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<v Speaker 1>your love notes to Los Angeles, Miss Getty Dosi Getty

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<v Speaker 3>The church is like right across the street, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>right in front of it, and I still have difficulty,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, going past there. I get physically, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>feel well, my stomach gets tight. I get like an

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<v Speaker 3>anxiety attack when I see that big space where my

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<v Speaker 3>building used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>From futuro Media and PRX, it's Latino, USA. I'm Maria Josa.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we visit the community of Surfside, Florida, on the

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<v Speaker 1>first anniversary of a tragedy that's marked in our memories,

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<v Speaker 1>the Champlain Towers South condo collapse that killed ninety eight people,

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<v Speaker 1>including ten children. One year ago, this small beachside town

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<v Speaker 1>in South Florida was asleep. It was past one in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning. It was the beginning of summer June twenty fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>But suddenly the Champlain Tower South, a condo standing just

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<v Speaker 1>passed a sign that welcomed you to Serfside, started to move.

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<v Speaker 1>The pool deck went first looking like a Florida sinkhole,

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<v Speaker 1>and then at one twenty three am, the section of

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<v Speaker 1>the L shaped building that pointed to the beach collapsed.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve stories of apartments pancaked in about thirty seconds. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of the ninety eight people who died were Latinos and Latinas,

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<v Speaker 1>like a college couple both twenty one years old, who

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<v Speaker 1>were in town for a funeral, a twenty three year

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<v Speaker 1>old nanny traveling with the family of Paraguay's first lady

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<v Speaker 1>and three generations of an Argentine family who lived together

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<v Speaker 1>to mark the one year anniversary of the disaster. We're

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<v Speaker 1>visiting Surfside with producer Elisa Bayena. Her Cuban grandmother has

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<v Speaker 1>lived there for almost twenty years, and Elisa moved in

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<v Speaker 1>with her over two years ago at this start of

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic. Elisa brings us a story now about memory

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<v Speaker 1>community and how your relationship to a place can change

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<v Speaker 1>after a tragic event. From Surfside, Florida. Here's Elisa.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't mean juntas.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm getting into bed with my grandma Datty. That isn't

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<v Speaker 5>her actual name, It's Norah, but she is such a dathi.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm her first grandchild, so I named her that, Okay, Pata, Well,

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<v Speaker 5>that's making fun of me because I'm twenty three. I

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<v Speaker 5>want to get into bed with her. But cuddling up

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<v Speaker 5>next to my grandma as an adult makes me feel

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<v Speaker 5>like I'm her cheeky thika. Again. When I stayed at

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<v Speaker 5>her apartment in Surfside as a child, I used to

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<v Speaker 5>sleep in between her and my Grandpapapito outside the beach snored.

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<v Speaker 5>I could stare out at its blackness and white caps

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<v Speaker 5>and cruise ships were the only light. Dati had been

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<v Speaker 5>living alone for six years, ever since my Grandpapapito died,

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<v Speaker 5>but then I moved in with her. During the national

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<v Speaker 5>lockdown in March of twenty twenty, she said, if COVID

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<v Speaker 5>didn't kill her, the isolation would. So I came to

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<v Speaker 5>stay with her, and I'm still here.

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<v Speaker 6>And diama faliha, maybe what lost.

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<v Speaker 5>Dati has lived in Surfside for almost two decades. She

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<v Speaker 5>left Cuba in the early sixties with Bapito and their

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<v Speaker 5>first son, Jose. They had my Dad in New Jersey

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<v Speaker 5>three years later and moved to Miami when he was

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<v Speaker 5>an infant. In Miami, they raised my Dad and theo

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<v Speaker 5>Jose in a suburb called Westchester, where windows were dressed

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<v Speaker 5>in iron bars. But in Cuba, Dati and Papito lived

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<v Speaker 5>in Varadero and dreamed of having a home on the

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<v Speaker 5>beach again in exile. It would take them about forty years,

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<v Speaker 5>but they finally did it when they moved into this

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<v Speaker 5>apartment in Surfside. Surfside is a town on the northern

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<v Speaker 5>end of Miami Beach. It's a mostly middle class area,

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<v Speaker 5>but the town's origins are kind of bougie. A social

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<v Speaker 5>club called the Surf Club opened in nineteen thirty It

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<v Speaker 5>was built by Harvey Firestone, as in Firestone Tires, and

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<v Speaker 5>was designed like a Mediterranean estate, with beamed ceilings proportioned

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<v Speaker 5>for a cathedral. They unloaded cases of liquor onto the

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<v Speaker 5>beach during Prohibition and hosted fashion shows by the pool.

