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<v Speaker 1>I think someone we know isn't here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and we know this person, I think pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Wednesday morning in June. The Smithsonian's National Museum

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<v Speaker 2>of American History in Washington, DC is mostly empty right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Its doors won't open to the public for another hour

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<v Speaker 2>and a half. But my colleague Alexandra Salasard and I

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<v Speaker 2>cut early access today, so we're here, and so is

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<v Speaker 2>our boss. Well kind of yeah, that's Maria.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>She's standing there with hoop earrings and her red lipstick.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so she isn't actually here here, but she's on

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<v Speaker 1>a screen in front of us, dressed in a black

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<v Speaker 1>jump student heels, welcoming us to a groundbreaking new exhibition

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<v Speaker 1>called Presente a Latino History of the United States. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm standing here with Ray, my colleague. You just

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<v Speaker 1>heard from Renaldo Lanos Junior, and we're face to face

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<v Speaker 1>with the life size video of Marie no Josa.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Maria.

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<v Speaker 2>Maria is one of about a dozen Latinos and Latinas

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<v Speaker 2>featured in this exhibition for their work in the Latino community.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm she pops up on screens in the center of

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<v Speaker 2>the gallery space, along with others a nurse, an immigration activist.

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<v Speaker 2>Other journalists like her.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of funny. We usually don't have Maria watching

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<v Speaker 1>us while we're out working as producers for Latino USA.

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<v Speaker 2>Vicente's house in the Molina Latino Family Gallery. It's in

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<v Speaker 2>the Museum of American History, and it's the Smithsonian's first

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<v Speaker 2>permanent space dedicated to the Latino experience in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>That alone is something remarkable. But we're here to cover

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<v Speaker 2>the opening of the show mainly because it's a precursor

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<v Speaker 2>of something big to come.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you all for being here today and helping us

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<v Speaker 5>celebrate this moment. To stay today, we celebrate this new gallery,

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<v Speaker 5>and soon we'll celebrate an entire museum dedicate to the

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<v Speaker 5>rich and vibrant history of the American Latino.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Corges Amnillo. He's the inaugural director of the upcoming museum.

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<v Speaker 1>He's talking about the Smithsonian's National Museum of the American Latino,

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<v Speaker 1>and Presente is a major step towards that museum.

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<v Speaker 5>Like our democracy, we're all part of this new museum.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope you enjoy the exhibit, and due course, I

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<v Speaker 5>look forward to seeing you all at the new National

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<v Speaker 5>Museum of the American Latino. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>Fro Fudro Media and RX It's Latino USA. I'm Maria

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<v Speaker 6>jo Jrosa. Today we trace the origins of the National

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<v Speaker 6>Museum of the American Latino and how it's starting to

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<v Speaker 6>take shape. Museums are political spaces. They carry a big

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<v Speaker 6>responsibility to decide which stories and artifacts to preserve across generation.

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<v Speaker 6>Over time, they helped define our social and cultural identities.

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<v Speaker 6>The Smithsonian Institution is no exception, home to some of

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<v Speaker 6>our biggest national museums. The Smithsonian strives to capture the

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<v Speaker 6>history and culture of the entire United States, but that's

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<v Speaker 6>easier said than done. The institution has repeatedly failed to

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<v Speaker 6>fulfill its mission in the past, especially when it comes

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<v Speaker 6>to honoring and spotlighting black, Brown, Asian, and Indigenous people. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>nearly two centuries after the Smithsonian was founded, its roster

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<v Speaker 6>is expanding to include the National Museum of the American Latino.

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<v Speaker 6>Getting here was decades in the making. In nineteen ninety four,

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<v Speaker 6>the Smithsonian released a report called Willful Neglect, which found

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<v Speaker 6>that Latinos and Latinas were left out in nearly every

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<v Speaker 6>aspect of the Smithsonian's operation. The report made waves, and

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<v Speaker 6>it sparked a campaign to create a national museum for

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<v Speaker 6>Latinos and Latinas. After two decades, in late twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 6>Congress finally approved the creation of the National Museum of

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<v Speaker 6>the American Latino. The National Museum of the American Latino

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't even have a building yet, and it's not expected

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<v Speaker 6>to open to the public for at least another decade.

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<v Speaker 6>But the museum is already making moves. A founding director,

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<v Speaker 6>a board, and some core staff have been hired, and

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<v Speaker 6>it's even debuted its first show. It's already creating a

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<v Speaker 6>foundation that the rest of the institution will be built

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<v Speaker 6>off of, and that calls for some scrutiny.

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<v Speaker 2>Full disclosure.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I was interviewed and featured in the museum's latest show, Precente,

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<v Speaker 6>because of my work as a Latina journalist, but I

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<v Speaker 6>haven't been involved with the project in any other way,

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<v Speaker 6>and neither has my team, and I haven't been involved

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<v Speaker 6>in reporting out this story. So with that said, how

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<v Speaker 6>do you create a National Latino Museum? Latino USA producers

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<v Speaker 6>Alexandra Salasad and Reinaldo Junior trace how years of advocacy

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<v Speaker 6>led us to this moment. And they're going to explore

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<v Speaker 6>how the museum takes its first steps towards becoming a reality.

