Welcome to Kelly Corrigan Wonders, a place for people who like to laugh while they think and find it useful to look closely at ourselves and our weird ways in the hopes that knowing more and feeling more will help us do more and be better.  Author of 4 New York Times bestsellers about family life, Kelly wonders about loads of stuff: is knowing more always good? Can we trust our gut? How does change actually happen?  We only book nice people who have a sense of humor and know things worth knowing. Each episode ends with Kelly’s shortlist of takeaways, appropriate for refrigerator doors, bulletin boards and notes to your children.

In honor of 20 years together, Leslie Browning wrote this sweet tribute to her husband Ben. In her early years, Leslie got her idea of “romantic love” from what she saw in chick movies but after sharing two decades together and the juggling required with kids, jobs, financial pressures, competing demands, middle age, menopause and loss, she learned that although solid, steady, “real love” might not make that great of a movie - it sure makes for one hell of a life.

In honor of 20 years together, Leslie Browning wrote this sweet tribute to her husband Ben. In her early years, Leslie got her idea of “romantic love” from what she saw in chick movies but after sharing two decades together and the juggling required with kids, jobs, financial pressures, competing demands, middle age, menopause and loss, she learned that although solid, steady, “real love” might not make that great of a movie - it sure makes for one hell of a life.

Real love might not make that great of a movie but it sure makes for one hell of a life.

Thanks For Being Here   Leslie's Letter to Her Husband Ben

Cathy Coleman wrote this eulogy for her mother Shirley. For Mother’s Day the year Cathy was 57, she made a list of 57 things about her mom that she was grateful for and references those things in this beautiful tribute.

Cathy Coleman wrote this eulogy for her mother Shirley.  For Mother’s Day the year Cathy was 57, she made a list of 57 things about her mom that she was grateful for and references those things in this beautiful tribute.

If you know you're right, do the right thing

Thanks For Being Here Cathy Coleman's Eulogy - 57 Things

After much back and forth with you all on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/kellycorriganauthor/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, I came up with my most important go-to items — the things that get me through the day — and, more importantly, the ideas that ground me on the epic journey of motherhood. (Previously aired)

After much back and forth with you all on Facebook, I came up with my most important go-to items — the things that get me through the day — and, more importantly, the ideas that ground me on the epic journey of motherhood. (Previously aired)

What keeps a day on track?

Go To on Kelly's Life Hacks

Dr. Leanne Williams is determined to spare people the suffering she’s endured. Her partner of many years died by suicide after fighting a depression that resisted all treatment. She has devoted her life as a scientist at Stanford to applying the principles and tactics of precision medicine to depression, which she has categorized into sub-types (much as was done with cancer decades ago). Joining me in this conversation are Dr BJ Miller, a friend and previous guest who works as a palliative care doc and lost his sister to suicide, as well as Emmy-winning comedian W. Kamau Bell, also a friend and previous guest, who brings his usual good will and insight to the conversation.

This episode contains a detailed discussion of suicide. If you are experiencing a mental health crisis, please dial 988 to reach the Suicide &amp; Crisis Lifeline.

Thanks to PBS for supporting this series. You can watch any of these episodes ay time at <a href="https://www.pbs.org/show/tell-me-more-kelly-corrigan/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PBS.org/kelly</a>.

Feedback welcome at <a href="mailto:hello@kellycorrigan.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">hello@kellycorrigan.com</a>.

Dr. Leanne Williams is determined to spare people the suffering she’s endured.  Her partner of many years died by suicide after fighting a depression that resisted all treatment.  She has devoted her life as a scientist at Stanford to applying the principles and tactics of precision medicine to depression, which she has categorized into sub-types (much as was done with cancer decades ago).  Joining me in this conversation are Dr BJ Miller, a friend and previous guest who works as a palliative care doc and lost his sister to suicide, as well as Emmy-winning comedian W. Kamau Bell, also a friend and previous guest, who brings his usual good will and insight to the conversation.
This episode contains a detailed discussion of suicide.  If you are experiencing a mental health crisis, please dial 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.
Thanks to PBS for supporting this series.  You can watch any of these episodes ay time at PBS.org/kelly.
Feedback welcome at hello@kellycorrigan.com.

Trial and error is no way to help people suffering from depression

Going Deep on Finding Much Better Treatments for Depression

Nancy Brown, a military spouse of 19 years, wrote this loving tribute for her two best deployment buddies. It honors the way the three friends formed one great big family while living through several deployments in Eastern North Carolina. Three women, no husbands and nine children all dressed in each other's hand-me-downs. On paper, they were more different than alike but maybe that's a more accurate description of a family after all. (Previously aired)

Nancy Brown, a military spouse of 19 years, wrote this loving tribute for her two best deployment buddies.  It honors the way the three friends formed one great big family while living through several deployments in Eastern North Carolina. Three women, no husbands and nine children all dressed in each other's hand-me-downs. On paper, they were more different than alike but maybe that's a more accurate description of a family after all. (Previously aired)

A new way to look at family

Thanks For Being Here Nancy Brown's "The Lejeune Family" 

I’ve done it again. I accidentally saw the world through my own lens and forgot all the other ways life unfolds for the people who listen to this show. Thanks to a listener named Micah Boyett who sent a lovely piece of unmistakable feedback — coated in genuine kindness — I learned the lesson again. We really respect our listeners and find your emails invaluable as we steer this ship we’ve built. Write any time. <a href="mailto:hello@kellycorrigan.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">hello@kellycorrigan.com</a>. We read every one.

Micah’s book is: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Blessed-Are-Rest-Us-Longing/dp/1587436094" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Blessed Are the Rest of Us: How Limits and Longing Make Us Whole</a>

I’ve done it again.  I accidentally saw the world through my own lens and forgot all the other ways life unfolds for the people who listen to this show.  Thanks to a listener named Micah Boyett who sent a lovely piece of unmistakable feedback — coated in genuine kindness — I learned the lesson again.  We really respect our listeners and find your emails invaluable as we steer this ship we’ve built.  Write any time.  hello@kellycorrigan.com.  We read every one.
Micah’s book is:  Blessed Are the Rest of Us: How Limits and Longing Make Us Whole

A listener helps me get back on track...

Go To on Blindspots and Making Amends

How much can we blame DNA for our depression and anxiety? Is something about our mental health pre-written into our genetic code? How much trauma carries over from one generation to the next? How should we think about epi-genetics? These were 4 of the 20 questions I brought to Dr. Francis Collins, the guy who let the team that mapped the human genome. There’s two things I want to say about this episode: I learned so much just studying for the interview and every minute I spent with Francis Collins was a total joy. He is a very special person — direct, deeply informed (maybe moreso on this topic than anyone else on Earth) and delightful. I am so excited to put his guy in your ear — a happy, loving man filled with purpose and eager to share what he knows (and doesn’t) for the greater good. And he laughs easily and a lot. So, I was getting hits of my dad the whole time. A heavenly experience that comes through in every minute of the conversation. Enjoy.

