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<v Speaker 1>From Futro Media and PRX. It's Latino USA. I'm Maria

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<v Speaker 1>Josa today our award winning series The Moving Border. In

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<v Speaker 1>episodes one and two of The Moving Border, we took

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<v Speaker 1>you to Hoes and Dapachula. Today in episode three, The Caravan,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like one of my favorite places. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why I love this blasts so much. It's just because,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like Mexico and New York all in one.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you know, blasts Us are so special.

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<v Speaker 1>They're one of my favorite places in Mexico. Blasts Us

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<v Speaker 1>are the heart of any town. There are a place

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<v Speaker 1>for people to congregate, to chat, to shop, to catch

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<v Speaker 1>up with friends, to go on a date. You might

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<v Speaker 1>hear live music, lots of babies crying. You're hearing all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of sounds of life in many towns along the

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<v Speaker 1>US Mexico border. Also on the Path North, Blasas have

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<v Speaker 1>now become a different kind of place, a safe space

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<v Speaker 1>for migrants and asylum seekers to congregate. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>arrive in a new city, I'm always stopping by the

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<v Speaker 1>Blasa first, which is what I'm doing right now. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in Tapachula, which is a city in the southern state

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<v Speaker 1>of Chapas, Mexico. It's right across the border from Guatemala.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time I was in this very same blasa,

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<v Speaker 1>I was at the start of twenty twenty, right before

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<v Speaker 1>the COVID pandemic changed everything Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>When we came last time, this place right here on

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<v Speaker 1>my left Reginas, was packed with African people, most and

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<v Speaker 1>they were watching a soccer match. It was a Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Today the plaza is completely cordoned off with metal wires everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Our Mexican colleague, Beinghamin Alfadro, says, the city claims the

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<v Speaker 1>plaza was closed due to COVID, but it doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>make sense. But everywhere around the plaza everything is open.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, oh, you're closing off the plaza because

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<v Speaker 1>this is where actually a lot of patient people come

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<v Speaker 1>to hang out, to make connections, to see what's happening,

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<v Speaker 1>to make plans to get in touch with family. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels pointed, almost like the city has decided to hide

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<v Speaker 1>the problem rather than fix it, because there is a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>What surprised me in twenty twenty was the sheer number

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<v Speaker 1>of asylum seekers and migrants who were stranded here in Dapachula,

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<v Speaker 1>nearly two thousand miles away from their destination at the

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<v Speaker 1>US border to the north. And soon we learned that

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<v Speaker 1>was because Mexico was borrowing US immigration tactics, making it

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<v Speaker 1>nearly impossible to continue north undetected by Mexican immigration agents

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<v Speaker 1>who were now rounding them up and deporting them, something

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<v Speaker 1>that Mexico didn't used to do. So people are now

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<v Speaker 1>forced to stay here, and they have to wait, and

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<v Speaker 1>many of them did just that, wait right here at

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<v Speaker 1>this blaca. Now, if you stand here and look at

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<v Speaker 1>the empty blasa, you might think that things have gotten better,

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<v Speaker 1>that people have been able to move, that they've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to continue their journey north, that maybe that's the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why the plasa has been cleared up. But the

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<v Speaker 1>reality is that there are more Haitian migrants arriving in

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<v Speaker 1>Dapachula now than there were two years ago. That's according

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<v Speaker 1>to GOMAD, the Mexican Commission for Refugee Assistants, the organization

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<v Speaker 1>tasked with processing asylum petitions in Mexico. Actually, since twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>the number of asylum petitions filed with GOMAD has doubled.

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<v Speaker 1>Here last year, the majority of requests were filed by

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<v Speaker 1>Haitian nationals, who became the number one petitioners for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time ever in Mexican history. For years, the majority

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<v Speaker 1>of those applicants had come from Honduras, and between January

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<v Speaker 1>and November of last year, more than ninety thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>entered asylum petitions here in Chiapas, nearly half of them

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<v Speaker 1>were Haitian. Because of this, in late September, Gomar opened

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<v Speaker 1>the city's Gafitaledo's soccer stadium as a processing center for

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<v Speaker 1>new arrivals. So we're pulling up to the Estraceleestadio. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>in the stadium, it's kind of empty. People are leaving

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I see young women gomarcees. Over fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people have shown up here at this stadium in the

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<v Speaker 1>close to two months that it's been open. When we

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<v Speaker 1>drive up, there are no crowds that we've been told

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<v Speaker 1>are gathering here daily.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hello, Okay, So here we are. Now there's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge tree and there is a long line here. So

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<v Speaker 1>what we had to do was just get in the

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<v Speaker 1>car drive around because we thought they were gone. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks like they're gone. No, no, no, no, No, they're here,

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<v Speaker 1>and no longer in the noonday sun. They are now

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<v Speaker 1>standing in line, in a long line, waiting under a

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<v Speaker 1>huge tree.

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<v Speaker 2>In the shade. And there is an ambulance here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as I approached the line and I id

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<v Speaker 1>myself as a journalist, most of the people turned away

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<v Speaker 1>from me.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there are a lot of kids right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see them, babe in arms, hear them little

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<v Speaker 1>toddlers who are just having to withstand standing, a little

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<v Speaker 1>baby under the tree, playing with a brand. It's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>how kids just kind of in these situations. Eventually, a

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<v Speaker 1>woman waves. She's got long black hair and is wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a thin black tank in her arms. She's carrying a

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<v Speaker 1>small white dog. From behind. A man hugs her. He's

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<v Speaker 1>tall and has a freshly shaved head. The couple doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to share their names, but they say that they've

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<v Speaker 1>been in Tapachula just a week and that their journey

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<v Speaker 1>to Mexico has taken them nearly three years. Flying from

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<v Speaker 1>Havana to Mexico City takes just a few hours, but

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<v Speaker 1>Cubans need a visa to enter the country. She says

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<v Speaker 1>that's why she and her husband left their island on

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<v Speaker 1>a boat and made their way to Surinam. There they

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<v Speaker 1>crossed to Guyana, a tiny country at the northern tip

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<v Speaker 1>of South America. But they knew that getting to and

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<v Speaker 1>across the US border was going to take money, so