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<v Speaker 1>We walk into the Smithsonian's Museum of American History and

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<v Speaker 1>we're welcomed by the word Precente. It's in all caps,

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<v Speaker 1>cut out of a large black panel at the entrance

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<v Speaker 1>of Molina Gallery. Precenta's mission is to showcase how Latino

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<v Speaker 1>history is American history. That's a significant challenge, and the

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<v Speaker 1>show's ambition becomes even clearer when we go inside because

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<v Speaker 1>the gallery isn't that big. It's basically one large room,

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<v Speaker 1>a modest size for a gallery meant to tell centries

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<v Speaker 1>of LATINX narratives. Colorful artifacts hang on the wall. The

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<v Speaker 1>first piece that greets us is this bright red dance

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<v Speaker 1>outfit from New Mexico used in ceremonies honoring Native people

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<v Speaker 7>And this is like this really beautiful dress with fringe

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<v Speaker 7>and feathers.

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<v Speaker 2>And beadwork behind it. There's like, you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>videoplane of people who are you know, who are dancing

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<v Speaker 2>and playing with some of their music as well.

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<v Speaker 3>More.

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<v Speaker 1>Items, over two hundred of them placed around the gallery

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<v Speaker 1>tell stories of migration, colonialism, political movements and LATINX culture.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a registration form from eighteen sixty seven for Enslaved

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<v Speaker 1>Persons in Puerto Rico. A nineteenth century printing press evoking

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<v Speaker 1>the work of LATINX journalists and writers who documented historic

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<v Speaker 1>moments like the Mexican American War. Tiny makeshift raft made

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<v Speaker 1>of found materials like wood and styrofoam. Cuban refugee used

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<v Speaker 1>it to make a two hundred and fifteen mile journey

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<v Speaker 1>to the US back in the nineties. An old skateboard

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<v Speaker 1>and vintage punk music records. A backpack and sneakers worn

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<v Speaker 1>by migrants, construction hats and graduation caps, protest signs, and

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<v Speaker 1>statuettes of Catholic saints. In other settings, these pieces might

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<v Speaker 1>be dismissed as small everyday items. Now they sit under

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<v Speaker 1>spotlights in a national gallery space, each offering a small

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<v Speaker 1>gateway to another person's life. Ray and I walk up

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<v Speaker 1>to a sculpture. As we take in the piece, we

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<v Speaker 1>get to speak with Henry Munos, the chairman of the

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<v Speaker 1>board for the National Museum of the American Latino.

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<v Speaker 4>If you made me pick one thing in this entire gallery,

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<v Speaker 4>I would pick the Tree of Life by Mayestra Edonica Castillo.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>The Tree of Life arbol de la vida in Spanish

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<v Speaker 1>Lada is a popular kind of sculpture found throughout Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>and inspired by the Biblical Tree of Life. Betonica's version

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<v Speaker 1>here looks like a multi colored skeleton of a tree

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<v Speaker 1>made of clay. Small figurines of LATINX icon's rest on

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<v Speaker 1>its branches, like labor organizers the Lorees Wuerta and Emmatena Yuka,

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court Justice Sonya Soto, major baseball player Mariano Rivera,

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<v Speaker 1>artist Anna Mendieta.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think it's fantastic. It's got the LGBTQ community.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at the astronauts. The storytelling is just fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Henry has been involved with public efforts to create a

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<v Speaker 1>national LATINX museum for close to thirty years, basically since

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<v Speaker 1>the Wilful Neglect Report revealed the lack of Latinx representation

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<v Speaker 1>within the Smithsonian.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm one of those people who's been waiting five hundred

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<v Speaker 4>years for this to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Henri's frustration over the slow moving process of making a

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<v Speaker 1>new museum echoes across the Smithsonian's history for example, the

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<v Speaker 1>creation of the Smithsonian's National Museum of the American Indian

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't approved until November nineteen eighty nine, Yes, nineteen eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>For more than a decade prior, Native American tribes and

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<v Speaker 1>activists were publicly calling out museums across the country for

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<v Speaker 1>stealing the bones and artifacts of their ancestors. At the

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<v Speaker 1>center of it all was the Smithsonian, which was holding

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<v Speaker 1>the skeletal remains of approximately eighteen thousand Native Americans. In

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<v Speaker 1>September nineteen eighty nine, the Smithsonian finally agreed to repatriat

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<v Speaker 1>remains to their respective tribes, a process that's still ongoing today.

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<v Speaker 1>That same year, legislation to create a National Museum of

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<v Speaker 1>the American Indian under the Smithsonian was introduced and passed

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<v Speaker 1>in Congress. Fifteen years later, in two thousand and four,

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<v Speaker 1>the museum in Washington, d c. Finally opened its doors.

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<v Speaker 1>Following generations of exclusion and theft from Native Americans, it

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<v Speaker 1>took the institution about one hundred and fifty years to

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<v Speaker 1>highlight the people whose land its museums stand on to

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<v Speaker 1>begin with. Another example is the most recent Smithsonian museum,

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<v Speaker 1>the National Museum of African American history and culture literally

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<v Speaker 1>took a century to become a reality. Black Civil War

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<v Speaker 1>veterans proposed the idea for a monument or memorial for

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<v Speaker 1>African Americans in nineteen fifteen, and a bill was introduced

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<v Speaker 1>to Congress a year later, but the idea would take

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<v Speaker 1>years to garner political support, and even when it looked

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<v Speaker 1>like it might happen every few decades or so, Congress

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't allot enough funding to the project. An iteration of

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<v Speaker 1>that legislation with partial funding was finally approved by Congress

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and three, and the museum opened to

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<v Speaker 1>the public over a decade later in twenty sixteen. Like

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<v Speaker 1>these other museums, Henry believes a National Latino Museum is

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to capture the very and varied roles Latinos

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<v Speaker 1>have played in shaping this country.