Thanks to PBS stations across the country for supporting <a href="https://www.pbs.org/show/tell-me-more-kelly-corrigan/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tell Me More</a>. You can watch an edited video version of this conversation anytime at <a href="https://www.pbs.org/show/tell-me-more-kelly-corrigan/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PBS.org/kelly</a>.

How much can we blame DNA for our depression and anxiety?  Is something about our mental health pre-written into our genetic code?   How much trauma carries over from one generation to the next?   How should we think about epi-genetics?  These were 4 of the 20 questions I brought to Dr. Francis Collins, the guy who let the team that mapped the human genome.  There’s two things I want to say about this episode: I learned so much just studying for the interview and every minute I spent with Francis Collins was a total joy.  He is a very special person — direct, deeply informed (maybe moreso on this topic than anyone else on Earth) and delightful.  I am so excited to put his guy in your ear — a happy, loving man filled with purpose and eager to share what he knows (and doesn’t) for the greater good.  And he laughs easily and a lot.  So, I was getting hits of my dad the whole time.  A heavenly experience that comes through in every minute of the conversation.  Enjoy.
Thanks to PBS stations across the country for supporting Tell Me More.  You can watch an edited video version of this conversation anytime at PBS.org/kelly.

Meet my new favorite person...

Going Deep on Nature with Dr. Francis Collins

Writer <a href="https://courtneyemartin.com/about-me/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Courtney Martin </a>wrote this loving, humorous tribute to her mother for her 75th birthday. Along with detailing some of her mom’s quirks that used to drive her crazy (but which at age 43 she now appreciates), Courtney also lovingly describes her many incredible qualities. (Previously aired)

Writer Courtney Martin wrote this loving, humorous tribute to her mother for her 75th birthday.  Along with detailing some of her mom’s quirks that used to drive her crazy (but which at age 43 she now appreciates), Courtney also lovingly describes her many incredible qualities. (Previously aired)

A loving, funny tribute to a special mom on her 75th

Thanks For Being Here Courtney's Letter for Her Mom's 75th Birthday

When my girls were young, I must have told them a hundred times: you get what you give. I believe it like I believe the sun will rise tomorrow. Chris Anderson, the genius do-gooder behind TED, believes it too. And with good reason. He’s seen generous giving pay off in big ways — giving his brand to TEDx conferences around the world, giving away TED speeches to anyone who wanted them online, giving attention, support and contributions to the most focused, devoted, strategic efforts on the planet. This is an episode for anyone looking for inspiration.

Chris’ new book is <a href="https://www.infectiousgenerosity.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Infectious Generosity: The Ultimate Idea Worth Spreading </a>

When my girls were young, I must have told them a hundred times: you get what you give.  I believe it like I believe the sun will rise tomorrow.  Chris Anderson, the genius do-gooder behind TED, believes it too.  And with good reason.  He’s seen generous giving pay off in big ways — giving his brand to TEDx conferences around the world, giving away TED speeches to anyone who wanted them online, giving attention, support and contributions to the most focused, devoted, strategic efforts on the planet.  This is an episode for anyone looking for inspiration.
Chris’ new book is Infectious Generosity: The Ultimate Idea Worth Spreading

Reaching the tipping point for generous action

Go To on Infectious Generosity

Here’s why I had to sit with Dr. Dima Amso, who teaches and runs a lab that studies developmental cognition at Columbia: in a sea of hyperbole, she offers the voice of sanity and moderation, clarifying basic ideas like “good enough parenting.” For anyone who wonders how well-being is affected by our earliest childhood environments and relationships, this is the conversation for you. Please share widely with everyone who is feeling trapped by their personal history, as imperfect parents or as grown children of imperfect parents.

Thanks to PBS stations across the country for supporting <a href="https://www.pbs.org/show/tell-me-more-kelly-corrigan/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tell Me More</a>. You can watch an edited video version of this conversation anytime at <a href="https://www.pbs.org/show/tell-me-more-kelly-corrigan/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PBS.org/kelly</a>.

Here’s why I had to sit with Dr. Dima Amso, who teaches and runs a lab that studies developmental cognition at Columbia: in a sea of hyperbole, she offers the voice of sanity and moderation, clarifying basic ideas like “good enough parenting.”  For anyone who wonders how well-being is affected by our earliest childhood environments and relationships, this is the conversation for you.  Please share widely with everyone who is feeling trapped by their personal history, as imperfect parents or as grown children of imperfect parents.
Thanks to PBS stations across the country for supporting Tell Me More.  You can watch an edited video version of this conversation anytime at PBS.org/kelly.

Nature, Nurture and Good Enough Parenting

Going Deep on Childhood with Dr. Dima Amso 

Michelle Hurst celebrates her husband and their marriage on the occasion of their 20th Anniversary. From 23 year-old newlyweds finding their way in the world to 43 year-old’s who have shared a puppy, kids, a mortgage and decades of meaningful memories - they have navigated it all together. (Previously aired)

Michelle Hurst celebrates her husband and their marriage on the occasion of their 20th Anniversary. From 23 year-old newlyweds finding their way in the world to 43 year-old’s who have shared a puppy, kids, a mortgage and decades of meaningful memories - they have navigated it all together.  (Previously aired)

Twenty years feels like forever and a moment. 

Thanks For Being Here Michelle's 20th Anniversary Essay

There is a lot to know about what makes love last. People like John Gottman and Helen Fisher have been studying sex, love and connection for decades. Here’s a few excellent ideas to hold on to as you live out the day to day of your core relationships. Very good episode to share with your partner. Will start a valuable conversation! (Previously aired.)

Kelly mentions that our episode with Dr. Helen Fisher will air next week, which is not actually the case as this is a replay BUT you can listen to that episode with the incredible Dr. Fisher <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/love-sex-and-connection-with-dr-helen-fisher/id1532951390?i=1000596236245" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">HERE</a>.

There is a lot to know about what makes love last.  People like John Gottman and Helen Fisher have been studying sex, love and connection for decades.  Here’s a few excellent ideas to hold on to as you live out the day to day of your core relationships.  Very good episode to share with your partner. Will start a valuable conversation!  (Previously aired.)
Kelly mentions that our episode with Dr. Helen Fisher will air next week, which is not actually the case as this is a replay BUT you can listen to that episode with the incredible Dr. Fisher HERE.

What makes love last?