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<v Speaker 5>Some of their guests were the Duke and Duchess of Windsor,

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<v Speaker 5>Elizabeth Taylor, and there's photos of Winston Churchhill painting the

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<v Speaker 5>resort's cabanas. Surf Club members incorporated the area into the

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<v Speaker 5>city of Miami Beach in nineteen thirty five, when there

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<v Speaker 5>were only fifty residents compared to today's roughly six thousand.

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<v Speaker 5>The Surf Club is now a four seasons but most

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<v Speaker 5>of us who live here year round don't have four

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<v Speaker 5>seasons money. We live in one story homes on cramped

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<v Speaker 5>lots and art deco apartments saved from the forties and fifties.

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<v Speaker 5>The condos on the beach can only go up to

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<v Speaker 5>twelve stories, and most of them aren't flashy like ours

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<v Speaker 5>that was built in the late eighties. Our lobby has

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<v Speaker 5>framed prints that are creased by the humidity, and we

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<v Speaker 5>have fire ants by the hoses that wash the sand

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<v Speaker 5>off your feet. Our business and commercial district is just

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<v Speaker 5>two blocks. The writer Isaac Bashevis Singer, found out he

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<v Speaker 5>won the Nobel Prize in Literature while eating at a

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<v Speaker 5>diner inside the drug store. That drug store doesn't exist anymore,

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<v Speaker 5>but there's a kosher bakery, a salon where they filmed

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<v Speaker 5>scenes of the Real Housewives of Miami. I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>if to laugh, cry scream. I mean, this is so absurd,

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<v Speaker 5>and an Italian restaurant owned by the singer Ricardo montanaid.

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<v Speaker 5>During the week kids take surfing lessons and retired couples

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<v Speaker 5>sit and stare. But on the weekend, that's when families

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<v Speaker 5>bring out the beach tents, and meanwhile, feral cats lounge

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<v Speaker 5>under canopies of sea grapes. Everyone here will tell you

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<v Speaker 5>that Dati is a beautiful lady. She has green eyes

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<v Speaker 5>that people remember her by, and a gap in her

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<v Speaker 5>front teeth. Like Celia Caruz. Her skin is covered in

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<v Speaker 5>sun spots and moles from growing up in Baradero. She

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<v Speaker 5>calls it her print.

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<v Speaker 6>Then print kisor Tabano isleta form e la man la.

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<v Speaker 5>Dati's print kept her from the beach because she was

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<v Speaker 5>afraid of the sun. So Bapito is the one who

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<v Speaker 5>took my siblings in me. He taught us how to

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<v Speaker 5>break up big waves. He showed us that if you

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<v Speaker 5>turn to the side, they won't knock you down. Dat's

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<v Speaker 5>always telling me that surfside has nothing on.

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<v Speaker 6>Baradero Joe vahalam player.

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<v Speaker 5>I think she sounds like a Cuban snob when she

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<v Speaker 5>says that, but I get it. This speech is man made.

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<v Speaker 5>None of us should be here. But she has been

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<v Speaker 5>happy in Surfside because of the friends she's made. Their

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<v Speaker 5>retirees from up North, Orthodox Jews, Latin American immigrants polls.

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<v Speaker 5>When Babido was alive, he would play dominoes in the

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<v Speaker 5>mezzanine and talk for hours with our neighbors in the pool.

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<v Speaker 5>Dati doesn't speak English fluently, so she communicates her guardigno

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<v Speaker 5>to our English speaking neighbors by touching their arms and

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<v Speaker 5>sharing a pastica she makes with cream cheese, almonds and red.

