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The Secrets We Keep

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The Secrets We Keep is a five-part podcast from NEPM about the stories we don’t tell, what they say about our world, and what they do to our minds. NEPM reporter Karen Brown follows a number of western Massachusetts characters to explore secrets people keep on sexual orientation, abortion history, genetic origins, family scandals, and money.

What's your secret, and why do you keep it? Reach out at 413-258-8633 or secrets@nepm.org.

If you'd like a written transcript of any of the episodes for accessibility, please email us at secrets@nepm.org and we’ll send you one. For more information, visit nepm.org/secrets.

The Secrets We Keep is a five-part podcast from NEPM about the stories we don’t tell, what they say about our world, and what they do to our minds. NEPM reporter Karen Brown follows a number of western Massachusetts characters to explore secrets people keep on sexual orientation, abortion history, genetic origins, family scandals, and money.

What's your secret, and why do you keep it? Reach out at 413-258-8633 or secrets@nepm.org.

If you'd like a written transcript of any of the episodes for accessibility, please email us at secrets@nepm.org and we’ll send you one. For more information, visit nepm.org/secrets.

2hr 20min
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What happens when a biological discovery reveals that the big secret in your life is actually YOU?
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Why do we keep how much money we earn a secret?
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How have the changing political winds around abortion led women to keep their abortions secret, and — for the same reason —speak out about them?
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Explore how people in the LGBTQ community have been forced to keep secrets about their sexual orientation or gender identity, even from themselves.
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Reporter Karen Brown shares a personal family secret, and introduces the idea of distinguishing between privacy and secrecy which is explored throughout the series.
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The stories we don’t tell, what they say about our world, and what they do to our minds — a new podcast from NEPM. Listen to the trailer now.

Our Secrets, Ourselves

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May 8, 202429min 36sec

The explosion in mail-in genetic testing has busted so many secrets out of the proverbial closet, as people discover that the biggest secret in their life is their own origin story. This episode looks at the personal and societal costs of these biological secrets over generations — and the fallout, after those secrets are unraveled. It also considers why so many families of the past kept fertility treatment a secret.

We meet:

Lisa, an Amherst, Massachusetts, grant writer, who discovers through 23 & Me that her parents used a sperm donor to conceive her 50-some years ago. She decides that, despite her parents’ pledge to never discuss it, she wants to talk about it all the time.

Dee Gish, one of Lisa’s newly discovered half sisters, who revels in the large extended family she now gets to claim.

Dani Shapiro, a well-known memoir writer who has become a social commentator on genetic revelations, after learning that her beloved father was not biologically related to her. It’s one in a long list of secrets that destabilized her life, which now inform the insights she brings to her own podcast on family secrets.

Michael Slepian, the social scientist from Columbia University whom we met back in the first episode. As one of the country’s premier researchers on secret-keeping, he found out that his own genetic origins were not what he thought. But he says it’s not the secret, so much as the secret keeping, that shook him the most.

Karen’s own father Rex (again), who, in addition to having a secret daughter, never knew his own biological dad. But he told Karen (in the year before he died) he was at peace with that.

The Secrets We Keep is written/produced/hosted by Karen Brown, edited by Sam Hudzik, with music by Katie Semro. Find out more at nepm.org/secrets.