Go To on Long Term Love

Is it nature? Is it nurture? Is it daily choices or the contexts we live in? What are the drivers of well being? This conversation kicks off a 10-part series of Being Well where we talk to the best researchers and scientists in the country about how to feel good about our lives and in our lives — what’s true and trustworthy and evident in the data … and what’s a bunch of Tik Tok nonsense. Today, we’re with two friends of the show, neuroscientist <a href="https://lisafeldmanbarrett.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett</a> (How Emotions Are Made) and surgeon and public health lead at USAID, <a href="https://atulgawande.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Atul Gawande</a> (Being Mortal) as well as <a href="https://nurturescienceprogram.org/dani-dumitriu-bio/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Dani Dumitriu </a>from Columbia. Settle in for a conversation that’s as informative as it is delightful. And please share with anyone you know who wants to feel better.

Thanks to PBS for supporting this work. You can watch an edited version of this conversation anytime at PBS.org/kelly.

Is it nature?  Is it nurture?  Is it daily choices or the contexts we live in?  What are the drivers of well being?  This conversation kicks off a 10-part series of Being Well where we talk to the best researchers and scientists in the country about how to feel good about our lives and in our lives — what’s true and trustworthy and evident in the data … and what’s a bunch of Tik Tok nonsense.  Today, we’re with two friends of the show, neuroscientist Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett (How Emotions Are Made) and surgeon and public health lead at USAID, Dr. Atul Gawande (Being Mortal) as well as Dr. Dani Dumitriu from Columbia.  Settle in for a conversation that’s as informative as it is delightful.  And please share with anyone you know who wants to feel better.
Thanks to PBS for supporting this work.  You can watch an edited version of this conversation anytime at PBS.org/kelly.

Three of the best MDs in the US compare notes on well being...

Going Deep with Three Brilliant Doctors on Well Being

Kelly recently found an old letter (hidden away in a closet in Bozeman) that she had written to her mom, way back in 1991. It’s good to look back sometimes at old letters and half-finished journal entries and be reminded of who we were - and who we wanted to become.

Kelly recently found an old letter (hidden away in a closet in Bozeman) that she had written to her mom, way back in 1991.  It’s good to look back sometimes at old letters and half-finished journal entries and be reminded of who we were - and who we wanted to become.

Things aren't always as we remember them

Thanks For Being Here Kelly Finds an Old Letter to her Mom

Observations on what cancer made visible to me.

Observations on what cancer made visible to me.

What you learn when things go very wrong

Go To on The Lessons of Crisis

Kelly talks with New Yorker staff writer Jia Tolentino about identity, culture and the irresistable manipulation of the internet. Jia is a 32-year old intellectual phenom who just came out with her first book of essays called Trick Mirror. She's part feminist, part radical thinker and part cultural critic, and she has a lot to say about what it means to be human in today's world. (Previously aired)

Kelly talks with New Yorker staff writer Jia Tolentino about identity, culture and the irresistable manipulation of the internet. Jia is a 32-year old intellectual phenom who just came out with her first book of essays called Trick Mirror. She's part feminist, part radical thinker and part cultural critic, and she has a lot to say about what it means to be human in today's world. (Previously aired)

Kelly continues her conversation with writers on Human Nature with New Yorker staff writer and intellectual phenom, Jia Tolentino.

Going Deep with Jia Tolentino on Finding Truth in a Manipulative World 

Keith Romano wrote and delivered this eulogy for his father Patrick Romano, a lover of sports who believed that teamwork was always more important than talent. Keith honors his father’s uncompromising values and beliefs, his sense of humor and the example he set for his family…illustrated by the “no look pass” something Patrick always felt was the perfect intersection of teamwork, skill and grace. (Previously aired)

Keith Romano wrote and delivered this eulogy for his father Patrick Romano, a lover of sports who believed that teamwork was always more important than talent.  Keith honors his father’s uncompromising values and beliefs, his sense of humor and the example he set for his family…illustrated by the “no look pass” something Patrick always felt was the perfect intersection of teamwork, skill and grace.  (Previously aired)

The "no look pass" is an act of beauty

Thanks For Being Here Keith's Eulogy for his Dad Patrick

Intuition. Wisdom. Time. These are just some of the assets the Badass Grandmas bring to their bipartisan work. This one is for anyone who needs a kick in the pants and a reason to believe tomorrow will be better than today.

Intuition.  Wisdom.  Time.  These are just some of the assets the Badass Grandmas bring to their bipartisan work.   This one is for anyone who needs a kick in the pants and a reason to believe tomorrow will be better than today.

Women working together...

Go To on Badass Grandmas

There’s so many people who claim to be experts about family life. <a href="https://drlisadamour.com/" title="Dr. Lisa Damour" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Lisa Damour</a> is the real deal. This is one of the most useful conversations I have ever had on the podcast. Listen. Share. Listen again. It’s loaded with gems. (Previously aired)

Check out Lisa’s book: <a href="https://drlisadamour.com/books/the-emotional-lives-of-teenagers/" title="Dr. Lisa Damour" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Emotional Lives of Teenagers - Raising Connected, Capable and Compassionate Adolescents.</a>

There’s so many people who claim to be experts about family life. Dr. Lisa Damour is the real deal. This is one of the most useful conversations I have ever had on the podcast. Listen. Share. Listen again. It’s loaded with gems. (Previously aired)
Check out Lisa’s book: The Emotional Lives of Teenagers - Raising Connected, Capable and Compassionate Adolescents.

A good parenting session with the author of The Emotional Lives of Teenagers 

Going Deep with Dr. Lisa Damour on Feelings, Friction and Family 

Heather Clay submitted her magical, beautifully written essay “Elephants”, after a two-week trip to Africa. Part travelogue, part reflective journal entry, Heather details the sights, sounds and emotions from the trip of a lifetime. As much a trip to experience the beauty and majesty of Africa, it was also a chance for ten female friends to interrupt their normal, everyday, work/family lives and do something just for themselves - and for each other.

Heather Clay’s novel that Kelly references and loves is: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Losing-Charlotte-Heather-Clay/dp/0375415386" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Losing Charlotte</a>.

Heather Clay submitted her magical, beautifully written essay “Elephants”, after a two-week trip to Africa. Part travelogue, part reflective journal entry, Heather details the sights, sounds and emotions from the trip of a lifetime.  As much a trip to experience the beauty and majesty of Africa, it was also a chance for ten female friends to interrupt their normal, everyday, work/family lives and do something just for themselves - and for each other.
Heather Clay’s novel that Kelly references and loves is: Losing Charlotte.