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<v Speaker 1>instead of continuing north, they hopped on a bus back

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<v Speaker 1>south to Brazil because they had heard that they could

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<v Speaker 1>work and make money there. Arentina, then they got on

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<v Speaker 1>more buses, going south again, this time to Paraguay. From Paraguay,

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<v Speaker 1>they went down to Argentina, the southernmost country in the continent,

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<v Speaker 1>and in each place they would take on odd jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything they could in order to save a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of money to go back north. In Argentina they

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<v Speaker 1>sold bread in the street. In Peru, they worked at

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<v Speaker 1>a dairy farm. In Ecuador, they harvested cacao super. They

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<v Speaker 1>say the work was backbreaking, and because they were undocumented,

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<v Speaker 1>they say they were paid really little. They stayed in

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<v Speaker 1>each country for just a few weeks, sometimes a month,

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<v Speaker 1>saved everything they possibly could, and then they moved on slowly.

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<v Speaker 1>In Chine north. When they made it to Colombia, they

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<v Speaker 1>had to venture into the dangerous Darien Gap to cross

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<v Speaker 1>into Panama and further north in central America. That is

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<v Speaker 1>an isolated jungle filled with steep mountain ranges and poisonous snakes.

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<v Speaker 1>There did used to be a lot of people in

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<v Speaker 1>and about that inn, but in twenty twenty one, over

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand people crossed what many referred to as

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<v Speaker 1>Laruta de la muerte.

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<v Speaker 2>The root of Death.

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<v Speaker 1>That one hundred thousand crossing was a fifteen year record.

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<v Speaker 1>Although no one actually keeps track of those who don't

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<v Speaker 1>make it out alive, the International Organization of Migration reported

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<v Speaker 1>that forty two people died here in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Still they say the actual number is probably much higheral Umemo,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cuban couple, tells me that it took them nearly

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<v Speaker 1>a month to get through the jungle into Panama. They

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<v Speaker 1>got lost, they were returned to Colombia, and along the way,

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<v Speaker 1>they say they saw a lot of abuses, many of

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<v Speaker 1>them acted against black migrants who had it worse, treated

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<v Speaker 1>badly by authorities and sometimes locals and often even other migrants,

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<v Speaker 1>And because Haitians are black and they don't speak Spanish,

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<v Speaker 1>they are the ones that are bullied. The couple says

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<v Speaker 1>they understand why none of the Haitian people would speak

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<v Speaker 1>to us in this line today, because why should they

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<v Speaker 1>trust us? Like the Cuban couple, many of the migrants

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<v Speaker 1>here in Tapachula have been in transit for months, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>for years, and Tapachula is just another barrier plays with

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<v Speaker 1>bureaucratic backlogs so long they can be expected to spend

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<v Speaker 1>another year or two in Mexico just waiting for transit

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<v Speaker 1>documents in order to continue their journey north towards the

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<v Speaker 1>US safely. And that is why caravans are so appealing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's much riskier to travel alone, but a big group

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<v Speaker 1>calls attention, so it's harder to be harmed or assaulted

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<v Speaker 1>by criminals or by the Mexican police. The week prior

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<v Speaker 1>to our arrival here, about fifteen hundred migrants left from

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<v Speaker 1>Tapachula on their way north. They're now on their way

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<v Speaker 1>to chow Wheet, this which is a small town in

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<v Speaker 1>the state of Wahaka, and they plan to stop and

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<v Speaker 1>rest for the night there before continuing north. So we

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<v Speaker 1>get in our car and decide to meet them there.

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<v Speaker 1>What takes us five hours to drive is what the

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<v Speaker 1>caravan has done walking for two weeks straight. What this

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<v Speaker 1>is an actual border, This Okay, I'm having a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really having a moment. This is what it used

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<v Speaker 1>to look like when you were crossing into the United States. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>that you would have these little things that you would

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<v Speaker 1>pull up and you'd have to pull your.

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<v Speaker 2>Car up, and then you would open your car and

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<v Speaker 2>search it on. And that's what they're doing right now,

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<v Speaker 2>COmON lost check point. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an absolute imitation of US Border Patrol control track

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<v Speaker 1>sings internally in Mexico. So this is another way in

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<v Speaker 1>which this country has chosen to basically imitate the policies

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<v Speaker 1>created by the United States, and we just witnessed.

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<v Speaker 2>It coming up on Latino USA.

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<v Speaker 1>We arrive in Wahaca, Mexico and meet a caravan of

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<v Speaker 1>asylum seekers on their week's long journey north by foot.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with us, not yes, Hey, we're back. Finally we make.

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<v Speaker 2>It to the state of Wahaka.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just made a left turn into Chawetness, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like little tiny town.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not much here at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Dirt roads, mostly except for the main one that we're on.

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<v Speaker 1>Within a few minutes, we arrive at the Blaca and

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we see hundreds and hundreds of people in

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<v Speaker 1>this small park, and they are all just resting.

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<v Speaker 2>They look exhausted.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mexican police are here too, and they're armed to

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<v Speaker 1>the teeth, even though the people here are mostly families. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ, look at this guy with Holy Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at the size of that machine gun. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>as big as me. Okay, so quite militarized. We turn

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<v Speaker 1>a corner into the darkness of the plaza and I

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<v Speaker 1>hear a family speaking Creole. Among hundreds of Central American

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<v Speaker 1>asylum seekers in this park, we'd only seen a few

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<v Speaker 1>black migrants. I get close and she tells me we

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<v Speaker 1>Delen is her name, Silvia. I'm immediately taken in by

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<v Speaker 1>this family. We're gonna call them lap Familia Felix. Felix

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<v Speaker 1>is their last name, Bidlin. The mom is striking. She's

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<v Speaker 1>got a beautiful smile and high cheekbones and very inviting eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>She has her arms around her husband. I'm glad as

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<v Speaker 1>she's speaking, she's gently and lovingly caressing him.

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<v Speaker 2>They have four.

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<v Speaker 1>Children, two teenage boys and two girls eleven and ten,

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<v Speaker 1>and they sit next to their mother on a worn

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<v Speaker 1>blanket on the hard concrete of the sidewalk, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to her attentively, smiling and nodding as their parents speak.

