

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<v Speaker 1>America's leadership currently and future leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>The topics the students brought up to the Vice President

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<v Speaker 2>were wide ranging.

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<v Speaker 6>Here are a few of those questions.

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<v Speaker 15>With the election approaching upon us, we understand how important

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<v Speaker 15>and how pivotal it is for our voices to be

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<v Speaker 15>heard and for our votes to be casted. What strategies

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<v Speaker 15>can we the people employed to empower and engaged marginalized

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<v Speaker 15>communities to ensure voting rights are respected and that our voices.

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<v Speaker 16>Mentioned earlier, there have been detrimental changes to reproductive rights.

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<v Speaker 16>Switch in turn has caused a woman's right to abortion

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<v Speaker 16>and a decision to make the choices about her own

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<v Speaker 16>body go under attack. What do you think about this issue,

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<v Speaker 16>it's impact, and what can we do to address it?

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<v Speaker 14>First of the recent advance I'm here in the state

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<v Speaker 14>of Florida. What advice do you have for students looking

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<v Speaker 14>to learn those raw on, you know, uncensored truths about

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<v Speaker 14>our social issues that we face here in the country.

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<v Speaker 14>And what advice would you have for educators looking to

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<v Speaker 14>teach those topics while navigating through all of the roadblocks

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<v Speaker 14>that are currently in stated.

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<v Speaker 2>As each student came up to the mic to ask

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<v Speaker 2>their question, Vice President Harris listened intently, sitting back in

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<v Speaker 2>her chair, her legs crossed, very focused on each student

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<v Speaker 2>as they spoke.

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<v Speaker 1>I was raised in a community that believed in nurturing

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<v Speaker 1>the children and the young people, and so this is

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<v Speaker 1>very familiar to me as something one does as part

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<v Speaker 1>of your responsibility and duty.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the Brookings Institute, thirty one percent of all

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<v Speaker 2>Latino eligible voters are between the ages of eighteen and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine, and these voters are more supportive towards progressive policies.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something elected officials and aspiring twenty twenty four candidates

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<v Speaker 2>are talking about and taking notice. So it's not all

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<v Speaker 2>too surprising that the Biden Harris administration is here today

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<v Speaker 2>in Miami trying to mobilize the vote. But will it work.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we get into what exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>Biden Harris administration is doing to foster the Latino vote

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<v Speaker 2>in Republican leaning Florida, and later we're going to hear

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<v Speaker 2>not yes, welcome back to Latino USA. When we left off,

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<v Speaker 2>we heard Vice President Harris begin to talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>administration's outreach to young voters across the country, especially Latinos

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<v Speaker 2>and Latinas. It's part of the college tour that the

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<v Speaker 2>Vice President designed. Let's go back to my conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>the Vice president now, So when we were on the plane,

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<v Speaker 2>you were very clear when I asked you about Latino

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<v Speaker 2>and Latina voters, and you were like, yep, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>And your answer was they're the future, right. You were

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<v Speaker 2>just like, so, yeah. A lot of people are like, wait,

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<v Speaker 6>Do they vote?

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<v Speaker 2>Aren't they all immigrants? Aren't they takers? You know, this

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<v Speaker 2>whole kind of very confusing narrative that is not true.

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<v Speaker 2>But you were like, I see the future and you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking like data, but you're also talking hard.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm talking life experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm a kid who was raised by parents

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<v Speaker 1>who are actors the civil rights movement in California. I've

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<v Speaker 1>who raised me, and it's natural then for me to

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully be informed about who people are, the history and

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<v Speaker 1>also the future of any group of people. So I

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<v Speaker 1>am very clear about what we're talking about and on

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<v Speaker 1>a variety of subjects. If you look at it in

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<v Speaker 1>some of the work that I've been doing that is

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<v Speaker 1>really a labor of love for me, focusing on small

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<v Speaker 1>businesses and that the fastest one of the fastest growing

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<v Speaker 1>groups of small business owners are Latinas. That the last

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<v Speaker 1>numbers I saw, one in four new small businesses are

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<v Speaker 1>are Latino or Latino owned. Right, So you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it in terms of young people in the future of

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<v Speaker 1>our country and leadership, You're talking about the future of

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<v Speaker 1>our economy. You're talking about just the fact that we

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<v Speaker 1>are a nation that is a diverse nation, and all

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<v Speaker 1>people must be recognized and given the dignity and respect

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<v Speaker 1>they deserve.