Elephants are not that interested in who you think you are

Thanks For Being Here  Heather Clay's Essay "Elephants"

Here’s a word that everyone is saying these days: mindfulness. I don’t totally know what it means, officially, but I have jerry-rigged a little process to help me mind the moment, to see the day for the small miracle that it is and enter it with intention — and it’s working for me. So, see what you think. And let me know if you have ideas or tweaks on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellycorrigan/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>. (Previously aired)

Here’s a word that everyone is saying these days: mindfulness.  I don’t totally know what it means, officially, but I have jerry-rigged a little process to help me mind the moment, to see the day for the small miracle that it is and enter it with intention — and it’s working for me.  So, see what you think.  And let me know if you have ideas or tweaks on Instagram. (Previously aired)

Using all my senses to tie me to the moment.

Go To on Figuring Out Mindfulness

Though we dream of big overhauls, national change often comes after many states and cities sprinkled across the country come to the same conclusion about what’s best. I loved talking to Josh Graham Lynn, who co-founded the bi-partisan organization <a href="https://represent.us/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Represent.us </a>to fight corruption and fix America. In the decade they’ve been up and running, their work has focused on matching pubic support for a given law and the passage of said law. Here’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfQij4aQq1k&amp;t=2s" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jennifer Lawrence </a>explaining why government doesn’t represent us and what to do about it (e.g. ranked choice voting…).

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Though we dream of big overhauls, national change often comes after many states and cities sprinkled across the country come to the same conclusion about what’s best.  I loved talking to Josh Graham Lynn, who co-founded the bi-partisan organization Represent.us to fight corruption and fix America.  In the decade they’ve been up and running, their work has focused on matching pubic support for a given law and the passage of said law.  Here’s Jennifer Lawrence explaining why government doesn’t represent us and what to do about it (e.g. ranked choice voting…).
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Fixing society one law at a time...

Going Deep on Fighting Corruption with Joshua Graham Lynn

A letter from Kelly to honor the many special nurses who have provided care to her and the people she loves.

A letter from Kelly to honor the many special nurses who have provided care to her and the people she loves.

These girls are angels

Thanks For Being Here  Kelly's Letter to the Nurses

Here’s something I know for sure, as Oprah would say…the more specifically you can communicate, the more deeply you can connect. Today’s Go To is my case for reading more, taken from a TEDx Sonoma <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I_M0k-jubQ" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">talk I gave 10 years ago. </a>I stand by every word.

Here’s something I know for sure, as Oprah would say…the more specifically you can communicate, the more deeply you can connect.  Today’s Go To is my case for reading more, taken from a TEDx Sonoma talk I gave 10 years ago.  I stand by every word.

What's at stake when we choose our words?

Go To on The Power of Words

Every so often, Kelly Corrigan Wonders will make space in our feed for someone else’s podcast. In this case, Kelly is sharing an episode of To The Best of Our Knowledge. It’s a beautifully produced and fascinating episode about time - specifically about how the Earth keeps time and how we as humans relate to it. Enjoy.

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Every so often, Kelly Corrigan Wonders will make space in our feed for someone else’s podcast.  In this case, Kelly is sharing an episode of To The Best of Our Knowledge.  It’s a beautifully produced and fascinating episode about time - specifically about how the Earth keeps time and how we as humans relate to it.  Enjoy.
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Sharing something special to get your wheels turning

Kelly Shares an Episode of To The Best of Our Knowledge

Renowned educator Wanda Holland Greene joins Kelly to dig into finding common ground with absolutely anyone, even people we think we hate. They discuss the transformative power of discovering the many things we all share.

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Renowned educator Wanda Holland Greene joins Kelly to dig into finding common ground with absolutely anyone, even people we think we hate. They discuss the transformative power of discovering the many things we all share.
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Is possible to find common ground with absolutely anyone, even people we think we hate?

Going Deep with Wanda Holland Greene on Finding Common Ground

Three decades after graduating, Martha Zeeman wrote this letter of gratitude to Marsie, her randomly-selected college suite-mate at the University of North Carolina. After a bit of a rough start to her freshman year, Martha finally found her way thanks to the kindness and support of Marsie. This is the story of an enduring friendship and the magical surprise that was born of it 33 years later.

Three decades after graduating, Martha Zeeman wrote this letter of gratitude to Marsie, her randomly-selected college suite-mate at the University of North Carolina.  After a bit of a rough start to her freshman year, Martha finally found her way thanks to the kindness and support of Marsie. This is the story of an enduring friendship and the magical surprise that was born of it 33 years later.

Friends make life better

Thanks for Being Here  Martha's Letter to her College Roommate Marsie

This is a counter intuitive idea that might not land for everyone but deserved to be shared for group consideration. I am very curious what you think so please write us at <a href="mailto:hello@kellycorrigan.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">hello@kellycorrigan.com</a> with your reactions. The concept here is at odds with recent conventional wisdom. I found it surprising but potentially powerful.

For more, listen to episodes with <a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/richardlui" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. George Bonanno</a> and <a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/samanthboardman" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Samantha Boardman</a> on Kelly Corrigan Wonders.

This is a counter intuitive idea that might not land for everyone but deserved to be shared for  group consideration.  I am very curious what you think so please write us at hello@kellycorrigan.com with your reactions.  The concept here is at odds with recent conventional wisdom.  I found it surprising but potentially powerful.
For more, listen to episodes with Dr. George Bonanno and Dr. Samantha Boardman on Kelly Corrigan Wonders.

Counter intuitive idea that just might work...

Go To on Sweeping Trauma Under the Rug

Forgiveness may be the most advanced intellectual and emotional move we make as humans. It is a complete override of our innate nature to categorize friend and foe. Along with thought leader Wanda Holland Greene, Kelly brings to life three unforgettable stories of forgiveness from around the world. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. Previously aired. 

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Forgiveness may be the most advanced intellectual and emotional move we make as humans. It is a complete override of our innate nature to categorize friend and foe. Along with thought leader Wanda Holland Greene, Kelly brings to life three unforgettable stories of forgiveness from around the world. Follow the conversation on Instagram @kellycorrigan. Previously aired. 
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Three true stories of exquisite forgiveness

Going Deep with Wanda Holland Greene on Forgiveness

Quite often, it’s hard to know how to properly show up for a friend who’s going through a tough time - that is, until you’ve been through the experience yourself and can relate more fully. This is Kelly’s letter to friends who have lost a parent and also to those of us who feel we could have shown up for someone in a better way.

Quite often, it’s hard to know how to properly show up for a friend who’s going through a tough time - that is, until you’ve been through the experience yourself and can relate more fully.  This is Kelly’s letter to friends who have lost a parent and also to those of us who feel we could have shown up for someone in a better way.

