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All the Presidents' Lawyers

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There are so many lawyers, so many lawsuits and so much legal news surrounding President Trump that we decided to call our own lawyer to catch you up.

KCRW 2020, 498771

There are so many lawyers, so many lawsuits and so much legal news surrounding President Trump that we decided to call our own lawyer to catch you up.

KCRW 2020, 498771
13hr 39min
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Ken and Josh discuss congressional access to former President Trump’s tax returns, a federal judge’s musing on the sentences for Capitol rioters, and the ongoing Michael Avenatti trial.
August 5, 202128min 29sec
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It’s not RICO, but this is the final episode of All The Presidents’ Lawyers
November 25, 202132min 11sec
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Josh and Ken talk about the indictment of Steve Bannon, the end of Summer Zervos’ defamation lawsuit against former President Trump, and more.
November 17, 202134min 2sec
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Josh Barro and Ken White discuss the second indictment from John Durham’s investigation into the investigation of the Trump campaign and Russia.
November 10, 202129min 54sec
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Josh Barro and Ken White talk more about the executive privilege issues and unknowns as the January 6 committee continues its investigation into former President Trump and his administration.
November 3, 202130min 29sec
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Josh Barro and Ken White talk about four familiar characters: Lev Parnas, Steve Bannon, John Eastman and Michael Avenatti.
October 27, 202133min 39sec
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Josh Barro and Ken White revisit executive privilege and whether a former president can make a strong claim to keep records private.
October 20, 202129min 20sec
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Law professor Carissa Byrne Hessick joins Josh Barro and Ken White on the show to discuss plea bargains and the justice system.
October 13, 202128min 28sec
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Ken White and Josh Barro discuss Trump’s suit against Twitter, what makes a state actor, if sending cease and desist letters is doing the RICO, and more.
October 6, 202132min 7sec
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Ken White talks with David Lat about the attorneys in Trump’s orbit and their descent into “Trump Derangement Syndrome.”
September 29, 202133min 14sec
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Josh Barro and Ken White discuss the unusual indictment of Michael Sussman and the unusual memo from Trump lawyer John Eastman about Mike Pence and Donald Trump.
September 23, 202135min 30sec
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Josh Barro and Ken White talk about the fate of Rudy Giuliani associate, and why you should closely read the script before recording a Cameo.
September 15, 202130min 48sec
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Ken and Josh discuss the Trump Organization, “felonious” behavior and the fate of the very recognizable defendant known as the QAnon Shaman.
September 9, 202134min 26sec
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Ken and Josh discuss disappearing lawyers, incompetent tricksters and and what happens when a judge tells a lawyer to go back to school.
September 1, 202135min 16sec
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Josh and Ken discuss Avenatti’s mistrial, Matt Gaetz’s marriage and spousal privilege, thumbheaded henchmen and new Capitol riot prosecutions.
August 25, 202133min 59sec
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Ken and Josh discuss Jeffrey Clark and Jeffrey Rosen, Dominion’s lawsuits and Michael Avenatti’s lawyering.
August 18, 202130min 46sec
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Josh Barro talks with reporter Ryan Reilly about the complicated effort to identify, investigate, charge and prosecute hundreds of people who participated in the January 6 insurrection, and how some tech-savvy civilians are getting involved.
August 11, 202134min 20sec
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Ken and Josh discuss the Avenatti trial(s), the DOJ’s decision on Mo Brooks, and how you get really, really wealthy people to show up for court.
July 28, 202134min 19sec
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Ken and Josh discuss Michael Avenatti’s decision to represent himself, the drama around Section 230, and the Tom Barrack indictment.
July 21, 202135min 25sec
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Ken and Josh discuss fallout from the indictment of Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg, how much his defense might cost, the Kraken lawyers’ sanctions hearing and Michael Avenatti’s first sentencing.
July 14, 202131min 12sec
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Josh Barro & Ken White discuss the indictments unsealed today for the Trump Organization and its CFO.
July 2, 202122min 16sec
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In this special episode, Josh Barro and Ken White talk about anticipated charges for the Trump Organization and what happens before those charges arrive, and they answer listener questions.
July 1, 202157min 40sec
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Josh Barro and Ken White talk about the first Capitol riot defendant to be sentenced, Ukrainian oligarchs, Bolton’s off the hook for his book and the Trump Organization sues New York City.
June 24, 202132min 35sec
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Josh Barro and Ken White discuss the Trump administration’s efforts to obtain lawmakers' phone records, new indictments and new plea deals for Capitol rioters, and Ken manages to connect Ewoks and Stormy Daniels.
June 16, 202131min 43sec
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Josh Barro and Ken White talk about the Department of Justice continuing to represent Trump in E. Jean Carroll’s suit, Rudy on tape, special mastering and more.
June 10, 202126min 39sec

Tax returns return

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August 5, 202128min 29sec

The Biden administration said this week that the House Ways and Means Committee can have access to former President Trump’s tax returns. The committee says it wants the returns as part of an ongoing investigation into how the IRS audits presidents – and that Trump’s returns serve a valid legislative purpose. Trump said he’d personally sue to prevent the returns from being turned over (and he did so after we recorded this episode). Are we in for another long battle?

Also: federal judges think out loud, too. A number of the Jan. 6 cases are in front of Chief Judge Beryl Howell of the D.C. District. This week, she asked prosecutors whether the government was being overall too lenient on defendants. Ken White explains why this isn’t all that uncommon in the courtroom, and whether this actually matters as far as sentencing goes.

Then: after he was appointed chair of the Jan. 6 committee, Congressman Bennie Thompson withdrew from his Jan. 6-related civil lawsuit against Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, the Proud Boys and others. Was there a legal reason for this? Also: some former federal prosecutors think police officer testimony before the January 6 committee will make it more feasible to criminally charge Donald Trump. Are they right?

Finally: the Avenatti saga continues. What’s the standard for convicting somebody of wire fraud? Is it “down to the dollar,” as Avenatti wants to make the jury believe? Does that strategy make him a good lawyer? We discuss.