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<v Speaker 6>Pepperria okay gor toyo group ingle Jobria was like Evasi.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, maybe it's weird that I'm living with my grandma

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<v Speaker 5>in my twenties, but can you blame me?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, She's fine, and I'm right on the beach.

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<v Speaker 5>If my windows are open, the beach feels like it's

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<v Speaker 5>pressed up against me. I can smell it's breath. A

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<v Speaker 5>year ago, in the early hours of June twenty fourth day,

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<v Speaker 5>was at the apartment alone because I was traveling. It

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<v Speaker 5>was past one a m. And she was praying the

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<v Speaker 5>Rosary because she couldn't sleep. The candle under her picture

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<v Speaker 5>of Jesus was still burning, and then she heard an explosion.

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<v Speaker 5>She thought it was a bomb or maybe an airplane

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<v Speaker 5>that crashed into a building. She never ended up falling

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<v Speaker 5>asleep that night. Six blocks away, another Cuban named Maria

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<v Speaker 5>Ileana montagu she goes by. Ileana was asleep in her

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<v Speaker 5>apartment at the Champlain Tower South. She's in her mid sixties,

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<v Speaker 5>like that was when she moved to Surfside, and she's

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<v Speaker 5>una Senora. Like her nails are done, her lips are lined.

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<v Speaker 5>She went there's linen. Forty years ago, Ileana watched the

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<v Speaker 5>construction of the Champlain Towers South while bathing in the beach.

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<v Speaker 5>She thought it would be a nice place to live.

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<v Speaker 7>One day you sent you get Avireki.

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<v Speaker 5>She finally moved into the building six months before it disappeared.

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<v Speaker 5>Her son lived with her, but she was also alone

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<v Speaker 5>that night because he was staying with his girlfriend. She

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<v Speaker 5>was in a deep sleep when she was awakened by

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<v Speaker 5>a force that felt supernatural.

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<v Speaker 7>Ruidos avaloual burg a toruerla sala.

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<v Speaker 5>So once she's awake, she's like, oh my god, is

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<v Speaker 5>there like a ghost in this house or something. She

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<v Speaker 5>then gets out of bed and goes to the living

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<v Speaker 5>room to see if maybe a sliding glass door was open.

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<v Speaker 5>It turns out a door was open. As she's trying

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<v Speaker 5>to close it, she hears another crunch, this one is

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<v Speaker 5>louder them.

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<v Speaker 8>Handle.

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<v Speaker 5>When she turns to look, she sees a crack splitting

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<v Speaker 5>the wall in two, and that's when a voice in

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<v Speaker 5>her head started talking to her, run this building is

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<v Speaker 5>going to fall. She quickly changed into a dress and

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<v Speaker 5>flip flops before running out of her apartment. She grabbed

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<v Speaker 5>her credit cards and some jewelry she had left in

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<v Speaker 5>the dining room table the night before. The last thing

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<v Speaker 5>she did was blow out her candle for La Vidhin.

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<v Speaker 7>De a a borganar Tempocato mal Quin del PASII.

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<v Speaker 5>There was a stairwell a few feet to the right

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<v Speaker 5>of her unit, and that would have been a more

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<v Speaker 5>obvious choice if she wanted to save time, but no,

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<v Speaker 5>the voice sent her to the left, down the hall,

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<v Speaker 5>past the elevators, to the other stairwell.

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<v Speaker 7>You Infernald.

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<v Speaker 5>She had only come down two flights of stairs when

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<v Speaker 5>she heard what she describes as an infernal explosion. She

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<v Speaker 5>just knew it. The building was coming down. A twelve

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<v Speaker 5>story beachfront condo and Surfside abruptly collapsed early this morning.

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<v Speaker 9>We still don't know how many people are missing.

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<v Speaker 5>At least one person has died. Hearing the news of

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<v Speaker 5>the collapse was surreal. I just kept thinking, like, how

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<v Speaker 5>did a condo fall, and of all places, why did

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<v Speaker 5>it fall in Surfside. I was working from home and

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<v Speaker 5>could barely focus, knowing that blocks away there were people

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<v Speaker 5>trapped under millions of pounds of concrete, and it was

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<v Speaker 5>the summer on the beach. It kept raining and it

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<v Speaker 5>was sometimes ninety degrees, but fire and rescue teams were

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<v Speaker 5>working around the clock to save anyone who might still

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<v Speaker 5>be alive. I didn't even want to see the pile

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<v Speaker 5>of rubble if I went for a walk on the

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<v Speaker 5>beach path. Instead of going south toward the building, I

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<v Speaker 5>went north. Maybe I learned this from my grandparents. They

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<v Speaker 5>never returned to Cuba to see its ruins. Under a regime.