You don't know until you know

Thanks For Being Here  When a Friend Loses a Parent

Breaking down the principles, practices and tactics of conflict resolution to be shared with anyone who is struggling to reach new levels understanding with friends, family and neighbors. A very simple set of moves that just might break the tension.

Reference: <a href="https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/images/uploads/Bridging_Differences_Playbook-Final.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bridging Differences Playbook</a> created by the <a href="https://ggsc.berkeley.edu/what_we_do/major_initiatives/bridging_differences" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Greater Good Science Center</a>.

Breaking down the principles, practices and tactics of conflict resolution to be shared with anyone who is struggling to reach new levels understanding with friends, family and neighbors.  A very simple set of moves that just might break the tension.
Reference: Bridging Differences Playbook created by the Greater Good Science Center.

Tips to keep handy

Go To on Tough Conversations 

For the closing episode of our Rupture + Repair series, we are offering a most unusual conversation between two women who are on opposite sides of the Reproductive Rights debate: April Lawson, a pro-life conservative, and me, a pro-choice liberal. We share this in the hopes that it can serve as a model for hard but productive conversations around tender topics. As always, we welcome your responses. <a href="mailto:hello@kellycorrigan.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">hello@kellycorrigan.com</a>

Please note: This episode includes references to incest and sexual assault.

Special thanks to the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations for their generous support of this series.

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<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/monicaguzman" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Mónica Guzmán on Making Family Work</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/julieandjohngottman" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Drs. Julie and John Gottman on Fighting Right</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/manumeel" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Manu Meel on Making College Work</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/simongreer" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Simon Greer on Making Faith Work</a>

For the closing episode of our Rupture + Repair series, we are offering a most unusual conversation between two women who are on opposite sides of the Reproductive Rights debate: April Lawson, a pro-life conservative, and me, a pro-choice liberal.  We share this in the hopes that it can serve as a model for hard but productive conversations around tender topics.  As always, we welcome your responses.  hello@kellycorrigan.com
Please note: This episode includes references to incest and sexual assault.
Special thanks to the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations for their generous support of this series.
To receive a short set of our weekly takeaways in your email, sign up here.
Check out the episodes from our Rupture + Repair series:
Going Deep with Mónica Guzmán on Making Family Work
Going Deep with Drs. Julie and John Gottman on Fighting Right
Going Deep with Manu Meel on Making College Work
Going Deep with Simon Greer on Making Faith Work

A heart to heart between new friends...

Going Deep on Reproductive Rights with April Lawson  

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/tamargendler" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tamar Gendler</a>, a former guest on Kelly Corrigan Wonders, wrote this exquisite eulogy for her father Everett. Everett was a brilliant man who was always ahead of his time and yet, in many ways, he was also behind. He enjoyed his meals at a leisurely pace, eschewed modern technology in favor of old-fashioned items and ways of doing things and published his first book at age 86. Everett was not only “ahead” and “behind”, he was also fully present - his life was filled with radical astonishment at the beauty of the world around him and those who inhabited it alongside him.

Tamar Gendler, a former guest on Kelly Corrigan Wonders, wrote this exquisite eulogy for her father Everett.  Everett was a brilliant man who was always ahead of his time and yet, in many ways, he was also behind.  He enjoyed his meals at a leisurely pace, eschewed modern technology in favor of old-fashioned items and ways of doing things and published his first book at age 86.  Everett was not only “ahead” and “behind”, he was also fully present - his life was filled with radical astonishment at the beauty of the world around him and those who inhabited it alongside him.

Sometimes ahead of the times, sometimes behind - he was always present

Thanks For Being Here Tamar's Eulogy for her Father Everett

As you’ll hear in this short letter from me to you, I am a little nervous about next week’s episode. It’s a conversation between a pro-life conservative named April Lawson and a pro-choice liberal (named Kelly Corrigan). I wanted to take a minute before the episode hits the feed to explain why I did this and to ask you for a wide berth, both for me and for my guest, as we dare to let down our guards and have a heart to heart about reproductive rights. It’s our attempt to model respectful conversations where the differences are vast.

Special thanks to the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations for their generous support of this series.

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Check out the episodes from our Rupture + Repair series:

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/monicaguzman" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Mónica Guzmán on Making Family Work</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/julieandjohngottman" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Drs. Julie and John Gottman on Fighting Right</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/manumeel" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Manu Meel on Making College Work</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/simongreer" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Simon Greer on Making Faith Work</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/aprillawson" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with April Lawson on Reproductive Rights</a>

As you’ll hear in this short letter from me to you, I am a little nervous about next week’s episode.  It’s a conversation between a pro-life conservative named April Lawson and a pro-choice liberal (named Kelly Corrigan).  I wanted to take a minute before the episode hits the feed to explain why I did this and to ask you for a wide berth, both for me and for my guest, as we dare to let down our guards and have a heart to heart about reproductive rights.  It’s our attempt to model respectful conversations where the differences are vast.
Special thanks to the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations for their generous support of this series.
To receive a short set of our weekly takeaways in your email, sign up here.
Check out the episodes from our Rupture + Repair series:
Going Deep with Mónica Guzmán on Making Family Work
Going Deep with Drs. Julie and John Gottman on Fighting Right
Going Deep with Manu Meel on Making College Work
Going Deep with Simon Greer on Making Faith Work
Going Deep with April Lawson on Reproductive Rights

I'm scared to release next week's Deep Dive...

Go To on Asking for Mercy 

Every so often, Kelly Corrigan Wonders will make space in our feed for someone else’s podcast. In this case, Kelly is sharing an episode of the podcast Love Letters. Today’s episode is called “Find Your People” and is the story of Ray and Maria who met at a summer camp, and how they affected one another’s lives. Enjoy. To receive a short set of our weekly takeaways in your email, <a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/takeaways" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sign up here</a>.

Every so often, Kelly Corrigan Wonders will make space in our feed for someone else’s podcast.  In this case, Kelly is sharing an episode of the podcast Love Letters.  Today’s episode is called “Find Your People” and is the story of Ray and Maria who met at a summer camp, and how they affected one another’s lives. Enjoy.  To receive a short set of our weekly takeaways in your email, sign up here.

Kelly Shares the Love Letter Podcast

Is it really possible to talk lovingly and openly, face to face, with someone who thinks you’re going to hell? It better be because when true believers of various faiths come together, big hard things are going to be said. My guest is knee deep in this kind of work. Simon Greer tells us the story of spending 3 weeks in conversation with Oberlin students and evangelicals from Spring Arbor University. His experiences hold many answers for how we, as Americans, might be able to actually know and understand one another. An excellent conversation to share with your most faithful friends.

Special thanks to the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations for their generous support of this series.