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<v Speaker 2>My mantra is Latinos and Latinas are the second largest

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<v Speaker 2>voting cohort in the United States, the second largest voting cohort,

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<v Speaker 2>not a block. Yeah, And people are just like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>they are and the connection has not been made. There

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<v Speaker 2>are Latino activists that I've been speaking to and they're

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<v Speaker 2>just like, we think the Democratic Party and Biden Harris

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<v Speaker 2>get that. So you're having a big impact on.

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<v Speaker 6>This, Oh, we all are.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say that I feel very strongly about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and for a number of reasons. You know, I'm look

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<v Speaker 1>on this college tour, I'm engaged in real talk everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>I go. I talk about, for example, the attacks on

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<v Speaker 1>dei diversity, equity and inclusion, which was born that attack

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<v Speaker 1>was born here in the state of Florida, and an

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<v Speaker 1>attempt by these extremists, so called leaders, to diminish the

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<v Speaker 1>significance of diversity and equity and inclusion.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So back to the point about the state of Latinos

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<v Speaker 1>in America, and of course we know that this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a monolith either. Only two percent of venture capital

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<v Speaker 1>investment go to Latino owned businesses. You look at the

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<v Speaker 1>disparities across the board, and so I'm focused on issues

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<v Speaker 1>like equity. Understand that people don't all start at the

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<v Speaker 1>same base, but they have ambition and aspiration and we

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay attention to the differences to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>people have equal opportunity for success. This is how I

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<v Speaker 1>think about things, and so it's not just only about voting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about my investment in the strength and the prosperity

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<v Speaker 1>and the security of our nation.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not just about winning election.

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<v Speaker 2>As my point, my dad may he rest in peace

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<v Speaker 2>was the big dream when he was born in Dampico

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<v Speaker 2>in Mexico. He was like, I want to help to

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<v Speaker 2>create something that will have people who were born deaf

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<v Speaker 2>here again. So he came to this country hired by

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<v Speaker 2>the University of Chicago, helped to create the cochlear implant,

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<v Speaker 2>Like your mom had a vision and my mom, like

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<v Speaker 2>your mom took me out to the protests when I

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<v Speaker 2>was eight years old. So the nub is that that

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, You're like, well, I was in an a stroller,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well, I'm a little bit older.

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<v Speaker 1>Age is more than a chronological fact, It's a state

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<v Speaker 1>of mind, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was actually out there, but none of us

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<v Speaker 2>could vote. Only my dad could vote. Right, So this

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<v Speaker 2>notion of democracy as something that goes beyond the vote.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great point. That's an excellent that's an excellent point.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think your point is and certainly the way

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<v Speaker 1>I think of it, it's about participation, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>many ways to participate, right, But the alternative is unacceptable,

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<v Speaker 1>which is to be passive and watch things as they happen, invariably,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing they will happen to you if you're not active

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<v Speaker 1>and standing for the things you believe in.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a criticism of the Democratic Party, though, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>which is that you know you don't fight enough, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't stand up for yourselves enough. You don't push back

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<v Speaker 2>against the Republican Party and all of that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>authoritarian push And it's kind of like, why don't the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats come on you guys.

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<v Speaker 6>You've heard that before.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I will tell you that we've got some

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<v Speaker 1>real fighters and the party who are fighting. But we

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<v Speaker 1>let me I feed on mind. I'm going to just

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<v Speaker 1>step back for a moment. What I'm seeing among these extremists,

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<v Speaker 1>so called leaders, is they are intent on dividing and distracting,

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<v Speaker 1>and they want to divide our country, and they want

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<v Speaker 1>to distract people from the fact they're not getting a

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<v Speaker 6>They're not getting anything done, So that's their game.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say everywhere, let's not be distracted by what

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<v Speaker 1>they're up to.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to create unnecessary debates. They want to create

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<v Speaker 1>a debate about whether enslaved people benefited from slavery. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I will not get distracted from the things that we

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<v Speaker 1>need to deal with, such as the fact that you're

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<v Speaker 1>proposing that women and people don't have a right to

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<v Speaker 1>make decisions about their own body. So we are fighting,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're going to fight the fights that are worth having, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and the most important thing is that we have been

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<v Speaker 1>able to achieve things that are actually moving the needle,

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<v Speaker 1>like the climate issue, like capping insulin at thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a month, like allowing Medicare for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>to negotiate drug prices on behalf of Medicare recipients, so

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to bring down the cost of prescription

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<v Speaker 1>medication cap it at two thousand dollars a year for seniors.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big deal. How many people in our country

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<v Speaker 1>are suffering from medical debt which is messing up their

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<v Speaker 1>the verge of bankruptcy. So we're fighting four things for

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<v Speaker 1>the people right and we're going to have a fight

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<v Speaker 1>in front of us in this election to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that folks vote. And that's one of the reasons I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing this college tour to remind people they've got to vote.