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<v Speaker 5>They fled. They thought they were better off protecting their

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<v Speaker 5>memories as they'd kept them, and didn't want to look back.

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<v Speaker 5>Illana told me that when she was finally able to

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<v Speaker 5>about a guid named Lot. God was going to destroy

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<v Speaker 5>the city he lived in, but he wanted to save

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<v Speaker 5>Lot and his family, so two angels led them out

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<v Speaker 5>of the city and gave them these instructions, s flee

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<v Speaker 5>for your lives, but don't look back. When the sun rose,

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<v Speaker 5>God brought down a fiery, sulfurous raging, destroying the cities

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<v Speaker 5>of Sodom and Gomorrah and killing everyone who lived there.

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<v Speaker 5>But Lot's wife wanted to see the burning landscape behind her,

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<v Speaker 5>and she disobeyed. When she turned to look, she became

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back. We hear more from members of

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<v Speaker 1>the community who are reconciling their town's identity and their

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<v Speaker 1>collective trauma as a result of the collapse, and survivors

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<v Speaker 1>tell us how they're doing one year after losing everything

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<v Speaker 1>but their lives stay with us. Yes, hey, we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the break, we met Elisa's Abuela and Leanna, another

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<v Speaker 1>Cuban exile who survived the collapse of the Champlain Towers South.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Elisa once again with the rest of the story.

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<v Speaker 5>Father Juan Sosa slept through the collapse. He's the pastor

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<v Speaker 5>of Saint Joseph Catholic Church, which is the parish that

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<v Speaker 5>he belongs to. The Champlain Towers South site was close

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<v Speaker 5>enough that you could see from outside the church rectory

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<v Speaker 10>I was ready to do my morning walk on the

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<v Speaker 10>beach when I heard all kinds of sirens and noises

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<v Speaker 10>and trucks moving in and out of the area, and

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<v Speaker 10>I thought there had been an accident. And then as

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<v Speaker 10>I began to walk my usual route, I noticed that

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<v Speaker 10>that route was blocked. When we got to the beach,

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<v Speaker 10>there was a bunch of people's so I moved over

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<v Speaker 10>to them. And I met some parishioners, and then I

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<v Speaker 10>beheld the entire collapse.

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<v Speaker 5>He started calling everyone he knew who lived in the building,

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<v Speaker 5>like friends and parishioners, but no one was answering. So

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<v Speaker 5>then he checked the church records and counted twelve families

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<v Speaker 5>who listed the Champlain Towers South as their address. He

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<v Speaker 5>found out that two of those families no longer lived there,

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<v Speaker 5>and eight families were missing. Two others were safe. One

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<v Speaker 5>was the Lopez family.

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<v Speaker 3>What is your grandma's name?

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<v Speaker 5>My grandma's name is Nora Baiana.

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<v Speaker 8>She goes to the Spanish Mass.

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<v Speaker 5>You both go to ten.

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<v Speaker 8>Am, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Marian Smeraldi Lopez called me one evening in early May

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<v Speaker 5>with her husband Alfredo. Alfredo was born in Bogota and

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<v Speaker 5>Marian is from Brooklyn, but they moved to South Florida

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<v Speaker 5>in the late nineties when alfreddo had to relocate for

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<v Speaker 11>Our first choice was to look for a place that

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<v Speaker 11>had a good school system and had a beach. Well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>and that basically led us to Serve sign.

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<v Speaker 5>They lived with her son on the sixth floor of

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<v Speaker 5>the Champlain Towers South for twenty three years. Most of

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<v Speaker 5>their son's life.

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<v Speaker 3>I woke up to the apartment, you know, shaking.

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<v Speaker 8>I was bound, like actually bouncing in the bed.