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<v Speaker 4>Our people have been here since before there was a

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<v Speaker 4>United States of America, and so this gallery has an

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity to create cultural understanding at a moment in our

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<v Speaker 4>country's history where we really need it.

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<v Speaker 1>Henry has spent decades working with the Smithsonian. He served

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<v Speaker 1>on its national Board, and he eventually became the chairman

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<v Speaker 1>of the Latino Center. The Smithsonian's response to its infamous report.

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<v Speaker 1>Henry's a big donor too. His name is on the

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<v Speaker 1>wall at the entrance of the Precenta exhibition. It represents

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<v Speaker 1>what he's been advocating for all these years.

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<v Speaker 4>So the fact that it took, you know, thirty years

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<v Speaker 4>of educating not just the members of Congress but the

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<v Speaker 4>public about the importance of this museum is that's just

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<v Speaker 4>the way it is. And I'm glad that we're here today,

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<v Speaker 4>and I hope I'm here long enough to see the

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<v Speaker 4>opening of the doors of the National Museum of American.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry mentions Congress because way before the creation of a

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<v Speaker 2>Latino museum was even a possibility, the battle to try

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<v Speaker 2>to make that happen took place on Capitol Hill.

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<v Speaker 8>My name is Ileana Ross Clayton, and and I was

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<v Speaker 8>a member of Congress for almost thirty years representing South Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>Ileana was born in Cuba and then moved to the

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<v Speaker 2>US when she was just eight years old. She was

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<v Speaker 2>elected to Congress over thirty years ago as a Republican.

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<v Speaker 2>As a congresswoman, Ilana says she formerly started pushing for

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<v Speaker 2>a Latino museum back in two thousand and four, but

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<v Speaker 2>she admits she saw the need for this much much sooner.

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<v Speaker 8>But when I got elected in nineteen eighty nine, my

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<v Speaker 8>children were very young, and I would take them to

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<v Speaker 8>these beautiful museums that we have here in Washington, d c.

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<v Speaker 8>And part of the Smithsonian Collage of museums, and I

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<v Speaker 8>would always be amazed that there was never any any

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<v Speaker 8>section or any museum devoted to the growing impact of

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<v Speaker 8>Hispanic communities throughout the United States. And I said, Wow,

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<v Speaker 8>that's really missing. You know, maybe we should do something

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<v Speaker 8>about that. There's a real void.

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<v Speaker 2>To understand why Ileanna, a congresswoman, needed to get involved

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<v Speaker 2>in this issue, we have to first understand that the

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<v Speaker 2>Smithsonian is actually part of the federal government. It's granted

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<v Speaker 2>authority over its own grounds and buildings, but it depends

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<v Speaker 2>on Congress for some funding and the authorization of major

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<v Speaker 2>projects projects like a National Latino Museum, and the Smithsonian

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one, more than sixty percent of the institution's funding

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<v Speaker 2>became a legislative priority for Ileana and started working on

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<v Speaker 2>it with former Congressman Jose Serrano, a Democrat from New York. First,

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<v Speaker 8>We fussed about whether it should be called Hispanic, American,

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<v Speaker 8>finally it was settled on the National Museum of the

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<v Speaker 2>Then it was time to draft some legislation.

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<v Speaker 8>Jose and I filed a bill that would create a

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<v Speaker 2>They couldn't introduce legislation to create a National Latino Museum

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<v Speaker 2>without formally exploring the possibility first. After several years of

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<v Speaker 2>Remember Henry Munos, now the chairman of the National Museum

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<v Speaker 2>to lead this commission. This is Henry talking at a

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<v Speaker 9>nation's history, the appointment of a commission that is composed

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<v Speaker 2>The group wrapped up and presented its findings to the

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<v Speaker 2>President in twenty eleven. The result was what Ileana and

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<v Speaker 2>supporting colleagues were hoping for. Building a museum for Latinos

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<v Speaker 2>on the National Mall was possible and vital. Anything less

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<v Speaker 8>Once we had that, then we wanted to actually build

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<v Speaker 8>the museum. Oh boy, it's a task worthy of hercules.

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<v Speaker 8>But in twenty seven we introduced the National Museum of

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<v Speaker 8>the American Latino Act. And I'm sorry to give you

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<v Speaker 8>such a chronology, but it's been quite a struggle.

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<v Speaker 2>The bill had a surprising amount of bipartisans support behind it,

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<v Speaker 2>especially from Senators and House members who represented areas with

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<v Speaker 2>people like then California Congressman Javiert Becera. Today he's President

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<v Speaker 10>If you walk through the mall of the nation's capital,

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<v Speaker 10>you can come out understanding better than any place also

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<v Speaker 10>the world, what it means to be an American. But

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<v Speaker 10>once you finish that walk through all those museums along

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<v Speaker 2>Former Senator Ken Salas out of Colorado and Senator Bob

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<v Speaker 2>Menendez of New Jersey, both Democrats, supported the museum, and

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<v Speaker 2>some Republican heavyweights also through their support behind it. The

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<v Speaker 2>and Texas Senator John Cornyn helped introduce the final legislation

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<v Speaker 2>that would make the museum official. But it wasn't all

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<v Speaker 2>smooth sailing.