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<v Speaker 3>To us doubl dominicana istavaciendo de portacion and brazil in

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<v Speaker 1>Mom worked as a pharmacy assistant and dad worked in

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<v Speaker 1>of undocumented Haitians, even if they are born on their soil,

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<v Speaker 1>without any protections, no documentation. So I'm glad their father

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<v Speaker 1>made the tough decision to emigrate to Brazil. After several years,

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<v Speaker 1>the family was able to reunite there. The family struggled,

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<v Speaker 1>during the pandemic. Then by the and became president and

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<v Speaker 1>so they took their savings and began their journey north. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>the Feliks family makes it to Colombia to Akandi, a

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<v Speaker 1>the Panamanian border, but this would cost them hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>So they make the decision to set out to cross

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<v Speaker 1>the Dadian jungle without a map on their own. The

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<v Speaker 1>people who looked like them, but they had to keep going. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>so they had to do the unthinkable, start all over

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<v Speaker 1>up his girls, but they always heard the same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the classes were full. Eventually, he decided to call a

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<v Speaker 2>They had space. He just needed to come in and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad, says when he got to the school and

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<v Speaker 1>his voice begins to crack. He says he couldn't bear

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<v Speaker 1>that his daughters were going to miss out on an education,

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<v Speaker 1>on having a childhood, and so that's when they decided

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<v Speaker 3>Caravans on an NFL man.

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<v Speaker 1>Asking the US for asylum is a big risk for

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<v Speaker 1>families like the Felixes, like the vast majority of Haitians

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<v Speaker 1>making their way to the US.

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<v Speaker 2>They've not lived in.

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<v Speaker 1>Their own country for years. Being deported to Haiti would

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<v Speaker 1>be the worst case scenario. That's why they joined this caravan.

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<v Speaker 1>I look around at people falling asleep in this park,

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<v Speaker 1>in the outdoors, and I'm thinking about how these caravans

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<v Speaker 1>are so often framed as something to be feared in

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<v Speaker 1>US media. For the people here, this is the smartest,

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<v Speaker 1>most secure, most strategic decision that they can make to

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<v Speaker 1>travel in a caravan because it's safe. In the US media,

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<v Speaker 1>they're portrayed like they're forcing their way into the United

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<v Speaker 1>States or trying to intimidate Americans. But in fact, what

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<v Speaker 1>I see is a very different narrative of a caravan.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a caravan of love, safety and security, and

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<v Speaker 1>for the people putting every thing on the line in

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<v Speaker 1>this park, there's community. When we return the next morning

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<v Speaker 1>at four o'clock, the park is still quiet, even though

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<v Speaker 1>there are more than a thousand people sleeping here, one

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<v Speaker 1>next to another on the sidewalks, in the streets, in

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<v Speaker 1>the grassy patches of the plaza. As we walk around quietly,

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<v Speaker 1>we find the Felix's family. They're all sharing one blanket,

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<v Speaker 1>all six of them huddled together. Then I see the dad,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad, get up and start brushing his teeth using

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<v Speaker 1>a water bottle over the sidewalk where he was just sleeping.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they all wake up, come together, bow their heads,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I see them holding hands and praying quietly together.

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<v Speaker 1>People are walking, they're coughing, they're going to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>They're starting their day, just the way all people do.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the energy shifts again because people have started

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<v Speaker 1>to walk and it's still pitch black outside.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are at this start of the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, they just said, let's go and suddenly everybody's on

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<v Speaker 1>their feet and moving in less than a minute. People

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<v Speaker 1>are stuck and they're walking out to Our family is

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<v Speaker 1>actually very close to the front now at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>as the sun is rising, we walk with the Felix's

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<v Speaker 1>family for several miles through the town of Chaweitis, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we reach a highway. There are people around us

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<v Speaker 1>and wheel chairs. There are so many elderly people. There

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<v Speaker 1>are little kids being pushed in strollers. There are some

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<v Speaker 1>people who are missing limbs and are on crutches.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is not like we're walking slowly and

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<v Speaker 2>making our way. This is a New York City walk.

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<v Speaker 2>We are determined, we're walking fast.

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<v Speaker 1>We walk for a little while longer on the highway,

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<v Speaker 1>but then we have to say goodbye to the familiar Felix.

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<v Speaker 2>Today. They'll probably walk for another eight to ten hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we watched the caravan walk away and realize we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to go in the opposite direction. They're heading north.

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<v Speaker 1>But everyone we've spoken to has talked about coming from

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<v Speaker 1>much further south. We're talking about coming from Colombia from

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<v Speaker 1>the jungle, and the people we're seeing who are coming

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<v Speaker 1>are changing. This movement of people is increasingly black, whether

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<v Speaker 1>from Africa or from Haiti, and they're making their way

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<v Speaker 1>north through the Dadien Gap, the jungle between Colombia and Panama,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where we're headed to next. Now we're landing

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<v Speaker 1>in Boroda on a foggy November afternoon, but our destination

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<v Speaker 1>is far from the capital city.

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<v Speaker 2>We're traveling to Las Dicas.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a makeshift camp for migrants and refugees at the

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<v Speaker 1>edge of the dadi Enn on the northern Colombian border,

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<v Speaker 1>which is to say, it's in the middle of the jungle.

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<v Speaker 1>After two plane rides, a four hour car ride, a

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<v Speaker 1>night in a hostel in another town, we finally secure

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<v Speaker 1>tickets for an eight a m boat ride to Akandhi,

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<v Speaker 1>the tiny town where the journey to the camp will begin.