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<v Speaker 11>We heard a noise, but I thought was like an explosion.

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<v Speaker 5>That first sound was the pool deck collapsing into the garage, and.

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<v Speaker 11>I remember Marion saying, you know, it's probably only like

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<v Speaker 11>a bad, you know, bad storm or something. And before

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<v Speaker 11>she could finish saying that, then we heard a huge,

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<v Speaker 11>a much louder explosion.

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<v Speaker 5>When Alfredo opened his front door out to the hallway,

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<v Speaker 5>he was startled by the breeze from the beach.

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<v Speaker 11>To the left of me, which is on the north side,

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<v Speaker 11>was our neighbor, Estelle, and she was an apartment six

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<v Speaker 11>oh four, and there was no apartment there. There was

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<v Speaker 11>no apartment six soh three, six oh two, six oh one,

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<v Speaker 11>six eleven, Yeah, the whole hallway.

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<v Speaker 5>Eleanna, the Cuban exile we heard from in the first

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<v Speaker 5>part of the show, lived in unit six eleven her apartment.

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<v Speaker 11>By the time that we got out, her apartment disappeared,

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<v Speaker 11>So you know how she got out that night. I

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<v Speaker 11>just don't know how she did that. I don't know

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<v Speaker 11>how she did that.

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<v Speaker 5>Eleanna couldn't know it, but following the voice in her

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<v Speaker 5>head that sent her to the stairs furthest from her

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<v Speaker 5>apartment saved her life. If she would have taken the

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<v Speaker 5>stairs closest to her, she would have and crushed by.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Leanna is still stunned by the coincidences. But my grandma

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<v Speaker 5>told me that there's no such thing as only gau salidal.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a play on words in Spanish meaning there are

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<v Speaker 5>no coincidences, just chains of events reactions.

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<v Speaker 12>So my name is Hilary Feldman and I am a psychologist.

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<v Speaker 5>Hillary is trained to respond to traumatic events. She lives

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<v Speaker 5>on the top floor of my building, and even though

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<v Speaker 5>I hadn't met her until now, I recognized her from

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<v Speaker 5>the beach. Yes, no, now that you say that she's

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<v Speaker 5>always there, that my black and white Strea. The morning

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<v Speaker 5>of the collapse, Hillary walked over to the Surfside Community Center,

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<v Speaker 5>which is on our block, but be those used to

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<v Speaker 5>take me to the pool. There it was being used

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<v Speaker 5>as a reunification center for residents who were evacuated and

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<v Speaker 5>the families of those who were unaccounted for. A vacation

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<v Speaker 5>rental next door to the Champlain Towers South was also evacuated,

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<v Speaker 5>and Hillary noticed that no one was helping that group.

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<v Speaker 12>I just went around the room too as many people

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<v Speaker 12>as I could, just saying that I was a community member,

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<v Speaker 12>I was a psychologist, and just wanted to find out

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<v Speaker 12>how they were doing.

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<v Speaker 5>Still, Hillary felt like there was more she could be doing,

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<v Speaker 5>so she signed up for the Red Cross and now

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<v Speaker 5>volunteers as a disaster mental health worker. She remembers that

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<v Speaker 5>it was a busy time in Surfside and the media

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't always welcome.

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<v Speaker 12>We were flooded right for several weeks, and one hand,

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<v Speaker 12>it's important to be able to talk about it, and

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<v Speaker 12>on the other hand, it's difficult because it's like, are

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<v Speaker 12>they being there just to sort of like, oh, we

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<v Speaker 12>of this tragedy, Let's talk about the tragedy, and then

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<v Speaker 12>you knew that they were going to disappear afterwards.

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<v Speaker 5>Badri Solsa understood why the media should try to make

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<v Speaker 5>sense of what happened in real time, but it was

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<v Speaker 5>exhausting to him and the community.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, we were constantly hit by media. We were kind

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<v Speaker 10>of tired. At the end of the day. I just

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<v Speaker 5>As the bodies of former parishioners were recovered and identified

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<v Speaker 5>Badri Sosa then occupied another public role that the media

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to cover too, and.