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<v Speaker 8>There were many moments where we thought, oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>There were many arguments against creating a National Latino Museum,

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<v Speaker 2>things like it was too expensive or too political. There

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<v Speaker 2>were also objections to building on the National Mall. One

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<v Speaker 2>line of thinking from several people in Congress was that, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>if we give Latinos a museum, then every quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>minority group is going to want one. Another popular suggestion

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<v Speaker 2>among those not in favor was instead of a Latino museum,

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<v Speaker 2>Why not a national immigration museum. Wouldn't that be more

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<v Speaker 2>inclusive of other communities. Here's Utah Senator Mike Lee, who

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<v Speaker 2>at one point blocked legislation to create a National Latino Museum.

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<v Speaker 11>But the last thing we need is to further do

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<v Speaker 11>an already divided nation with an array of segregated, separate,

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<v Speaker 11>but equal museums for hyphenated identity groups.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an ongoing tug of war, and the bill

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<v Speaker 2>kept getting bogged down and kicked off the floor for

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<v Speaker 2>many years. Then December twenty twenty came along. We were

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<v Speaker 2>in the midst of an unprecedented pandemic, and political tensions

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<v Speaker 2>in the US were reaching all time highs. Congress was

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<v Speaker 2>on the verge of passing COVID nineteen relief legislation. So

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<v Speaker 2>Iliana and her colleagues decided to attach their bill for

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<v Speaker 2>a National Latino Museum to this larger package. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a tactical move, she says. They knew the COVID legislation

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<v Speaker 2>had to pass, and it finally did on December twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty. The National Latino Museum was wrapped up in

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<v Speaker 2>a nearly nine hundred billion dollars COVID nineteen relief package

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<v Speaker 2>like a trojan horse. Ilana says, the Trump administration took

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<v Speaker 8>I guess some people would think that it was ironic,

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<v Speaker 8>but actually the Trump administration did not fight this bill

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<v Speaker 1>The President's signature greenlit the creation of the National Museum

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<v Speaker 1>of the American Latino. It also approved its funding model.

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<v Speaker 1>Half of the money would come from Congress and half

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<v Speaker 1>would need to be fundraised from private donors. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>same funding model the National Museum of African American History

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<v Speaker 1>and Culture used. The cost of the National Latino Museum

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<v Speaker 1>is projected to be anywhere between six hundred to eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollars, though that's subject to change. The museum

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<v Speaker 1>is going to need some big funders, which often means

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<v Speaker 1>big companies. Walmart, Microsoft, Wells, Fargo, Bank of America, and

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<v Speaker 1>Coca Cola are among those that have already pledged some millions.

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<v Speaker 1>Along with securing its funding, the museum also needs to

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<v Speaker 1>find its home. The location is highly contested right now,

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<v Speaker 1>either to be on the National Mall from the National

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<v Speaker 1>Museum of African American History and Culture or on a

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<v Speaker 1>different site. And then there's the question of staffing and curation,

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<v Speaker 1>and along that process building an institution for the future

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<v Speaker 1>that is representative of everyone in the LATINX community, cross generations, race, gender,

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<v Speaker 1>and nationality. Easy, right, Yeah. Brecente started to give life

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<v Speaker 1>to the National Museum of the American Latino, and as

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<v Speaker 1>this space becomes more and more tangible, more real, people

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<v Speaker 1>within the community are starting to ask whose stories are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be on its walls and floors and who

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<v Speaker 1>might be left out. Here's Henry Munos, the chairman of

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<v Speaker 4>Again, well it's a queer brown chairman of the National

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<v Speaker 4>Museum of the American Latino. I would say that museums

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<v Speaker 4>have always their strongest when there are places of conversation,

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<v Speaker 4>and those conversations are not always easy. And this is

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<v Speaker 6>Who gets to be part of the National Museum of

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<v Speaker 6>the American Latino, both behind the scenes and on display.

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<v Speaker 6>That question hangs in the balance as this institution begins

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<v Speaker 6>to take shape. Stay with us, Yes, hey, we're back.

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<v Speaker 6>When we left off, we heard from some of the

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<v Speaker 6>it are underway. We're going to dive behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 6>to try to understand the vision of this museum and

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<v Speaker 6>how crucial it is to include different voices in the process.

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<v Speaker 2>At Wadalodas is giving us a tour of some of

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<v Speaker 12>This has been seven years of a lot of hard work.

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<v Speaker 12>We started from nothing. We had no project manager, we

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<v Speaker 12>had no space, we had no money, you know, but

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<v Speaker 12>it was built on a desire to you know, plant

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<v Speaker 2>Until recently, at Watado was the director of the Smithsonian

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<v Speaker 2>Latino Center. The center has been around since nineteen ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the Smithsonian's response to its report about Latinos.

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<v Speaker 2>At Wadado let the center from two thousand and eight

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<v Speaker 2>until it got absorbed into the Museum of the American

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<v Speaker 2>Latino in the last two years. Eduardo is now the

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<v Speaker 12>You know, and I love very much that we're able

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<v Speaker 12>to tell stories that people don't know about.

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<v Speaker 2>Stories like so Theo Figaroa's.