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<v Speaker 6>They have to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>The elections make a difference. And let's not forget where

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<v Speaker 1>we were just a couple of years ago and what

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<v Speaker 1>we were dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>So for the first time that we know of reproductive

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<v Speaker 2>right now, abortion access have ended up in the top

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<v Speaker 2>five issues that Latino and Latino voters care about.

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<v Speaker 6>Can you talk a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit about that particular issue of reproductive rights and why

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<v Speaker 2>it matters so much for Latinas and what you're going.

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<v Speaker 6>To say to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first of all, it goes back to your point

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<v Speaker 1>about the stereotypes about who cares about and thinks about what,

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<v Speaker 1>because what I know is the majority of Latinos and

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<v Speaker 1>Latinas support the right of the individual to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to make that decision and not the government. And so

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<v Speaker 1>contrary to some stereotypes about based on religious beliefs that

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<v Speaker 1>there would be a different perspective now and especially depending

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<v Speaker 1>on who you're talking about and when they arrived in

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<v Speaker 1>history of a government taking their rights from them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a big issue for a lot of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you look at the impact, of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>impact is significant. You're looking at, you know, states like Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>states like Florida with huge Latino Latina populations who are

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<v Speaker 1>now being restricted in terms of their access to essential

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<v Speaker 1>reproductive health care. You're looking at when you still look

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<v Speaker 1>at disparities around income and then what that means to

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<v Speaker 1>a woman in Texas or in Florida who has the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of women who seek abortion care have children, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So what that means, god willing, she has a job

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<v Speaker 1>that gives her paid sick leave. God willing she has

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<v Speaker 1>affordable childcare because she's got have to leave the state

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<v Speaker 1>and think about childcare, think about the day she's going

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<v Speaker 1>to miss from work and what that's going to mean

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of her ability to pay rent or buy groceries.

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<v Speaker 1>So the thing is that I think that there are

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<v Speaker 1>lots of stereotypes about where Latinas are on this issue,

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<v Speaker 1>that that Latinas and we're all clear, the governm it

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<v Speaker 6>What to do with her body.

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<v Speaker 2>I spent the last six months since January basically in Uvalde.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you did, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>I know you did. That must have been heart rending.

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<v Speaker 2>But also hopeful because there's a generation of young activists. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>from Uvalde, like from here in Parkland. Yeah yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't there be a federal assault weapons ban?

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<v Speaker 6>Period? Yes? Period?

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<v Speaker 1>Congress has the ability to do it, and we And

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<v Speaker 1>this is why I'm saying to these young leaders here

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<v Speaker 1>and around the country, when they start voting in their

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<v Speaker 1>numbers this is going to change because every Maria, every

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<v Speaker 1>college that I'm going to, I ask the students, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're showing up by the thousands each place. I asked

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<v Speaker 1>the students, raise your hand if you ever had to

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you see all those hands. Honestly, I had

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<v Speaker 6>a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>My heart just clinched because ninety percent of the students

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<v Speaker 1>And the point that I make every time is older

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<v Speaker 1>adults have no idea what these kids have been through.

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<v Speaker 1>They have no idea that these kids like the story

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<v Speaker 1>I tell about this young student who, when I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>with about this, said to me, yeah, and then and

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<v Speaker 1>because of all that, I don't like to go to

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<v Speaker 1>fifth period. And I said, sweetheart, why, And I was

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<v Speaker 1>told because in fifth period that classroom has no closet,

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<v Speaker 1>which means the child has nowhere to hide. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>acutely aware of that when they're sitting in a classroom

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<v Speaker 1>where their minds should be open to the wonders of

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and half of them is concerned about whether

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<v Speaker 1>someone's going to come bust through the door with a gun.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I say on this issue that as it

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<v Speaker 1>relates to what I'm doing in terms of traveling the

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<v Speaker 1>country to speak to young leaders. When they start voting

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<v Speaker 1>in their numbers, this is going to change because they

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<v Speaker 1>are practical. They understand false choices to say you're either

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<v Speaker 1>in favor of the Second Amendment or you want to

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<v Speaker 1>take everyone's guns. I'm in favor of the Second Amendment,

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<v Speaker 1>and we need an assault weapons ban, we need background checks,

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<v Speaker 1>we need red laws.

