
Sex and relationships are intimate — and sometimes intimidating to talk about. In WUNC’s award-winning podcast, host Anita Rao guides us on an exploration of our brains and bodies that touches down in taboo territory.
Follow the show on Instagram at @embodiedwunc and on Bluesky at embodiedwunc.bsky.social. You can find Anita on Bluesky at asrao.bsky.social.
Sex and relationships are intimate — and sometimes intimidating to talk about. In WUNC’s award-winning podcast, host Anita Rao guides us on an exploration of our brains and bodies that touches down in taboo territory.
Follow the show on Instagram at @embodiedwunc and on Bluesky at embodiedwunc.bsky.social. You can find Anita on Bluesky at asrao.bsky.social.


















































































































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In Anita's lifetime, the divorce rate for Americans over 55 has doubled. People are living longer, divorce stigma has decreased and women are more financially independent. But leaving a decades-long marriage … is a big life upheaval. Anita gets personal accounts from two gray divorcees about what it was like to rebuild their identities, finances and freedom post-divorce. They discuss money management, surfing and why women initiate divorce most often in heterosexual partnerships.
Meet the guests:
- Laura Stassi is a writer, editor and the host of the podcast "Dating While Gray"
- Dr. Stephanie Han is a literature scholar, award-winning author and educator
Special thanks to Nanette Murphy and Linda Lingo for sharing their thoughts for this episode!
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Please note: This episode originally aired August 15, 2024.
Update: Stephanie’s guide to writing your divorce story and her class on the same topic was featured on Oprah Daily.
You can check out Climbing the Walls here.