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<v Speaker 12>of course, you know, we know that Afro Puerto Ricans

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<v Speaker 12>didn't have the same access generally speaking to resources, including

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<v Speaker 12>that made too Figoa so literate, so committed was he

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<v Speaker 2>So Thato later moved to New York where he founded

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<v Speaker 2>in Brena America. It was a print shop in Lower

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<v Speaker 2>Manhattan that produced the Cuban Revolutionary Parties newspaper. He also

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<v Speaker 2>contributed to other local Spanish language publications. The hidden histories

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<v Speaker 12>You see to Puttin the San Gabrielle over here. She

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<v Speaker 12>which were essentially it was enslavement. As basically as we

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<v Speaker 12>don't know about Purina, right, and there's so many other characters.

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<v Speaker 12>So who was the Stevan Nico, right, the first African

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<v Speaker 2>Eduardo says that a sculpture of Pueblo revolutionary leader Pope

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<v Speaker 2>indigenous roots. The black and gree piece was made in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen by Pueblo artists Virgil Ortiz. Along with Edwaddo's

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<v Speaker 2>There were artifacts and stories about US expansionism and the

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<v Speaker 2>There were still some things missing. Latinos hail from more

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<v Speaker 2>than thirty different countries, and not all of them and

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<v Speaker 2>their histories were visible. There also weren't a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>prominent stories about children, Asian Latinos and the LGBTQ community

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<v Speaker 2>out front and center. One of the acknowledges they had

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<v Speaker 2>to make some tough calls.

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<v Speaker 12>For example, Brazilians are not reflected here, and you know,

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<v Speaker 12>As far as I'm concerned, they're part of our community,

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<v Speaker 2>Since the National Museum of the American Latino won't be

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<v Speaker 2>that the movie gallery will continue to be a space

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<v Speaker 2>for the museum to figure out how to tell the

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<v Speaker 2>overarching narrative of Latinos in the United States. It's an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to realize what they missed the first time and

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<v Speaker 2>figure out how they can make it better. After Precente,

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<v Speaker 2>the team at the Smithsonian plans to create other exhibitions,

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<v Speaker 2>including shows about Latinos in the military and Latino youth activism.

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<v Speaker 2>But for now, one takeaway from this show for everyone

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<v Speaker 2>is that there's still a lot of work ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>The Smithsonian is incredibly important. I'm a historian, that's my

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<v Speaker 3>academic discipline, and I've also taken classes on public history.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what museums are, essentially public history right there, right

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<v Speaker 3>for the people, for anyone to come in.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Rosa Clemente. She's a scholar, organizer, and independent

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<v Speaker 1>journalist whose work centers on Afro Black LATINX communities and identity.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and eight, she also ran for vice

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<v Speaker 1>been following the ongoing process to create a national museum

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<v Speaker 1>for Latinos, and she's already feeling skeptical about the direction

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<v Speaker 1>of the space.

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<v Speaker 3>Should the Smithsonian have a museum for us? Absolutely? The

425
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<v Speaker 3>problem is even saying the Museum of the American Latino?

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<v Speaker 3>What does that mean? Like? Who do you include in Latino?

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<v Speaker 1>As a historian, Rosa says she finds herself drawn to

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<v Speaker 1>museums as spaces for discourse and archiving, but as a

429
00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:39.360
<v Speaker 1>black Puerto Rican woman, she's all too aware of how

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<v Speaker 1>these institutions often fail her in her community. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>until she got to college that she began to understand

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<v Speaker 1>her own history. She just didn't have access to that

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge growing up.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even think I knew why Puerto Rico was

435
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<v Speaker 3>a colony. I just I knew I was Puerto Rican,

436
00:27:56.600 --> 00:27:57.880
<v Speaker 3>and I was always proud of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Rosa began to look for space is that were intentionally

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<v Speaker 1>built for her and her Afro Black communities, which is

439
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>very different from institutions that simply just make room. She says,

440
00:28:09.760 --> 00:28:11.120
<v Speaker 1>you can always tell the difference.

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<v Speaker 3>I love going to museums a part of me. When

442
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.119
<v Speaker 3>I walk into them, I look at what's on the wall,

443
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:20.679
<v Speaker 3>and then I go, who's not here? And that's how

444
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<v Speaker 3>I feel this museum is going to be. It's going

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00:28:22.760 --> 00:28:26.000
<v Speaker 3>to open one day and fifteen million of us are

446
00:28:26.040 --> 00:28:28.280
<v Speaker 3>going to walk in and be like, where are we?

447
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<v Speaker 1>That's why she felt she had to call out the Smithsonian.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier this year, Rosa wrote an op ed for the

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<v Speaker 1>new site Latino Rebels, which, like this show, is a

450
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<v Speaker 1>FUTPUO media property. Her piece was titled Afro Black LATINX

451
00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>People the Missing Pieces of National Museum of the American Latino.

452
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<v Speaker 1>Rosa was concerned that the stewards of this new museum

453
00:28:51.040 --> 00:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>were excluding Afro Black, Latino, Latina and LATINX history and

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<v Speaker 1>input in this space. She drew that conclusion after learning

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of folks who were publicly advocating for

456
00:29:02.520 --> 00:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the museum did not identify as black or Afro LATINX themselves.