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<v Speaker 2>So we just got our life preservers.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's boiling hot outside and we've just been giving

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<v Speaker 1>black life preserver but we have there's like all these

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<v Speaker 1>safety that we're in this boat for close to two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>We're jumping through the waves of the Caribbean Sea. We're

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<v Speaker 1>literally in the middle of nowhere and this is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally they call it our stop.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Unlike the prior stops where the Colombian tour got off

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<v Speaker 1>at ports in their bathing suits and ran off to

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<v Speaker 1>their little hotels, our stop was a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>We stopped in the middle of the sea, and then

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<v Speaker 1>a small raft pulled up to the side, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the tiny boat was there as we jumped in with

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<v Speaker 1>our bags that were wrapped in black trash bags to

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<v Speaker 1>keep them dry, and then we pulled off and saw

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<v Speaker 1>the coast in the distance. Once we get to a Gandhi,

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<v Speaker 1>we just see a bunch of people kind of hanging around,

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<v Speaker 1>and we hear that migrants arrive here multiple times a

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<v Speaker 1>day at a little hidden port that's just a few

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<v Speaker 1>steps down the way, and for five dollars, a motorcycle

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<v Speaker 1>taxi says that they'll take us there so.

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<v Speaker 2>That we can see for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 5>And now i'm amie.

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<v Speaker 1>When we get to this hidden port, there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>to know if anybody's going to be arriving today.

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<v Speaker 2>But then after just a few minutes we see a

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<v Speaker 1>So there is a small boat arriving with one two, three, four, five, six.

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<v Speaker 4>Seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen eighteen, nineteen twenty twenty one. I think four of

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<v Speaker 4>those are kids when is being nursed right now, that

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<v Speaker 2>New York, So messicado. Everyone getting off the boat looks

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<v Speaker 1>This group is suddenly hurried off by another group of

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<v Speaker 1>Colombian young men who are yelling instructions in Spanish. And

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<v Speaker 1>I look at them and I realize that they're wearing

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<v Speaker 2>The idea says, they're gillas or guides.

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<v Speaker 1>You're wearing laminated look even here a laminated tagre.

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<v Speaker 4>A be yes.

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<v Speaker 6>He says.

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<v Speaker 1>There are all kinds of workers here, tour guides like

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<v Speaker 1>him who will help guide the migrants to the camp,

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<v Speaker 1>which is about four hours away, and then through the

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<v Speaker 1>day inn until they reach the Panamanian border. There are

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<v Speaker 1>other people who are official bag carriers. There are even

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<v Speaker 1>people who specialize in carrying babies and children. When I

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<v Speaker 1>ask him he works for, he won't say, but he

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<v Speaker 1>does say that they're not employed by the government. Elombre

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<v Speaker 1>the man is their boss, and he's the one who

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<v Speaker 1>makes sure that the people here are.

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<v Speaker 2>Saved no naturistico.

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<v Speaker 1>As they get ready to take off to let's take us,

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<v Speaker 1>So do we, and then a massive storm explodes, like

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<v Speaker 1>what became pretty usual in the border towns along the

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<v Speaker 2>Now Here in this part of.

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<v Speaker 1>Colombia, on the edge of the jungle, migrants have brought

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<v Speaker 1>a new economy to Akandi. That's because the border that

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<v Speaker 1>US bound migrants need to overcome continues to move further

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<v Speaker 1>and further south. In October twenty twenty, US Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>State Anthony Blincoln participated in a regional conference in Bogota,

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<v Speaker 1>where high level officials from across South America discussed, among

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<v Speaker 1>other things, how migrants heading towards the US are affecting

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<v Speaker 1>their countries and their economies.

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<v Speaker 7>The migration challenge that we're facing in our hemisphere is

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<v Speaker 7>not one country's problem. It's our shared problem, and it

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<v Speaker 7>cannot be solved by any one country. We have to

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<v Speaker 7>solve it together. That's the spirit I think that brings

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<v Speaker 7>us together today and I hope informs the work that

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<v Speaker 1>A big focus of Blincoln's speech centered around human rights,

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<v Speaker 1>urging Colombia to take care of their new neighbors, Venezuelans

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<v Speaker 1>who are fleeing the Maduro dictatorship, And I think about

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<v Speaker 1>the hypocrisy of this statement of the US asking Colombia

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<v Speaker 1>to help asylum seekers from a bordering country. Well, what

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<v Speaker 1>about Mexicans at the US border are neighbors? What about

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<v Speaker 1>asylum seekers from all over? What about many people who

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<v Speaker 1>are fleeing violence, poverty, dictatorships and are asking for that

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<v Speaker 1>recognition in the United States? The moving border is evident

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<v Speaker 1>to me here in this tiny town of Akandi, where

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<v Speaker 1>fishermen have become coyotes or tour guides as they call themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>where women have opened makeshift kitchens in their homes. Suddenly,

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<v Speaker 1>the decisions of far away politicians in Washington, DC are

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<v Speaker 1>having a deep effect on their daily lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Right here in a Gandhi.

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<v Speaker 1>After hours of waiting in town, the rain finally begins

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<v Speaker 1>to subside. Our guides have heard that the group of

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<v Speaker 1>asylum seekers that we had met earlier are attempting to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the same camp that we're going to. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is is that there are several rivers you have

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<v Speaker 2>But if we are going to catch up with the group.

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<v Speaker 1>Our guides say this is the moment to go, So

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<v Speaker 1>each one of us boards a motorcycle and then we

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<v Speaker 1>arrived to the very first river, but it's overflowing, so

423
00:33:52.320 --> 00:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>we have to pay ten dollars each for a fisherman

424
00:33:54.840 --> 00:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>to cross us and put our motorcycles two at a

425
00:33:57.920 --> 00:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>time on his tiny boat.

426
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:01.400
<v Speaker 4>So we're in a river that we might.

427
00:34:01.320 --> 00:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Have been able to walk across just a little bit ago,

428
00:34:03.840 --> 00:34:06.120
<v Speaker 1>but because of the rain that was torrential for about

429
00:34:06.120 --> 00:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>two hours now we've found in this little motor boat

430
00:34:09.160 --> 00:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>to get across the mirror. The journey is pretty treacherous

431
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>and it takes nearly four hours. I'm holding on to

432
00:34:17.080 --> 00:34:21.439
<v Speaker 1>my driver for life, because more often than not we're

433
00:34:21.600 --> 00:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>sinking deep into the rivers in our motorcycles that I

434
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:28.880
<v Speaker 1>never knew were actually water resistant. Our boots are sinking

435
00:34:29.040 --> 00:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>me deep into the mud. We have to literally pull

436
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:36.280
<v Speaker 1>each other out, pull the motorcycles out, and hold hands

437
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>like a chain in order to get across the high

438
00:34:38.560 --> 00:34:43.560
<v Speaker 1>water of the rivers. I'm thinking about La Familia Felix

439
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>making this exact same journey on their own with their children,

440
00:34:49.160 --> 00:34:54.240
<v Speaker 1>without guides, without motorcycles, to alleviate the long.