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<a href="https://www.interfaithamerica.org/resources/differences-student-story/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Link</a> to the short film featuring Simon’s conversation with Evangelical Christian Elizabeth Stewart: <a href="https://www.interfaithamerica.org/resources/differences-student-story/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.interfaithamerica.org/resources/differences-student-story/</a>

Check out the other episodes from our Rupture + Repair series:

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/monicaguzman" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Mónica Guzmán on Making Family Work</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/julieandjohngottman" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Drs. Julie and John Gottman on Fighting Right</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/manumeel" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Manu Meel on Making College Work</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/aprillawson" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with April Lawson on Reproductive Rights</a>

Is it really possible to talk lovingly and openly, face to face, with someone who thinks you’re going to hell?   It better be because when true believers of various faiths come together, big hard things are going to be said.  My guest is knee deep in this kind of work.  Simon Greer tells us the story of spending 3 weeks in conversation with Oberlin students and evangelicals from Spring Arbor University.  His experiences hold many answers for how we, as Americans, might be able to actually know and understand one another.  An excellent conversation to share with your most faithful friends.
Special thanks to the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations for their generous support of this series.
To receive a short set of our weekly takeaways in your email, sign up here.
Link to the short film featuring Simon’s conversation with Evangelical Christian Elizabeth Stewart:  https://www.interfaithamerica.org/resources/differences-student-story/
Check out the other episodes from our Rupture + Repair series:
Going Deep with Mónica Guzmán on Making Family Work
Going Deep with Drs. Julie and John Gottman on Fighting Right
Going Deep with Manu Meel on Making College Work
Going Deep with April Lawson on Reproductive Rights

A bi-sexual atheist and an evangelical walk into a college dorm room...

Going Deep with Simon Greer on Making Faith Work

Carter paints a vivid picture of her popular Baltimore mom Sally who always gave back and had plenty of love to spare. Whether it was founding an organization to help others, sitting on a board, creating the best Christmas ever or simply spreading love and joy to her family and beyond, Sally was a force for good. (Previously aired)

Please note: because this is a “previously aired” episode, next Tuesday’s Kelly Corrigan Wonders will not feature Kate Bowler as referenced at the end of the episode. It will be Kelly’s interview with Simon Greer as a part of our Rupture + Repair series.

Carter paints a vivid picture of her popular Baltimore mom Sally who always gave back and had plenty of love to spare.  Whether it was founding an organization to help others, sitting on a board, creating the best Christmas ever or simply spreading love and joy to her family and beyond, Sally was a force for good. (Previously aired)
Please note:  because this is a “previously aired” episode, next Tuesday’s Kelly Corrigan Wonders will not feature Kate Bowler as referenced at the end of the episode.  It will be Kelly’s interview with Simon Greer as a part of our Rupture + Repair series.

She made a gift of her whole life

Thanks For Being Here  Carter's Mom Sally

I spent about an hour with Matthew McConaughey in Bentonville AR at <a href="https://heartlandforward.org/heartland-summit/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Heartland Summit.</a> We talked about acting, of course, but he really sat up straight when I started asking him about gun safety. He and his wife, Camila, are deeply invested in the issue and I am happy to share that progress is being made. So enjoy this conversation and share with folks who care about school safety or just have a big crush on Matthew.

Special thanks to my friends at<a href="https://heartlandforward.org/heartland-summit/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> </a><a href="https://heartlandforward.org/about/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Heartland Forward</a> and to <a href="https://jklivinfoundation.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Matthew </a>for his work on the <a href="https://www.greenlightsgrantinitiative.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Greenlights Grant Initiative.</a>

I spent about an hour with Matthew McConaughey in Bentonville AR at The Heartland Summit.  We talked about acting, of course, but he really sat up straight when I started asking him about gun safety.  He and his wife, Camila, are deeply invested in the issue and I am happy to share that progress is being made.  So enjoy this conversation and share with folks who care about school safety or just have a big crush on Matthew.
Special thanks to my friends at Heartland Forward and to Matthew for his work on the Greenlights Grant Initiative.

Special surprise interview 

Go To with Matthew McConaughey 

<a href="https://www.bridgeusa.org/our-team/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Manu Meel </a>is helping college kids talk to each other — inside and outside of classes, individually and in groups, in person and online — about all kinds of important issues where there is a lot of disagreement. He is also as positive and bright as any guest we’ve ever had.

Special thanks to the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations for their generous support of this series.

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Check out the other episodes from our Rupture + Repair series:

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/monicaguzman" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Mónica Guzmán on Making Family Work</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/julieandjohngottman" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Drs. Julie and John Gottman on Fighting Right</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/simongreer" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Simon Greer on Making Faith Work</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/aprillawson" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with April Lawson on Reproductive Rights</a>

Manu Meel is helping college kids talk to each other — inside and outside of classes, individually and in groups, in person and online — about all kinds of important issues where there is a lot of disagreement.  He is also as positive and bright as any guest we’ve ever had.
Special thanks to the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations for their generous support of this series.
Every Wednesday we send out our top takeaways of the week to listeners.  If you’d like to receive that email, sign up here.
Check out the other episodes from our Rupture + Repair series:
Going Deep with Mónica Guzmán on Making Family Work
Going Deep with Drs. Julie and John Gottman on Fighting Right
Going Deep with Simon Greer on Making Faith Work
Going Deep with April Lawson on Reproductive Rights

Learning how to talk about the big stuff...

Going Deep with Manu Meel on Making College Work

Today’s Thanks For Being Here is a eulogy written by Kelly’s dear friend Tracy Tuttle McGowan for her mother Michele White. Michele was someone who lived life in the ready position, a scout always on the lookout for any way she could make the day overflow with wonder. A lover of travel, she particularly appreciated all things French and embodied “joie de vivre”. Michele walked through life wowed by beauty and made it her business on every occasion, and in all surroundings, to make things more lovely.

Today’s Thanks For Being Here is a eulogy written by Kelly’s dear friend Tracy Tuttle McGowan for her mother Michele White. Michele was someone who lived life in the ready position, a scout always on the lookout for any way she could make the day overflow with wonder. A lover of travel, she particularly appreciated all things French and embodied “joie de vivre”.  Michele walked through life wowed by beauty and made it her business on every occasion, and in all surroundings, to make things more lovely.