457
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:12.960
<v Speaker 3>There's sixty five millions LATINX people potentially. Now imagine if

458
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:15.480
<v Speaker 3>one out of every four of us identified as black,

459
00:29:15.520 --> 00:29:19.200
<v Speaker 3>that's fifteen million of us. They fundamentally know they can't

460
00:29:19.360 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 3>move forward without us. They want us without us having

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00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:28.760
<v Speaker 3>any politic or power in these discussions and the work itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Shortly after Rosa's op ed was published, the National Museum

463
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<v Speaker 1>of the American Latino reached out to Latino Repels and

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<v Speaker 1>to Rossa to respond and to add a clarification. They

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<v Speaker 1>said that she specifically called out the board of an

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<v Speaker 1>unaffiliated advocacy group called Friends of the National Museum of

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00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the American Latino. The advocacy group told Latino USA that

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<v Speaker 1>they agree that inclusivity needs to be a priority one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent, and they're working on opening their lines of

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<v Speaker 1>communication to see how they can improve in that area,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also said the question of inclusion and diversity

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00:30:01.800 --> 00:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>will ultimately be the responsibility of the Smithsonian. For her part,

473
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<v Speaker 1>whether it's an outside advocacy group or the real deal,

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<v Speaker 1>Rosa stands by her bigger picture critique.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you need to differentiate if you are all

476
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<v Speaker 3>working towards creating this museum and making sure it's on

477
00:30:19.560 --> 00:30:23.360
<v Speaker 3>the mall in DC. Your cherry picking right now to

478
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:26.880
<v Speaker 3>try to break down my argument as opposed to dealing

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<v Speaker 3>with the issue at hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Leading the charge at the National Museum of the American

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<v Speaker 2>Latino is its new director, Porge Zamanio. You heard from

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<v Speaker 2>him at the beginning of the show when he was

483
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<v Speaker 2>welcoming us to Precente. Before this, has spent more than

484
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<v Speaker 2>twenty years at the History of Miami Museum, most recently

485
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<v Speaker 2>as its executive director and CEO. Now he's the director

486
00:30:55.560 --> 00:30:58.880
<v Speaker 2>of a museum that doesn't even physically exist yet. So

487
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:03.600
<v Speaker 2>if you can imagine, and his responsibilities are already pretty substantial.

488
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<v Speaker 5>You have to raise one hundreds of millions of dollars,

489
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:09.840
<v Speaker 5>You have to travel across the United States collecting stories

490
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:13.080
<v Speaker 5>and artifacts and objects along with your team. Of course,

491
00:31:13.120 --> 00:31:15.000
<v Speaker 5>you know you need to consider all those things.

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<v Speaker 2>We interviewed him a few weeks before he officially became

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<v Speaker 2>executive director of the Museum of the American Latino. That

494
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.360
<v Speaker 2>was back in May. We asked him about his plans

495
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<v Speaker 2>to address the wide range and scope of the LATINX

496
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:34.040
<v Speaker 2>community in the museum, including matters of race, nationality, and gender.

497
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<v Speaker 2>He said he's aware of the matter, but he didn't

498
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:39.760
<v Speaker 2>really have a specific game plan yet.

499
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<v Speaker 5>We know that Latino community is not a monolithic group, right,

500
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:48.080
<v Speaker 5>Different backgrounds and different needs, and that's really important. So

501
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:50.760
<v Speaker 5>the team and I are really going to cover as

502
00:31:50.760 --> 00:31:53.680
<v Speaker 5>main things as possible and mainy topics to try to

503
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:55.920
<v Speaker 5>explore what needs to be told and how it's presented,

504
00:31:56.080 --> 00:31:59.040
<v Speaker 5>because it's tough, you know, you don't have space for everything.

505
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<v Speaker 2>Also said that he's working with staff from the former

506
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Latino Center who have now joined the museum. For years,

507
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:10.760
<v Speaker 2>they've developed content and work with Smithsonian Museums on exhibitions,

508
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.480
<v Speaker 2>and Horge says that a lot of the foundational work

509
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:16.960
<v Speaker 2>has already been underway thanks to them. To build off

510
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>that work, what had talked about creating a widely accessible institution.

511
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<v Speaker 2>That's a big priority for him.

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<v Speaker 5>I want our presence to be throughout the United States

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00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:28.720
<v Speaker 5>and Latino communities. So that's going to be a new

514
00:32:28.760 --> 00:32:31.400
<v Speaker 5>way we develop a museum where we take it out

515
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.160
<v Speaker 5>into communities across the United States, maybe as satellite exhibits,

516
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:39.640
<v Speaker 5>maybe as travelers, and ways to engage different communities, especially

517
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:42.680
<v Speaker 5>those that cannot make the trip to DC. How are

518
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:44.800
<v Speaker 5>they going to experience this and how are they going

519
00:32:44.840 --> 00:32:46.680
<v Speaker 5>to share their story? So that's what we need to

520
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:48.280
<v Speaker 5>figure out over the next few years.

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<v Speaker 2>We also ask about his vision for the museum in

522
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<v Speaker 2>the long term.

523
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<v Speaker 5>It's going to be a vision that's developed not only

524
00:32:54.520 --> 00:32:57.360
<v Speaker 5>by the team and myself, but really by talking to

525
00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:00.320
<v Speaker 5>people and challenging ourselves. What can we do better than

526
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:03.320
<v Speaker 5>other museums find these stories of wise museum matters right?