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<v Speaker 10>Then the funerals began. The funerals did not become private

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<v Speaker 10>events as you and I know, they became public events

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<v Speaker 10>for me as the priest our pastor of the area.

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<v Speaker 10>Was something that had to be done and I did

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<v Speaker 10>the best I could.

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<v Speaker 5>He gave the funeral mass for the Guada family, mom,

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<v Speaker 10>More than ever before they are and all the ones

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<v Speaker 10>who haven't been found yet, members of our parish who

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<v Speaker 10>are still missed.

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<v Speaker 5>Bas He also participated in the service for ninety two

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<v Speaker 5>year old Ilda Noriega. Ilda lived across the hall from Iliana,

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<v Speaker 5>the Cuban survivor. She remembers Ilda as an adorable yehita

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<v Speaker 5>whose hearing was really bad.

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<v Speaker 7>Y yes.

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<v Speaker 5>Ileana is now living about ten minutes it's away from

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<v Speaker 5>surfside at another condo on Miami Beach, is.

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<v Speaker 7>Miami.

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<v Speaker 5>She's working at an assisted living facility to get out

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<v Speaker 5>of the house and also because she needs the money.

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<v Speaker 5>She's sixty five and this is the first time in

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<v Speaker 5>her life that she's needed a job. Her ex husband

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<v Speaker 5>didn't want her to work while they were raising their kids.

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<v Speaker 7>Etal.

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<v Speaker 5>She's had a comfortable life overall, even when she lived

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<v Speaker 5>under a communist regime. She would travel often and if

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<v Speaker 5>she wanted to buy a designer bag, she could, But

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<v Speaker 5>when her apartment came down, it swallowed everything she owned.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, yuvachico aura parranquila. It okay.

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<v Speaker 5>When she came from Cuba, she only had a suitcase,

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<v Speaker 5>but she was a young mother and full of hope

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<v Speaker 5>for what her life would be like in a free country.

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<v Speaker 5>Now she doesn't have enough to fill a suitcase. The

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<v Speaker 5>loss she's experienced is so overwhelming that some days she

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<v Speaker 7>To Irigoa Maris del Mono leant animo altimento meni mi.

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<v Speaker 5>Ileana tells me, I don't know what to do other

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<v Speaker 5>than to try to live every day, and I want

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<v Speaker 5>to have a motivation to live. But right now it's minimal.

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<v Speaker 7>Tran but it said Opera.

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<v Speaker 5>There are pieces of her life that she feels she's

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<v Speaker 5>lost too. She no longer has pictures of her parents

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<v Speaker 5>or her kids when they were young.

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<v Speaker 8>The Lord.

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<v Speaker 5>She doesn't want to live here anymore because she doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>feel safe, but leaving will still be painful. Miami Beach

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<v Speaker 5>has been her home since she came from Cuba over

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<v Speaker 5>forty years ago. Even if she did want to stay,

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<v Speaker 5>Iliana can't afford the real estate. Miami Dade County's mayor

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<v Speaker 5>recently declared we are in a county wide affordability crisis.

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<v Speaker 5>Less than two years ago, Ileana bought her apartment for

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<v Speaker 5>about six hundred thousand dollars. Now, beachfront units and older

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<v Speaker 5>buildings can go for one million or more. She's still

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<v Speaker 5>waiting to receive funds from a ninety six million dollar

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<v Speaker 5>settlement that will be divided among surviving unit owners. Ninety

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<v Speaker 5>six million sounds like a lot, but Ileana expects to

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<v Speaker 5>get less than market value for the unit she lost

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<v Speaker 5>in the luxury condo next door to the collapse site,

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<v Speaker 5>an apartment recently sold for six point two million dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>I will leave Miami Beach at the end of August.

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<v Speaker 8>How are you good?

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks God good. I met Rolling Pin Bakery on a

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<v Speaker 5>Friday morning in June.

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<v Speaker 1>BlackBerry does cherry and you said.

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<v Speaker 5>It's their busiest day of the week before Shabbat and

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<v Speaker 5>regulars are picking up their orders of hala and bagels

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<v Speaker 5>for the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>CEO named bana Aki.