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<v Speaker 2>On the issue of immigration, yeah, and I thought about

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<v Speaker 2>this a lot, Madame Vice President, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what the issue of denial of due process?

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<v Speaker 2>Because your mother, your father, me, who was not born

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<v Speaker 2>in this country, you know that every single night, every

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<v Speaker 2>single day, people are being denied that due process. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know as a lawyer how you can sit

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<v Speaker 2>with that, knowing that just because we weren't born in

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<v Speaker 2>this country, our country denies those people any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>due process.

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<v Speaker 6>So let me start with this.

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<v Speaker 1>As you and I both know from personal experience and

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<v Speaker 1>just understanding who our country is. This is a nation

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<v Speaker 1>that was founded by immigrants. Immigration makes our country stronger.

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<v Speaker 1>When we came into office, Joe Biden and I were

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a situation where the previous administration I believe

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<v Speaker 1>intentionally tried to break our immigration system dismantle it. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>not forget before we came in family separation policies, what

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<v Speaker 1>they were trying to do to end DAKA, what they

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to do to NTPs, the Muslim ban, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and we undid a lot of that. We are still

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<v Speaker 1>fighting for DACA in the courts. We expanded Temporary Protected

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<v Speaker 1>Status TPS, and most recently we announced for Venezuelans. And

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<v Speaker 1>we are trying to fix a broken immigration system in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the process by which people can come in.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the state of affairs. There is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of work to be done on the issue. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's really important to also deal with the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the first bill, Maria, that we dropped, the first bill,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll never forget the day it was. The first day,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, the day one that we entered after the inauguration,

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<v Speaker 1>the first bill we dropped was a Pathway for Citizenship,

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<v Speaker 1>an immigration bill that Joe Biden sent over to Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>These and I don't like to just so simply characterize

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans versus Democrats, but on this issue, there are especially

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<v Speaker 1>among the Republican leadership there is it's pure politics right now.

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<v Speaker 1>They believe they are politically profiting from the chaos that

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<v Speaker 1>they are intent on creating on this issue of immigration,

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<v Speaker 1>intent on creating on the issue of the border. Instead

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<v Speaker 1>of taking control of the solutions in a productive way.

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<v Speaker 1>They are politically benefited and this is what they've been doing.

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<v Speaker 6>Gone are the days of you know, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, we can criticize the other stuff, but Bush or

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<v Speaker 1>you look at John McCain who said, you know, as Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>we know we need to deal with this and let's

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out our policy as we want a safe

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<v Speaker 1>and orderly and humane system and we're going to keep

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<v Speaker 1>fighting for that.

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<v Speaker 2>A few days after our interview with the Vice president,

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<v Speaker 2>it was announced that the Biden administration would begin deporting

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<v Speaker 2>Venezuelan's at the border. There was also news about more

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<v Speaker 2>construction of twenty miles of border wall in South Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>despite Biden's campaign promise not to build another single inch

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<v Speaker 2>of the wall. The money comes from dollars that were

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<v Speaker 2>appropriated during the Trump administration. President Biden says he had

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<v Speaker 2>to use the money in this way, and when asked

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<v Speaker 2>if he thought the border wall would be effective. The

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<v Speaker 2>President said no, okay, back to my interview now with

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<v Speaker 2>the Vice president. So finally, and this is a hard

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<v Speaker 2>one because it's such an emotional issue, right, and politics

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<v Speaker 2>and campaigning, there's a lot of emotion. So I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people would love to hear the vice president

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<v Speaker 2>apologize for I mean, you said once at one point,

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<v Speaker 2>don't come.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be clear to folks in this region

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<v Speaker 1>who are thinking about making that dangerous track to the

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<v Speaker 1>United States Mexico border, do not come.

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<v Speaker 6>Do not come.