527
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<v Speaker 5>And how do we make sure that this Latino history

528
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.120
<v Speaker 5>is American history. That's going to be a challenge and

529
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<v Speaker 5>I don't have the answer for it right now what

530
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:11.560
<v Speaker 5>that main vision is, but it's gonna be fun to explore.

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<v Speaker 2>The museum is currently a work in progress, but overall

532
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<v Speaker 2>it seems that there are still way more questions than

533
00:33:18.800 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 2>answers about the future of this space.

534
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<v Speaker 1>For Rosa, it still feels disingenuous to have an institution

535
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<v Speaker 1>like the Smithsonian, one with a history of centering whiteness

536
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and colonialism, claim to be prioritizing diversity.

537
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:41.160
<v Speaker 3>Ultimately, Museum Shop is to make sure that every story,

538
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:45.640
<v Speaker 3>whether bad or good, is told. Whether we were excluded

539
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:48.640
<v Speaker 3>one time and now we're not. So those are the

540
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<v Speaker 3>things that I also think people are grappingly with in

541
00:33:52.760 --> 00:33:55.840
<v Speaker 3>a way. But also we have to be careful how

542
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:59.840
<v Speaker 3>much time we spend begging people to include us.

543
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<v Speaker 1>Rosa says she doesn't want to feel like a visual

544
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:05.880
<v Speaker 1>prop and she has a point. The Molina Gallery, the

545
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:08.840
<v Speaker 1>new state of the art space holding the Precente exhibition,

546
00:34:09.520 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>is only about forty five hundred square feet in size.

547
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Compare that to the three hundred and twenty five thousand

548
00:34:16.560 --> 00:34:20.080
<v Speaker 1>square feet available to the public in the entire Museum

549
00:34:20.080 --> 00:34:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of American History. It's just a little bit more than

550
00:34:23.560 --> 00:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>one percent of the total space of this massive building

551
00:34:27.680 --> 00:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>dedicated to American history and culture. Considering Latinos represent nineteen

552
00:34:32.680 --> 00:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>percent of the US population, it's telling that a space

553
00:34:36.640 --> 00:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>like this completely dedicated to Latinos and Latinas never existed

554
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:49.720
<v Speaker 1>in this particular museum to begin with. According to Rosa,

555
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>if only elite, non black folks are involved from the start,

556
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:56.240
<v Speaker 1>then all you're doing is building an elite, non black museum.

557
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<v Speaker 1>Any talk of inclusion or diversity after that just this

558
00:35:00.120 --> 00:35:01.359
<v Speaker 1>feels like lip service to her.

559
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<v Speaker 3>The reality is the entire experience of the American Latino

560
00:35:07.040 --> 00:35:11.359
<v Speaker 3>is rooted in black and brownness. That should be the

561
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:15.680
<v Speaker 3>center's part and everything gets built from that, not throwing

562
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:19.880
<v Speaker 3>us in because some people are speaking out or somebody

563
00:35:20.040 --> 00:35:23.040
<v Speaker 3>was like, wait a minute, everybody here there is not

564
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<v Speaker 3>one Afro Black Latino person represented.

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<v Speaker 1>As Precente, and the museum gained momentum. More people are

566
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>getting vocal with their thoughts. Outlets including The Hill and

567
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>An American, published conservative reviews of Precente, criticizing what authors

568
00:35:39.200 --> 00:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>identified as a streak of radical leftism in the show.

569
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<v Speaker 1>They said Precente failed to condemn left wing dictatorships in

570
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Latin America and left out LATINX contributions to the US military.

571
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>They also took issue with its quote unquote woke take

572
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>on American expansionism as a successor to Spanish colonialism. One

573
00:35:58.680 --> 00:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>piece even called for Congress to revoke its funding for

574
00:36:02.040 --> 00:36:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the National Museum of the American Latino entirely. Earlier this year,

575
00:36:09.160 --> 00:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the museum announced the formation of a scholarly advisory committee.

576
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Eighteen prominent LATINX academics from across the country joined the council,

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00:36:16.640 --> 00:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>bringing their expertise in a range of topics such as

578
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>literature and journalism, politics and law, LGBTQ issues, Central American migration,

579
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Mexican American identity, the African diaspora, Caribbean history, and the

580
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>list goes on. Their job formerly is to review exhibitions

581
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<v Speaker 1>and help guide the vision Jorge was talking about earlier,

582
00:36:37.560 --> 00:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>but we're not sure exactly how their work will manifest

583
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and how influential their input will actually be. The opportunity

584
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:49.040
<v Speaker 1>at hand is unique, a museum by about and four

585
00:36:49.120 --> 00:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>latinxes on one of the nation's biggest platforms. No single

586
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:56.799
<v Speaker 1>museum will ever satisfy everyone, but if this is to

587
00:36:56.840 --> 00:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>be a truly representative museum of the American Latino, we

588
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<v Speaker 1>must keep holding it to that standard.

589
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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, the National Mall in DC is bustling today. Tourists

590
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:18.279
<v Speaker 2>are walking around with their families, People in suits are

591
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:21.680
<v Speaker 2>making their way back to work after lunch. Cars zoom

592
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:25.040
<v Speaker 2>past us. There's also an ice cream truck park kind

593
00:37:25.040 --> 00:37:28.440
<v Speaker 2>of close by, and it's blasting its music. It's around

594
00:37:28.520 --> 00:37:31.440
<v Speaker 2>noon and the sun is out and bright and hot.