Honoring a fellow lover of wonder

Thanks For Being Here  Tracy's Eulogy for Her Mom Michele

Life is more often in between than high and low. We are also usually somewhere between our very best self and our very worst. We know this but it helps to reflect on that fairly frequently. Here’s a few blessings from <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Have-Beautiful-Terrible-Day-Betweens/dp/0593727673" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kate Bowler’s new book, Have a Beautiful, Terrible Day. </a>

Previous conversations with Kate:

<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/everything-happens-for-a-reason-with-kate-bowler/id1532951390?i=1000493707408" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Everything Happens for a Reason with Kate Bowler</a>

<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/cycling-through-all-the-emotions-with-kate-bowler-and/id1532951390?i=1000564649671" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Cycling Through All the Emotions with Kate Bowler and Arthur C. Brooks</a>

<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/looking-back-with-kate-bowler-at-the-truly-crappy/id1532951390?i=1000590730241" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Looking Back with Kate Bowler at the Truly Crappy</a>

<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/looking-back-with-kate-bowler-at-all-things-happy/id1532951390?i=1000591403129" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Looking Back with Kate Bowler at All Things Happy </a>

<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/claire-danes-and-kate-bowler-book-clubbing-with-kelly-part-1/id1532951390?i=1000615836794" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Claire Danes and Kate Bowler Book Clubbing with Kelly Part 1</a>

<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/claire-danes-and-kate-bowler-book-clubbing-with-kelly-part-2/id1532951390?i=1000616796447" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Claire Danes and Kate Bowler Book Clubbing with Kelly Part 2</a>

<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/claire-danes-and-kate-bowler-book-clubbing-with-kelly-part-3/id1532951390?i=1000617681866" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Claire Danes and Kate Bowler Book Clubbing with Kelly Part 3</a>

<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/go-to-on-grief/id1532951390?i=1000627178611" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Go To on Grief</a>

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Life is more often in between than high and low.  We are also usually somewhere between our very best self and our very worst.  We know this but it helps to reflect on that fairly frequently.   Here’s a few blessings from Kate Bowler’s new book, Have a Beautiful, Terrible Day.  
Previous conversations with Kate:
Everything Happens for a Reason with Kate Bowler
Cycling Through All the Emotions with Kate Bowler and Arthur C. Brooks
Looking Back with Kate Bowler at the Truly Crappy
Looking Back with Kate Bowler at All Things Happy 
Claire Danes and Kate Bowler Book Clubbing with Kelly Part 1
Claire Danes and Kate Bowler Book Clubbing with Kelly Part 2
Claire Danes and Kate Bowler Book Clubbing with Kelly Part 3
Go To on Grief
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Have a beautiful, terrible day...

Go To A Blessing or Two from Kate Bowler

Doctors <a href="https://www.gottman.com/about/john-julie-gottman/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Julie Schwartz Gottman and John Gottman </a>are probably the world’s reigning experts on relationships. They are well into their 5th decade of research that reveals why we treat each other as we do and how a few small but essential adjustments to our everyday patterns could change our relationships for the better. Everything we talked about is applicable across the board - from couples to parents and children and all the people we work with. We predict this will be our most shared episode of 2024. Enjoy.

Check out the Gottman's’ new book: <a href="https://www.gottman.com/product/fight-right/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Fight Right: How Successful Couples Turn Conflict Into Connection</a>

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<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/monicaguzman" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Mónica Guzmán on Making Family Work</a>

Doctors Julie Schwartz Gottman and John Gottman are probably the world’s reigning experts on relationships.  They are well into their 5th decade of research that reveals why we treat each other as we do and how a few small but essential adjustments to our everyday patterns could change our relationships for the better.  Everything we talked about is applicable across the board - from couples to parents and children and all the people we work with.  We predict this will be our most shared episode of 2024.  Enjoy.
Check out the Gottman's’ new book:  Fight Right: How Successful Couples Turn Conflict Into Connection
Special thanks to the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations for their generous support of this series.
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Check out the other episodes from our Rupture + Repair series:
Going Deep with Mónica Guzmán on Making Family Work

Bids, ratios and other key elements that help us stay together

Going Deep with Julie and John Gottman on Fighting Right  

Kirsten’s dad Tom was beloved by his kids and grandkids (one of whom couldn’t pronounce the letter “T”, resulting in the nickname Papa Fom). Tom was a man who loved the simple pleasures in life: playing and winning various games, flying balsa wood planes with his family, joking around, drawing and painting, eating candy, playing “house” and “school” with his grandkids or letting them climb all the way up his body to stand on his shoulders. He really loved the little things and everyday moments were his favorites. (Previously aired)

Kirsten’s dad Tom was beloved by his kids and grandkids (one of whom couldn’t pronounce the letter “T”, resulting in the nickname Papa Fom).  Tom was a man who loved the simple pleasures in life: playing and winning various games, flying balsa wood planes with his family, joking around, drawing and painting, eating candy, playing “house” and “school” with his grandkids or letting them climb all the way up his body to stand on his shoulders. He really loved the little things and everyday moments were his favorites. (Previously aired)

Everyday moments were his favorites

Thanks For Being Here  Kirsten's Dad Tom AKA Papa Fom

What happens in the first 180 seconds of a fight determine its outcome at least 90% of the time. For real. This is a basic truth that every one of us needs to understand and an episode to share with our partners! Many thanks to <a href="https://www.gottman.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Drs. Julie and John Gottman</a> for four decades of work and their new book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fight-Right-Successful-Conflict-Connection/dp/0593579658" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Fight Right. </a>

Special thanks to the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations.

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What happens in the first 180 seconds of a fight determine its outcome at least 90% of the time.  For real.  This is a basic truth that every one of us needs to understand and an episode to share with our partners!  Many thanks to Drs. Julie and John Gottman for four decades of work and their new book, Fight Right.  
Special thanks to the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations.
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Thoughts from relationship experts Julie and John Gottman

Go To on Fighting Nicely 

Moni Guzman came to the US from Mexico with her family many decades ago. In the past two presidential elections, her parents voted for Trump while she voted for Clinton and Biden. This created the kind of tension that must be managed very carefully. Fortunately, and relatedly, Moni has professional experience with difficult conversations in her capacity as a senior fellow at Braver Angels. We lean heavily on the ideas in Moni’s book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Never-Thought-That-Way-Conversations/dp/1637740328/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3Q5U35T4RXGVB&amp;keywords=i+never+thought+about+it+that+way&amp;qid=1704916167&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=i+never+thou%2Cstripbooks%2C201&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">I Never Thought of It That Way</a>, in this episode and throughout our 5-part series on getting along: Rupture + Repair.

Special thanks to the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations for their generous support of this series.