441
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:57.759
<v Speaker 2>Long walk and how scary all of this must have

442
00:34:57.840 --> 00:34:58.319
<v Speaker 2>been for them.

443
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:03.600
<v Speaker 1>But finally, as the sun sets and it gets harder

444
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and harder to see what's around us, we arrive in

445
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Las Decas, which is the camp at the edge of

446
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>the Dai Inn where the journey into the jungle and

447
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>into Panama starts. Our guides tell them that we were

448
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>given the okay by the man. We're not sure who

449
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>that is, to be allowed into this camp. We wander

450
00:35:31.080 --> 00:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>around and look at the empty camp for a while.

451
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about the tens of thousands of people who

452
00:35:37.600 --> 00:35:40.800
<v Speaker 1>have spent at least one night here on their journey.

453
00:35:41.520 --> 00:35:43.000
<v Speaker 2>A few people actually live here.

454
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Over the past few months, since there was so much

455
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:49.560
<v Speaker 1>movement here, they decided to set up shop, and so

456
00:35:50.080 --> 00:35:54.480
<v Speaker 1>some of them sell food. Another runs a Wi Fi stand. Yes,

457
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:57.760
<v Speaker 1>there is Wi Fi in this little piece of the jungle.

458
00:35:59.040 --> 00:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>The people here tell us that the group we met

459
00:36:01.040 --> 00:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>earlier hasn't arrived yet, that many of them are making

460
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the journey we did on motorcycles, but they're doing it

461
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>by foot. We're all exhausted, though, so we decide to

462
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:24.839
<v Speaker 1>set up a camp as we wait to see if

463
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the migrants we met at the ports will actually make

464
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:33.560
<v Speaker 1>it here to the camp tonight. The sun has gone

465
00:36:33.600 --> 00:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>down now it's dark outside. We're sitting down to eat

466
00:36:37.600 --> 00:36:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the bowls of rice and sausage that our guides have

467
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>cooked on a tiny portable stove. Then in the distance

468
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>we see some lights. First they look kind of like fireflies,

469
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>but then eventually we see that there's actually a line,

470
00:36:51.680 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and it starts to get longer and longer, and the

471
00:36:54.560 --> 00:36:57.920
<v Speaker 1>lights begin to get bigger. Suddenly someone says, hey, the

472
00:36:58.040 --> 00:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>migrants are arriving.

473
00:37:00.160 --> 00:37:03.400
<v Speaker 2>We can see them walking in now. Just you know,

474
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:05.560
<v Speaker 2>a line of people coming in.

475
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:11.479
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine what they feel, but you just see

476
00:37:11.600 --> 00:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>tense and you're like, oh my god, I'm going to be.

477
00:37:13.040 --> 00:37:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Able to rest. About a dozen people arrive here. One

478
00:37:17.560 --> 00:37:21.960
<v Speaker 2>guy has got two from the backpacks and like a.

479
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:24.319
<v Speaker 6>Sleeping mat.

480
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.399
<v Speaker 1>This other guy has got a big ass back bag

481
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:28.839
<v Speaker 1>covered in a plastic bag.

482
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:30.440
<v Speaker 2>The other guy is again I think got two.

483
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:33.080
<v Speaker 1>They tell us that the group is going to start

484
00:37:33.120 --> 00:37:35.680
<v Speaker 1>their journey to the That End jungle at about four

485
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the morning, right before sunrise, So we decide

486
00:37:40.080 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 1>we'll join them by ten o'clock a major rainstorm. Another

487
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>one begins to tear through the camp. I'm sleeping in

488
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.239
<v Speaker 1>a makeshift bed under a tarp. I'm the luckiest person here,

489
00:37:54.640 --> 00:37:59.040
<v Speaker 1>But my producer, Julieta, was in a hammock nearby. That's

490
00:37:59.040 --> 00:38:03.879
<v Speaker 1>where the guides are sleep as well. Suddenly she wakes

491
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:07.520
<v Speaker 1>up and the tarp roof is now just a few

492
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:12.399
<v Speaker 1>inches from her head, weighed down by the rain water.

493
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Then all of a sudden there's the sound of wood creaking,

494
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:20.880
<v Speaker 1>and one of the guides runs in and tells her

495
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>to get out of the hammock immediately, and then he

496
00:38:24.680 --> 00:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>says she actually could have been suffocated.

497
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:28.360
<v Speaker 2>She could have drowned.

498
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:33.359
<v Speaker 1>In that moment, our guides start ripping huge gashes into

499
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the tarps.

500
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:38.360
<v Speaker 8>The roof totally caved in, and looking at it, the

501
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:41.239
<v Speaker 8>canvas seems up. You know, most people just have very

502
00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:47.320
<v Speaker 8>makeshift haarp tents roofs, And so he's telling me that

503
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:50.040
<v Speaker 8>he thinks, you know, most of the folks out there

504
00:38:50.120 --> 00:38:52.040
<v Speaker 8>tonight got soaked.

505
00:38:55.040 --> 00:38:58.320
<v Speaker 1>We were so worried and prepared for the risk of jungles,

506
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>snakes and spiders for dehydration, but we didn't consider that

507
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:07.759
<v Speaker 1>even sleeping here is a vulnerability. Our guide tells my

508
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:11.239
<v Speaker 1>producer that these are the kinds of dangers that people

509
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:15.320
<v Speaker 1>face out here. With that thought, we go back to

510
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:20.839
<v Speaker 1>sleep for a few hours. It's four a m. Now

511
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and we're drinking coffee in plastic cups. Someone on our

512
00:39:25.560 --> 00:39:28.840
<v Speaker 1>crew packed a small bag of condensed milk, and the

513
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:32.400
<v Speaker 1>bag is passed around like precious gold to sweeten the

514
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>bitter morning coffee. I can see that there's movement in

515
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the camp. People are packing up their tents and they're

516
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>getting ready for this big moment to finally go into

517
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the jungle. I offer the bag of sweet milk to

518
00:39:51.120 --> 00:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a young man who's sitting on a nearby bench. He

519
00:39:54.080 --> 00:39:57.360
<v Speaker 1>tells me his name is Houthi. I'm a Nigera and

520
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Nika and yeah nice. Jiaffrans Uti is referring to Biafra,

521
00:40:04.120 --> 00:40:08.759
<v Speaker 1>a state in West Africa that succeeded from Nigeria and

522
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:12.680
<v Speaker 1>existed from nineteen sixty seven to nineteen seventy.