595
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 2>But a Leah and I sit down anyway under the

596
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<v Speaker 2>shade of a large tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been to the mall before?

598
00:37:38.520 --> 00:37:42.080
<v Speaker 2>I have, but like as like a tourist, so like

599
00:37:42.160 --> 00:37:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm always when I come to DC, I'm like, well,

600
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<v Speaker 2>what is actually in the mall? You know what I mean?

601
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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not like too too, Like we just walked

602
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:51.960
<v Speaker 2>out of Vitcente and took a fifteen minute long stroll

603
00:37:52.200 --> 00:37:54.800
<v Speaker 2>up the Mall to reach this particular spot.

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<v Speaker 13>This is the plot where a lot of advocates, including

605
00:37:59.640 --> 00:38:04.440
<v Speaker 13>folks the Smithsonian, want the Museum of the American Latino

606
00:38:04.520 --> 00:38:06.880
<v Speaker 13>to stand. It's not the biggest plot of land, but

607
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 13>it's like it's kind of an iconic setting. Right here

608
00:38:10.200 --> 00:38:14.160
<v Speaker 13>in front of me is the Washington Monument, and then

609
00:38:14.680 --> 00:38:18.680
<v Speaker 13>right across the way, almost like poetically, is the National

610
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<v Speaker 13>Museum of African American History and Culture.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't the only site that's being considered for the museum.

612
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<v Speaker 2>There's a spot adjacent to the Senate side of the

613
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:31.240
<v Speaker 2>Capitol building too. Some people have toyed with the idea

614
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:35.880
<v Speaker 2>of refurbishing some existing buildings, like the Smithsonian's Arts and

615
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Industries building, or even the Department of Agriculture, which is

616
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<v Speaker 2>the only federal agency on the National Mall and is

617
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:49.200
<v Speaker 2>housed in this giant, elegant building. This spot, though it's

618
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:53.680
<v Speaker 2>calm and it's right in the middle of everything, it

619
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:55.600
<v Speaker 2>was to happen here. I feel a lot of the

620
00:38:55.640 --> 00:38:59.359
<v Speaker 2>people that we've spoken with would almost feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>miss accomplished, you know, to really have it here in

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00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the center at the National Mall, accessible for everyone.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a right now, there's like a little trail, There's

624
00:39:09.200 --> 00:39:13.160
<v Speaker 7>a lot of old trees all around, and it's kind

625
00:39:13.160 --> 00:39:15.560
<v Speaker 7>of it's very peaceful and kind of lovely the way

626
00:39:15.600 --> 00:39:18.120
<v Speaker 7>it is, But this is kind of the spot that

627
00:39:18.120 --> 00:39:20.440
<v Speaker 7>could maybe have new life in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>As Ala and I sit here taking it in, we

629
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:31.520
<v Speaker 2>feel all the potential this place holds. If the Latino

630
00:39:31.640 --> 00:39:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Museum is built here, it could represent the national scale

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<v Speaker 2>recognition latinx's have deserved and demanded of the Smithsonian. We're

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<v Speaker 2>also left with so many questions, questions that can only

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<v Speaker 2>be answered with time. Yes, it's going to take a

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<v Speaker 2>decade to bring this space to life, and we will

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<v Speaker 2>continue to hold the Smithsonian accountable to creating a museum

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<v Speaker 2>that is honest and thoroughly inclusive of the lif the

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<v Speaker 2>next community. But this is also a massive institution with

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<v Speaker 2>the history of exclusion, and after decades of wilful neglect,

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<v Speaker 2>some skepticism is warranted. Can we trust that they'll get

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<v Speaker 2>this right?

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<v Speaker 6>This episode was produced by Alejandra Salassa and Rinaldo Leanos

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<v Speaker 6>Junior and edited by Andrea Lobez. Grusado. It was mixed

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<v Speaker 6>by Andy Bosnak. Fact checking for this episode by Elisa Baena.

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<v Speaker 6>The Latino USA team includes Marta Martinez, Daisy Contredras, Mike Sergent,

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<v Speaker 6>Julieta Martinelli, Victoria Strada, Patricia Sulvaran, and Julia Rocha without

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<v Speaker 6>from Raoul Perez. Our editorial director is Fernando Santos. Our

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<v Speaker 6>director of Engineering is Stephanie Lebau. Our senior engineer is

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<v Speaker 6>Julia Caruso. Our associate engineers are Gabrielle A Bias and

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<v Speaker 6>jj Carubin. Our marketing manager is Luis Luna. Our theme

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<v Speaker 6>music was composed by Zane Ruinos. I'm your host and

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<v Speaker 6>executive producer Mariao Josa. Join us again on our next episode,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, thank you guys. You're so wonderful.

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<v Speaker 8>And let me tell you, I thought it was silly

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<v Speaker 8>when you first said to put this microphone. I thought,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, it's just going to be the same kind

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<v Speaker 8>of But I have never used this system before. Wow,

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<v Speaker 8>and the sound system that I hear in my ear,

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<v Speaker 8>it makes such a difference. So thank you for fussing

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<v Speaker 8>over this and making sure that we would have this

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<v Speaker 8>kind of setup.

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<v Speaker 2>It is great.

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<v Speaker 8>And now I'm gonna I'm gonna run to my three

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<v Speaker 8>o'clock appointment.