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<v Speaker 5>Samuel Aravenna was born in the Argentinian Patagonia and has

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<v Speaker 5>been living in Miami since his early twenties. That's why

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<v Speaker 5>he says he doesn't have an Argentinian accent anymore. He's

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<v Speaker 5>been at the bakery for twenty one years, first does

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<v Speaker 5>an employee and now as the.

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<v Speaker 2>Owner Familia I'm bravio.

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<v Speaker 10>Can't take it.

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<v Speaker 5>He says. Between twenty five and thirty of the victims

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<v Speaker 5>were his customers. He didn't know them all by name,

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<v Speaker 5>but he and his staff recognized their faces when their

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<v Speaker 5>pictures were posted on the surf side wall of Hope.

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<v Speaker 5>That was a chain link fence where people hung flowers

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<v Speaker 5>and mementoes. While search and rescue looked for signs of

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<v Speaker 5>life in the pile of rubble. They demolished the part

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<v Speaker 5>of the building that was still standing. On the fourth

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<v Speaker 5>of July. The town's fireworks were canceled and instead we

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<v Speaker 5>got a plume of dust. A few days later, exactly

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<v Speaker 5>two weeks after the collapse, authorities announced the transition from

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<v Speaker 5>rescue to recovery. There was no hope they would find

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<v Speaker 5>more survivors.

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<v Speaker 13>Caalmagyanaki Camino.

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<v Speaker 11>Y pis.

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<v Speaker 5>Another one of Samuel's regulars was Una Senora, who bought

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<v Speaker 5>passava every morning. She was always giving them feedback on

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<v Speaker 5>their pastelitos. They really miss her. It was a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of loss to absorb at once. Sam Wiles didn't realize

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<v Speaker 5>he was depressed until two or three weeks after the collapse.

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<v Speaker 5>He had been staying busy at the bakery to donate

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<v Speaker 5>to first responders, survivors and victims family members.

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<v Speaker 11>Are you that.

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<v Speaker 8>Cambion media.

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<v Speaker 5>Serving the community made him feel like he was part

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<v Speaker 5>of the collective grieving process. It changed him, he says,

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<v Speaker 5>And it's visible at the bakery when I visited. On

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<v Speaker 5>the shelves behind him, there were boxes of bread and

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<v Speaker 5>pastries that were going to be delivered to a homeless

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<v Speaker 5>shelter the next day. And Rolling Pin still has a

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<v Speaker 5>sign that reads Surfside Strong. Samuel hung it the week

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<v Speaker 5>after the collapse. He still wears a white T shirt

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<v Speaker 5>with the same slogan.

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<v Speaker 2>L a Brende ham Brende Paso. He know he's song Gueco,

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<v Speaker 2>Samuel says.

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<v Speaker 5>The sadness is there, you learn to live with it.

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<v Speaker 5>It happened and it left a hole in all of us,

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<v Speaker 5>But with time where he Since they cleared out the rubble,

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<v Speaker 5>the site has been empty. The rebar at the top

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<v Speaker 5>of free standing columns is frozen in year old convulsions.

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<v Speaker 5>The beach grass behind the towers was trampled in the

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<v Speaker 5>aftermath of the collapse, and they replanted it. The new

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<v Speaker 5>plants are still babies, but I've seen them grow over

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<v Speaker 5>the last year. Hillary, the psychologist and Red Cross volunteer,

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<v Speaker 5>goes on daily walks by the site.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't think healing ever stops ever. But I think

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<v Speaker 12>though that as long as there are these significant issues,

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<v Speaker 12>as long as you also have a hole in the ground,

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<v Speaker 12>it makes it certainly a barrier from moving forward.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's Marian again, the survivor and parishioner from Saint Joseph

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<v Speaker 5>that we heard from earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>The church is like right across the street, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>right in front of it, right and I still have difficulty,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, going past there. I get physically, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>don't feel well, my stomach gets tight, I get like

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<v Speaker 3>an anxiety attack when I see that big space where

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<v Speaker 3>my building used to be.

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<v Speaker 5>The National Institute of Standards and Technology is still investigating

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<v Speaker 5>why the building failed, so there's still no official explanation.