523
00:40:13.200 --> 00:40:15.239
<v Speaker 6>Well, there's no points you go in the war now, johns.

524
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Jiaffran Udi too has had a long journey. First he

525
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:24.839
<v Speaker 1>tried his luck in Ghana, then Ethiopia. Eventually he flew

526
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to Brazil, and then made his way through several other

527
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>South American countries, but in each place he says he

528
00:40:32.680 --> 00:40:36.759
<v Speaker 1>barely made enough to get by, let alone send money

529
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:40.280
<v Speaker 1>to his family, and that's when he decided to head north.

530
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:42.400
<v Speaker 5>He puts me in a boss.

531
00:40:42.520 --> 00:40:45.120
<v Speaker 3>When I came down to Tukan the nurse day, call him,

532
00:40:45.520 --> 00:40:52.520
<v Speaker 3>not Nko, call him, call h Ni kaint elmon.

533
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:53.520
<v Speaker 2>And he was Ecuadorian.

534
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Udi has a real sense of humor about

535
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>all of the struggles he's faced. And then he starts laughing,

536
00:41:01.600 --> 00:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>telling me the hardest part of the journey was sleeping

537
00:41:04.200 --> 00:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>in the tiny tent last night. Because Udi is well

538
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:08.839
<v Speaker 1>over six feet tall.

539
00:41:10.080 --> 00:41:12.600
<v Speaker 6>You can't stretch your leg India, how to ford it done?

540
00:41:13.600 --> 00:41:14.240
<v Speaker 4>But we strate.

541
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:28.399
<v Speaker 1>Udi then grabs his small bag and puts on a thick,

542
00:41:28.520 --> 00:41:31.719
<v Speaker 1>puffy jacket that he's been carrying. Even though it's really

543
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>hot outside. He's ready now to walk into the Dadian

544
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and so we decide to join him and follow along

545
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:45.439
<v Speaker 1>with his group. We cross several rivers and we try

546
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>to keep up with the group, and they are speed

547
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:52.160
<v Speaker 1>walking through the jungle. There are almost two dozen people,

548
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.040
<v Speaker 1>most of them are Haitian, though our guides I d

549
00:41:55.200 --> 00:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>several others as being from Africa. Finally we get to

550
00:42:01.120 --> 00:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>the top of a small clearing and then the yelling begins.

551
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Now the large group seems to have no problem with us,

552
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:19.320
<v Speaker 1>but there's a couple of guys, and these guys have

553
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:20.359
<v Speaker 1>now surrounded us.

554
00:42:20.640 --> 00:42:22.320
<v Speaker 2>They're trying to take our equipment.

555
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:25.719
<v Speaker 1>We're trying to explain that we've abided by our deal

556
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and that there are no photographs. My producer, Julieta, doesn't

557
00:42:29.680 --> 00:42:35.479
<v Speaker 1>understand what just happened. When I saw Oodi I asked

558
00:42:35.520 --> 00:42:38.480
<v Speaker 1>him quickly if we could take a selfie. He said yes,

559
00:42:39.080 --> 00:42:41.279
<v Speaker 1>But when I took out my phone, this small group

560
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:42.600
<v Speaker 1>of men became very upset.

561
00:42:43.200 --> 00:42:45.080
<v Speaker 2>They thought I was photographing people.

562
00:42:47.040 --> 00:42:49.279
<v Speaker 1>It's at this moment that we realize we need to

563
00:42:49.680 --> 00:42:55.680
<v Speaker 1>let this group continue without us. And suddenly, here in

564
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the jungle, we feel very aware of

565
00:42:59.120 --> 00:43:04.319
<v Speaker 1>the invasive name nature of our jobs. Usually when we're

566
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:08.279
<v Speaker 1>on reporting trips like this, we find people who want

567
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>to share their story, but here in the jungle it

568
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>feels different. Many of the Haitian migrants that we have

569
00:43:17.040 --> 00:43:22.400
<v Speaker 1>met have had terrible experiences In South America, migration is

570
00:43:22.520 --> 00:43:26.320
<v Speaker 1>easy for no one but as we've learned, it is

571
00:43:26.600 --> 00:43:32.960
<v Speaker 1>particularly challenging if you are black, so we decide to

572
00:43:33.160 --> 00:43:38.520
<v Speaker 1>let them continue their journey without us. It's a disappointing

573
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:41.880
<v Speaker 1>end to our journey through that inn, but it really

574
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:45.680
<v Speaker 1>speaks to the pain and fear and trauma that people

575
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:54.279
<v Speaker 1>are dealing with as they make this journey. Coming up

576
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:59.680
<v Speaker 1>on Latin USA, we finally meet the elusive man orchestrating

577
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:04.080
<v Speaker 1>my prince journeys through the Colombian jungle, and then we

578
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:05.680
<v Speaker 1>hear some devastating news.

579
00:44:07.040 --> 00:44:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Stay with us, yes, hey, we're back.

