Logo for All the Presidents' Lawyers

All the Presidents' Lawyers

KCRW

There are so many lawyers, so many lawsuits and so much legal news surrounding President Trump that we decided to call our own lawyer to catch you up.

KCRW 2020, 498771

There are so many lawyers, so many lawsuits and so much legal news surrounding President Trump that we decided to call our own lawyer to catch you up.

KCRW 2020, 498771
13hr 39min
Thumbnail for "“Pure insanity”".
Josh Barro and Ken White discuss the Trump administration’s efforts to obtain lawmakers' phone records, new indictments and new plea deals for Capitol rioters, and Ken manages to connect Ewoks and Stormy Daniels.
Thumbnail for "The end of the road, for now".
It’s not RICO, but this is the final episode of All The Presidents’ Lawyers
Thumbnail for "Summer’s over".
Josh and Ken talk about the indictment of Steve Bannon, the end of Summer Zervos’ defamation lawsuit against former President Trump, and more.
Thumbnail for "Another indictment from Durham".
Josh Barro and Ken White discuss the second indictment from John Durham’s investigation into the investigation of the Trump campaign and Russia.
Thumbnail for "Low-hanging fruit".
Josh Barro and Ken White talk more about the executive privilege issues and unknowns as the January 6 committee continues its investigation into former President Trump and his administration.
Thumbnail for "Guilty. Appealing. Talking. Referred for contempt.".
Josh Barro and Ken White talk about four familiar characters: Lev Parnas, Steve Bannon, John Eastman and Michael Avenatti.
Thumbnail for "Testing the boundaries of executive privilege".
Josh Barro and Ken White revisit executive privilege and whether a former president can make a strong claim to keep records private.
Thumbnail for "Is a plea bargain a good deal?".
Law professor Carissa Byrne Hessick joins Josh Barro and Ken White on the show to discuss plea bargains and the justice system.
Thumbnail for "What is a state actor?".
Ken White and Josh Barro discuss Trump’s suit against Twitter, what makes a state actor, if sending cease and desist letters is doing the RICO, and more.
Thumbnail for "Trump Derangement Syndrome with David Lat".
Ken White talks with David Lat about the attorneys in Trump’s orbit and their descent into “Trump Derangement Syndrome.”
Thumbnail for "An unusual indictment, an unusual memo".
Josh Barro and Ken White discuss the unusual indictment of Michael Sussman and the unusual memo from Trump lawyer John Eastman about Mike Pence and Donald Trump.
Thumbnail for "Fate of the Henchman".
Josh Barro and Ken White talk about the fate of Rudy Giuliani associate, and why you should closely read the script before recording a Cameo.
Thumbnail for "Juniors".
Ken and Josh discuss the Trump Organization, “felonious” behavior and the fate of the very recognizable defendant known as the QAnon Shaman.
Thumbnail for "What happens when your lawyer is MIA".
Ken and Josh discuss disappearing lawyers, incompetent tricksters and and what happens when a judge tells a lawyer to go back to school.
Thumbnail for "Mistrial!".
Josh and Ken discuss Avenatti’s mistrial, Matt Gaetz’s marriage and spousal privilege, thumbheaded henchmen and new Capitol riot prosecutions.
Thumbnail for "Jeffrey Rosen and Jeffrey Clark".
Ken and Josh discuss Jeffrey Clark and Jeffrey Rosen, Dominion’s lawsuits and Michael Avenatti’s lawyering.
Thumbnail for "Seven months and 600+ people charged".
Josh Barro talks with reporter Ryan Reilly about the complicated effort to identify, investigate, charge and prosecute hundreds of people who participated in the January 6 insurrection, and how some tech-savvy civilians are getting involved.
Thumbnail for "Tax returns return".
Ken and Josh discuss congressional access to former President Trump’s tax returns, a federal judge’s musing on the sentences for Capitol rioters, and the ongoing Michael Avenatti trial.
Thumbnail for "DOJ threads the needle".
Ken and Josh discuss the Avenatti trial(s), the DOJ’s decision on Mo Brooks, and how you get really, really wealthy people to show up for court.
Thumbnail for "A pro se pro?".
Ken and Josh discuss Michael Avenatti’s decision to represent himself, the drama around Section 230, and the Tom Barrack indictment.
Thumbnail for "An expensive defense".
Ken and Josh discuss fallout from the indictment of Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg, how much his defense might cost, the Kraken lawyers’ sanctions hearing and Michael Avenatti’s first sentencing.
Thumbnail for "BONUS: Josh and Ken talk about the criminal indictments against Allen Weisselberg and the Trump Organization ".
Josh Barro & Ken White discuss the indictments unsealed today for the Trump Organization and its CFO.
Thumbnail for "The ATPL XL Ask Us Anything Show".
In this special episode, Josh Barro and Ken White talk about anticipated charges for the Trump Organization and what happens before those charges arrive, and they answer listener questions.
Thumbnail for ""What the Fuks?"".
Josh Barro and Ken White talk about the first Capitol riot defendant to be sentenced, Ukrainian oligarchs, Bolton’s off the hook for his book and the Trump Organization sues New York City.
Thumbnail for "A Trump legal problem becomes a Biden administration problem".
Josh Barro and Ken White talk about the Department of Justice continuing to represent Trump in E. Jean Carroll’s suit, Rudy on tape, special mastering and more.

“Pure insanity”

Thumbnail for "“Pure insanity”".
June 16, 202131min 43sec

It’s been an interesting week for Donald Trump’s Department of Justice, despite the fact that Donald Trump isn’t president anymore. This week, we saw communications from Trump administration officials pressuring people in the Department of Justice to investigate increasingly erratic claims about the November election. In one exchange, White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows asked then-acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen to look into a matter dubbed “Italygate.” Rosen forwarded the request to his acting deputy attorney general, who replied “pure insanity.” What’s revealed in these communications? Why didn’t they ultimately bend to the will of the Trump White House? Was anything about their communications legally irresponsible? Ken says you shouldn’t underestimate the motivating forces of self preservation, institutional preservation, and the likelihood that many people in Trump’s Department of Justice were about to be on the job hunt.

Then, we knew that the Trump administration had subpoenaed journalists’ information as part of its leak investigations, but this week, we found out that extended to lawmakers too. Did they necessarily suspect certain lawmakers were leaking material? What were they looking for?

Plus: former White House counsel Don McGahn finally testified and it was kind of boring, new indictments and new plea deals for those involved in the Capitol riots, and Ken makes a connection between Ewoks, Stormy Daniels and Michael Avenatti because Ken’s gonna Ken.