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<v Speaker 1>The United States will continue to enforce our laws and

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<v Speaker 1>secure our border.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, don't come from Central America, and people were

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<v Speaker 2>really shocked. And then I thought, well, Joe Biden actually

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<v Speaker 2>has been covering and on the issue of immigration since

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<v Speaker 2>I've been a journalist. He's really the one that should

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<v Speaker 2>apologize to every immigrant that has been mistreated or badly

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<v Speaker 2>treated in the country. And I'm like, well, will the

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<v Speaker 2>Vice president even ask the president? Because if you apologize,

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<v Speaker 2>if you said, look, we are sorry for the mess.

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<v Speaker 6>We didn't create it. We didn't create the mess, so we.

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<v Speaker 2>Are sorry for what it's doing.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, well, listen, let me just be very clear.

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<v Speaker 1>My heart aches for anyone who has to flee their home,

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<v Speaker 1>especially those who flee harm to themselves or their family,

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<v Speaker 1>much less those who have to leave a place they

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<v Speaker 1>love because they just simply can't take care of the

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<v Speaker 1>basic necessities of their family if they stay. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that is why I have taken on the issue of

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<v Speaker 1>the root causes of people leaving and what we are

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<v Speaker 1>seeing in terms of migration that is happening in particularly

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<v Speaker 1>from the northern part of Central America. I have now

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<v Speaker 1>raised over four billion dollars to focus on what we

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<v Speaker 1>can do to support people in their natural desire to

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<v Speaker 1>stay and not have to leave. The majority people. You

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<v Speaker 1>and I both know this. There majority people don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to leave home. They don't want to leave their grandmother,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to leave the church where they pray,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to leave the neighborhood they grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in and the own only reason they do.

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<v Speaker 6>Usually it's one of two reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>They are escaping and fleeing some harm or they can't

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<v Speaker 1>satisfy their basic needs. So at the core of what

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<v Speaker 1>you are talking about is the importance of humanity and

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<v Speaker 1>having an approach that is humane and understands the condition

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<v Speaker 1>of people.

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<v Speaker 2>And are not worry that they're worried that they're not

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that from Joe Biden and from you.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why I'm pressing you on it. How do you

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<v Speaker 6>push through on that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I hope that they see in terms of the

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<v Speaker 1>approach that we are taking. For example, the work that

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<v Speaker 1>I am doing on the root causes not to mention

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<v Speaker 1>the history of my work on this issue to no,

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<v Speaker 1>I care deeply. I've been working on this issue for years.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about children, you know, when I was Attorney General,

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<v Speaker 1>I pull the legal community of California together to represent

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<v Speaker 1>unaccompanied children who are coming across the border. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a history and a body of work that I have

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<v Speaker 1>that I think is evidence of something I feel very

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<v Speaker 1>strongly and very deeply. It is important to understand the

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<v Speaker 1>experience of people and to have some level of empathy.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, i'll end this on this point. Part

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<v Speaker 1>of what is wrong right now with what is happening

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<v Speaker 1>in our country is there is some perverse kind of

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<v Speaker 1>suggestion that the strength of a leader is measured based

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<v Speaker 1>on who you beat down instead of who you lift up.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe one of the characteristics of strong leadership is

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to have some level of curiosity, concern and

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<v Speaker 1>care for the suffering of other people. That's called empathy.

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<v Speaker 1>No one can ever question whether Joe Biden possesses that

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<v Speaker 1>important quality, and I believe that people who know me

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<v Speaker 1>know I do as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That was my one on one interview with Vice President

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris. This episode was produced by Rinaldo Leanos Junior.

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<v Speaker 2>It was edited by Andrell Lopez Cruzado. It was mixed

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<v Speaker 2>by Stephanie LAbau, Julia Cruso, and gabriel A Biez. The

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<v Speaker 2>Latino USA team also includes Jessica Ellis, Victoria Strada, Ruis Luna,

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<v Speaker 2>Lonimir Marquez, Marta Martinez, Mike Sargent, Nour Saudi, and Nancy Trujillo.

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<v Speaker 2>Peti Lei Ramidez is our co executive producer I'm Your

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<v Speaker 2>Host and co executive producer Marienno Posa. Remember join us

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<v Speaker 2>again on our next episode. In the meantime, look for

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<v Speaker 2>us on all of your social media. I'll see you

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<v Speaker 2>there and remember mate, maayas Chao.

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