580
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:58.440
<v Speaker 1>A couple of hours after we return to Las Decas,

581
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:03.760
<v Speaker 1>we see a new group of migrants arriving. They're covered

582
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:08.160
<v Speaker 1>in mud and they look exhausted, like they've been walking

583
00:45:08.520 --> 00:45:13.600
<v Speaker 1>all night long. Suddenly, someone walks up to my producer

584
00:45:13.680 --> 00:45:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Julieta and takes her to another man who is standing

585
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.960
<v Speaker 1>next to a very large motorcycle. And that man has

586
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:27.400
<v Speaker 1>caramel skin, sea moss green eyes. He's attractive. He's wearing

587
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.040
<v Speaker 1>a bright gold and black kafia and he has a

588
00:45:31.160 --> 00:45:35.840
<v Speaker 1>shiny leather bag strung across his chest. There are several

589
00:45:36.040 --> 00:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>young men who are standing at a distance. They're just

590
00:45:39.160 --> 00:45:43.719
<v Speaker 1>watching him and that's when Julieta, my producer, realizes who

591
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:48.080
<v Speaker 1>this guy is and she immediately comes from me. She says,

592
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:52.760
<v Speaker 1>she's speaking to el Mann, the man, the guy behind

593
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:55.759
<v Speaker 1>it all, and his name is Freddy.

594
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:00.200
<v Speaker 5>Ogada Passo.

595
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:19.160
<v Speaker 9>Said come from me, Sonia, you're not going as And then.

596
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Freddy does not see himself as a coyote.

597
00:46:25.160 --> 00:46:28.640
<v Speaker 1>He says he's built roads, given people jobs, made those

598
00:46:29.040 --> 00:46:32.960
<v Speaker 1>laminated I D cards and even made this camp.

599
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Let's take us.

600
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:53.120
<v Speaker 5>Too and pasco trial and see you to pass.

601
00:46:58.040 --> 00:47:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Freddy is careful to add that he's just a representative

602
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:06.840
<v Speaker 1>of the community. But since they took over the migrant

603
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>related operations in Akandi over the last five months, he

604
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:14.279
<v Speaker 1>says there have been no robberies, no assaults, and that

605
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:17.720
<v Speaker 1>they are guaranteeing people can be safe on this journey.

606
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:21.000
<v Speaker 1>People we spoke with at the camp seemed to agree,

607
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:24.680
<v Speaker 1>saying that since they arrived in Akandi that the guides

608
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:28.040
<v Speaker 1>have helped them to get here safely. That is, if

609
00:47:28.080 --> 00:47:34.120
<v Speaker 1>you have money, because everything has a cost, the motorcycles,

610
00:47:34.520 --> 00:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the bag carriers, the guides, even the entrance to the camp,

611
00:47:40.560 --> 00:47:47.240
<v Speaker 1>because migration is a money business, whether it's government officials, police,

612
00:47:47.640 --> 00:47:53.959
<v Speaker 1>or even narcos. People are getting paid the man el Mann.

613
00:47:54.600 --> 00:47:58.600
<v Speaker 1>He says he's doing a service for people guaranteeing their

614
00:47:58.680 --> 00:48:03.560
<v Speaker 1>safety on this journey that all the international migration organizations

615
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:08.839
<v Speaker 1>can't or will not do. That's why, like the people

616
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:12.920
<v Speaker 1>who joined the caravan, even if it's an illusion of safety,

617
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:18.520
<v Speaker 1>people here will seek protection in numbers and move in groups,

618
00:48:22.680 --> 00:48:27.320
<v Speaker 1>covered in mud, sweaty, and days without a shower. We

619
00:48:27.680 --> 00:48:29.719
<v Speaker 1>get back on the motorcycles that are going to take

620
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:33.360
<v Speaker 1>us back to Wakandi, and then we'll board our boat

621
00:48:33.680 --> 00:48:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and begin our trek back home. I think about how

622
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:41.040
<v Speaker 1>much longer the journey is still ahead for all of

623
00:48:41.120 --> 00:48:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the people that we met at last Dicas. When you're here,

624
00:48:45.120 --> 00:48:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the jungle seems like a nearly impossible, endless barrier, the

625
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:52.640
<v Speaker 1>one that everyone is focusing on just to make it

626
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:57.080
<v Speaker 1>out alive. By the time they reach this point, people

627
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:00.520
<v Speaker 1>are now burnt out, they're broke, they're nearly exhausted.

628
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:05.840
<v Speaker 2>The thing is, this is just the beginning of the journey.

629
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Getting through Mexico to the US border is another barrier,

630
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:15.400
<v Speaker 1>one that might be even more unpredictable and more deadly

631
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:26.240
<v Speaker 1>than the Dadian jungle. In the days after my return,

632
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<v Speaker 1>I looked for news about the caravan that we had

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<v Speaker 1>traveled with, but it was basically gone from the headlines.

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<v Speaker 1>The new migration patterns that we saw on this trip

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<v Speaker 1>are showing that thousands more people are prepared to make

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<v Speaker 1>this trip from even farther away than before, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>joining the many people who are already in Mexico stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in an immigration process that is hopelessly backlogged. Meanwhile, in

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<v Speaker 1>the US, the Biden administration was responsible for more than

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<v Speaker 1>one million expulsions last year. For context, in twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump presidency expelled less than half the number of migrants.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even people who are escaping the most devastating of disasters, corruption, violence, persecution,

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<v Speaker 1>and racism are finding safe haven in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>when they come from a country that the US has

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<v Speaker 1>basically othered, people like the Philipes family from Haiti. On

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<v Speaker 1>January twenty sixth, two and a half months after I

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<v Speaker 1>hugged her goodbye on a highway in Wahaka, I finally

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<v Speaker 1>got a message from Withelin asking me to please call her. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>don't they ask with the Lin are ivy delin keep us?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 10>Johanna's sake, keep us soon.

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<v Speaker 6>And peas.

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<v Speaker 1>Videlin and her entire family is now in Haiti, ten

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<v Speaker 1>years after she escaped the devastation of an earthquake that

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed everything that she had worked for, after birthing her

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<v Speaker 1>two youngest children in the Dominican Republic, after living in

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<v Speaker 1>South America for years, After crossing the Dadian jungle twice,

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<v Speaker 1>she and her family made it to the US, but

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen days later, the Biden administration deported them back to Haiti.

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<v Speaker 6>And Yes, Yes Momento tote yokiro Y, her.

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<v Speaker 10>Newest piona in Trevistad Vistaso.

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<v Speaker 1>Pented, but then the border patrol caught them in the desert.