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Other episodes in the Rupture + Repair series include: 

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/julieandjohngottman" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Drs. Julie and John Gottman on Fighting Right</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/manumeel" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Manu Meel on Making College Work</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/simongreer" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with Simon Greer on Making Faith Work</a>

<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/kelly-corrigan-wonders/aprillawson" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Going Deep with April Lawson on Reproductive Rights</a>

Moni Guzman came to the US from Mexico with her family many decades ago.  In the past two presidential elections, her parents voted for Trump while she voted for Clinton and Biden.  This created the kind of tension that must be managed very carefully.  Fortunately, and relatedly, Moni has professional experience with difficult conversations in her capacity as a senior fellow at Braver Angels.  We lean heavily on the ideas in Moni’s book, I Never Thought of It That Way, in this episode and throughout our 5-part series on getting along: Rupture + Repair.
Special thanks to the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations for their generous support of this series.
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Other episodes in the Rupture + Repair series include: 
Going Deep with Drs. Julie and John Gottman on Fighting Right
Going Deep with Manu Meel on Making College Work
Going Deep with Simon Greer on Making Faith Work
Going Deep with April Lawson on Reproductive Rights

High stakes family conflict...

Going Deep with Mónica Guzmán on Making Family Work

Meghan Jarvis’ beautiful story of what happened as she holed herself up in a friend’s home to write her mother’s eulogy. This is for anyone who has written a eulogy and knows what an emotionally fraught yet transformative time it can be. (Previously aired)

Note that we have changed our email address from the one mentioned in this past episode. If you would like to reach out to us, please use: <a href="mailto:hello@kellycorrigan.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">hello@kellycorrigan.com</a>

Meghan Jarvis’ beautiful story of what happened as she holed herself up in a friend’s home to write her mother’s eulogy.  This is for anyone who has written a eulogy and knows what an emotionally fraught yet transformative time it can be. (Previously aired)
Note that we have changed our email address from the one mentioned in this past episode.  If you would like to reach out to us, please use:  hello@kellycorrigan.com

The story behind the story

Thanks For Being Here   Meghan's Story of Writing Her Mom's Eulogy

Does someone you love vote for someone you really do not love? This is a short piece about getting along from a book I found super valuable: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Never-Thought-That-Way-Conversations/dp/1637740328/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3Q5U35T4RXGVB&amp;keywords=i+never+thought+about+it+that+way&amp;qid=1704916167&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=i+never+thou%2Cstripbooks%2C201&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">I Never Thought Of It That Way by Monica Guzman</a>. She and her parents found themselves in opposite camps and needed a set of practices to make sure their rupture did not ever become beyond repair. 

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Does someone you love vote for someone you really do not love?  This is a short piece about getting along from a book I found super valuable: I Never Thought Of It That Way by Monica Guzman.  She and her parents found themselves in opposite camps and needed a set of practices to make sure their rupture did not ever become beyond repair.  
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What Moni Guzman learned on the steep hills of family conflict

Go To on Having Hard Conversations 

Every so often, Kelly Corrigan Wonders will make space in our feed for someone else’s podcast. In this case, Kelly is sharing a conversation between two former guests — Dan Harris and Bryan Stevenson — because we can never think about the hard work of justice enough. Enjoy.

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Every so often, Kelly Corrigan Wonders will make space in our feed for someone else’s podcast.  In this case, Kelly is sharing a conversation between two former guests — Dan Harris and Bryan Stevenson — because we can never think about the hard work of justice enough.  Enjoy.
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Kelly Shares A Conversation with Dan Harris and Bryan Stevenson

Reflecting on the persistence and challenge of change as a way of life and a few deep dives into very specific changes with writer, activist and community leader <a href="https://jenhatmaker.com/" title="Jen Hatmaker site" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jen Hatmaker.</a>

If you enjoyed listening to my conversation this week with Jen Hatmaker and you haven’t already listened to the episode we did together in May of 2021, please check it out - it’s been one of the most listened to pods we’ve ever done and I think you’ll really enjoy it. It’s <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jen-hatmaker-on-bouncing-back-and-finding-meaning/id1532951390?i=1000521269722" title="Jen Hatmaker on Bouncing Back and Finding Meaning" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Episode #35</a> of Kelly Corrigan Wonders. You may also enjoy the series we did in 2021 called <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-change-happens-takeaways-from-22-conversations/id1532951390?i=1000510295529" title="How Change Happens: Takeaways From 22 Conversations " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">How Change Happens</a>. It’s a special 10 part series l of frank conversations about suffering, compassion, willpower and tough love. (Replay of Ep 78 which originally aired on March 8, 2022)

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Reflecting on the persistence and challenge of change as a way of life and a few deep dives into very specific changes with writer, activist and community leader Jen Hatmaker.
If you enjoyed listening to my conversation this week with Jen Hatmaker and you haven’t already listened to the episode we did together in May of 2021, please check it out - it’s been one of the most listened to pods we’ve ever done and I think you’ll really enjoy it. It’s Episode #35 of Kelly Corrigan Wonders.  You may also enjoy the series we did in 2021 called How Change Happens. It’s a special 10 part series l of frank conversations about suffering, compassion, willpower and tough love. (Replay of Ep 78 which originally aired on March 8, 2022)
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Riding Change

Going Deep with Jen Hatmaker on How to Do Change Well 

Today’s Thanks For Being Here features an excerpt from the book <a href="https://normalbroken.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Normal Broken: The Grief Companion for When It's Time to Heal but You're Not Sure You Want To.</a> Since 2018, Kelly Cervantes has candidly chronicled her evolution through grief, parenting her medically complex daughter, Adelaide, who passed away from epilepsy just days before her 4th birthday. Weeks later, the Cervantes family was uprooted when Kelly’s husband Miguel was cast as Hamilton on Broadway, moving them from their closest community and support system in Chicago to what would soon be the isolated and lonely epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic in the U.S. Normal Broken was born out of those writings—her blog, <a href="https://www.kellycervantes.com/blog" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Inchstones</a>.

Today’s Thanks For Being Here features an excerpt from the book Normal Broken: The Grief Companion for When It's Time to Heal but You're Not Sure You Want To. Since 2018, Kelly Cervantes has candidly chronicled her evolution through grief, parenting her medically complex daughter, Adelaide, who passed away from epilepsy just days before her 4th birthday. Weeks later, the Cervantes family was uprooted when Kelly’s husband Miguel was cast as Hamilton on Broadway, moving them from their closest community and support system in Chicago to what would soon be the isolated and lonely epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic in the U.S.  Normal Broken was born out of those writings—her blog, Inchstones.

Healing doesn't have to mean forgetting 

Thanks For Being Here   A Grief Companion

It can be really hard to interpret the signals our bodies send us. Does stress mean we should run? Does discomfort mean something is going wrong? Today’s mini pod unpacks one of the top social science findings from the Greater Good Science Center. (Previously aired)

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It can be really hard to interpret the signals our bodies send us.  Does stress mean we should run?  Does discomfort mean something is going wrong?  Today’s mini pod unpacks one of the top social science findings from the Greater Good Science Center. (Previously aired)
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