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<v Speaker 12>And one of the things that I think about in

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<v Speaker 12>terms of trauma is, you know, you have to get

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<v Speaker 12>to a point of safety. There's still a piece of me,

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<v Speaker 12>and I probably will always be a piece of me

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<v Speaker 12>that's not going to feel one hundred percent safe.

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<v Speaker 5>The Lopez family has been receiving trauma therapy. When other

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<v Speaker 5>survivors started talking about PTSD, Alfredo texted his therapist because

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<v Speaker 5>he wanted to know if he had been diagnosed with PTSD.

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<v Speaker 11>She said, in a big way, a big way.

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<v Speaker 5>Still, Marian believes they're doing better.

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<v Speaker 3>Thousand percent better place than I was. I mean for months,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I was just like in a daze. I

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<v Speaker 3>felt like I was living a like what do you

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<v Speaker 3>call that? Like another dimension.

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<v Speaker 5>It's unlikely that they'll be able to buy a home

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<v Speaker 5>and surfside again, but they hope they can eventually live

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<v Speaker 5>somewhere that isn't too far from the beach, because that's home.

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<v Speaker 3>Our best memories are of the beach.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean beach.

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<v Speaker 3>My husband is a beach bunny. I call him a

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<v Speaker 3>beach bunny every Sunday after church. He was down on

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<v Speaker 3>that beach. That was my life then and this is now.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to create something new.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that we can be as attached to our

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<v Speaker 5>memories of a place as the place itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Friendly, very casual, very safetown, kind of quiet.

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<v Speaker 5>So when a tragic event invades our memory of a

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<v Speaker 5>place and what it represents to us, there can be

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<v Speaker 5>a feeling of loss too.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't think that it makes it all negative. I

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<v Speaker 12>just think it makes it different and maybe even a

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<v Speaker 12>little bit more, because you're feeling like you're part of

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<v Speaker 12>something fits changing or changed, so you can form more relationships,

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<v Speaker 12>you can form better relationships. But this is still going

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<v Speaker 12>to be part of you moving forward.

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<v Speaker 5>The site where the building once stood was sold to

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<v Speaker 5>a developer for one hundred and twenty million dollars, so

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<v Speaker 5>the town, with a committee of victims family members, is

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<v Speaker 5>planning to build a memorial nearby. The community still sees

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<v Speaker 5>the site as a sacred place, though, even if it

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<v Speaker 5>won't be marked as.

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<v Speaker 4>One find you see, we're gonna mon Idea.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm back in bed with my Grandma Tatia. That's at

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<v Speaker 5>night is when I think about my Grandpa Pabo the

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<v Speaker 5>most h Yes, Bapito died unexpectedly when I was sixteen,

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<v Speaker 5>and that was a wave. I couldn't break. For years,

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<v Speaker 5>I associated Surfside with his loss and didn't want to

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<v Speaker 5>be here. But since I've been living with Dati, this

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<v Speaker 5>place has given my memories a kind of continuity.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Surfside Beach will never be A billion dollars of settlement money,

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<v Speaker 5>won't bring back the neighbors we lost, but still we remember.

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<v Speaker 5>This episode was produced in memory of Francis Placentia, Margharita Vasquez,

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<v Speaker 5>Byo Rosa, Saiz, Vishan Patel, Bavna Patel, Isshanni Patel.

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<v Speaker 6>Edgar Gonzalez, Beatrice Perra, malielenal Gonzolo, Maria.

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<v Speaker 12>Michael Altman, Ingrid Ainsworth, City Ainsworth, Gary Cohen, At Cohen,

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<v Speaker 12>Gloria Machado.

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<v Speaker 6>Sophia, Lope Morera, Louis pet Then Hill, Alexia, Maria Pettnhill,

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<v Speaker 6>de Serro, be Then, Lope Morera.

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<v Speaker 8>And Emi, Lucia Guarda and Maarda, Fabia Cofia.

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Rosenberg, Lisa Weiss, Benny Weiss, Arnold Dudkin Medium, Caspi Dodkin,

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<v Speaker 8>Manuela fond One More Junior, who is my Era.

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<v Speaker 1>Our piece was produced by Elisa Byena and edited by

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