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<v Speaker 1>They were someplace south of Yuma. She says it was

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<v Speaker 1>New Year's Eve. Her husband asked the border patrol agents

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<v Speaker 1>for an asylum interview very clearly, but she says that

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<v Speaker 1>the CBP officer told them that Haitians had lost the

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<v Speaker 1>right to get any kind of asylum interview after quote

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<v Speaker 1>what they did in del Rio. The agent was referencing

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<v Speaker 1>the incident months prior when a group of Haitian migrants

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<v Speaker 1>tried to cross the border and they were attacked by

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<v Speaker 1>border patrol on horseback using whips. Homeland Security called the

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<v Speaker 1>video extremely troubling, saying the full investigation, which will be

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<v Speaker 1>conducted swiftly, will define the appropriate disciplinary action. But the

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<v Speaker 1>Felix family wasn't even aware that any of that had happened.

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<v Speaker 1>They were deep in the jungle of the Dead Yenne

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<v Speaker 1>when this confrontation took place at the Del Rio Bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Ridelin says when her family boarded the plane, an immigration

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<v Speaker 1>agent told them they were going to Miami, but when

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<v Speaker 1>the doors opened again, they were in Haiti. That lie,

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<v Speaker 1>that last bit of cruelty crushed her. Because Videlin, like

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<v Speaker 1>the vast majority of the Haitian asylum seekers who have

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<v Speaker 1>been arriving at the US Mexico border over the last

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<v Speaker 1>year and have established a residency in other countries before

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<v Speaker 1>coming to the US, the US says that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>consider them eligible for asylum. The problem is that neither

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<v Speaker 1>does Mexico. In twenty twenty one, Mexico only approved less

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<v Speaker 1>than a quarter of asylum applications filed by Haitians, while

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time approving nearly all of those coming

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<v Speaker 1>from Venezuelans, and over eighty percent of applications submitted by

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<v Speaker 1>Endurance and Salvadorans. It seems there is no safe harbor,

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<v Speaker 1>no options if you are black, and if you are

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<v Speaker 1>a Haitian asylum seeker.

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<v Speaker 2>Lim So and your misspo Nimes and.

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<v Speaker 9>Is peli Rosso.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was Pais Maria Ufiello.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the ways that Fideline and I identify is

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<v Speaker 1>because we are both mothers. She tells me, she's so

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<v Speaker 1>worried about her daughters that she doesn't recognize this place.

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<v Speaker 1>The crime is so terrible, worse than when she left

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<v Speaker 1>a decade ago. She says, I'm worried for my girls

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<v Speaker 1>because this is hell. Haiti is still reeling from when

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<v Speaker 1>President Jovannel Moyce's assassination occurred. Last summer, they were hit

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<v Speaker 1>with back to back seven point two magnitude earthquakes and

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<v Speaker 1>a tropical storm that further devastated the country, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>it seems none of that is enough to trigger protection

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<v Speaker 1>for human beings. While Biden promised to institute a more

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<v Speaker 1>humane policy than his predecessor, harmful Trump era policies now

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<v Speaker 1>remain intact. After promising a review, the Biden administration once

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<v Speaker 1>again renewed Title forty two, which will continue to allow

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<v Speaker 1>the US to turn migrants back at the border, people

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<v Speaker 1>like Videlin and her family. Dozens of health experts have

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<v Speaker 1>spoken out about the hypocrisy of this action. After all,

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<v Speaker 1>migrants are no more likely to bring the coronavirus into

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<v Speaker 1>the United States than the thousands of travelers entering and

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<v Speaker 1>the country for tourism.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not driven by immigrants.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the problem within our country the same way

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<v Speaker 1>it's a problem with other countries throughout the world. But

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<v Speaker 1>on the third year of a worldwide pandemic, the reality

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<v Speaker 1>is that people are already coming, and the backlogs keep

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<v Speaker 1>getting longer and longer. Stuck in Mexico, people are getting

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<v Speaker 1>more desperate. Earlier this month, in an act of protest,

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<v Speaker 1>a dozen migrants stuck in Tapachula sewed their mouths shut

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<v Speaker 1>using needles and plastic thread. They said they hoped to

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<v Speaker 1>call attention to the inhumane conditions they endure as they

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<v Speaker 1>wait endlessly for documents in Mexico that would allow them

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<v Speaker 1>to continue north. As for the Felix's family, while twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two began inside a border patrol vehicle, Videlin, the

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<v Speaker 1>mom hasn't lost hope. Incredibly, she says, parents will do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever traveled to the end of the earth as many

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<v Speaker 1>times as it takes all for the well being of

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<v Speaker 1>their children as Si salvastrong is ands us.

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<v Speaker 7>Als quad kilsa and.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was produced by Juliata Martinelli and edited by

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<v Speaker 1>Andrea Lopez Crusado, Jamin Alfaro in Mexico and Carlo Dillelon

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<v Speaker 1>in Colombia, our associate producers. The episode was mixed by

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<v Speaker 1>Julia Caruso, J J. Krubin and Via Sha d'amroz. Production

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<v Speaker 1>helped by Alisa Reina and Monica Garcia. Visuals and production

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<v Speaker 1>assistants from Jurema Perees. The movie Border was co produced

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<v Speaker 1>with Futuro Unidad Ino Josa Investigations, which gets support from

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<v Speaker 1>the W. K.

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<v Speaker 2>Kellogg Foundation and Hispanics in Philanthropy.

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<v Speaker 1>The Latino USA team includes Marta Martinez, Mike Sargent, Victoria Stradra,

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<v Speaker 1>Julia Rocha, with help from Raoul Perez. Our editorial director

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<v Speaker 1>is Julio Ricardo Barella. Our director of engineering is Stefanie Lebau.

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<v Speaker 1>Our associate engineer is gabriel A. Biez, Our digital editor

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<v Speaker 1>is Luis Luna, our fellows Andrew Vignalis. Our theme music

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<v Speaker 1>was composed by Zane Robinos. I'm your host and executive

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<v Speaker 1>producer Marieojosa. Join us again on our next episode. In

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<v Speaker 1>the meantime, I'll see you on all of our social

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<v Speaker 1>media at g.

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<v Speaker 2>Latino, USA is made possible in part by W. K.

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