Hosted by Dan DeFrancesco, In Between examines experiences that don’t have a logical explanation in our current understanding of reality. Through a series of conversations we search to find the answers for these paranormal encounters that only take place in the “in between”. Just bring an open mind!

Timothy Aines has a BA from Northwestern University and an M.S. from the University of Southern California in Systems Management. Tim is a lifelong student of the ET contact phenomenon and served 23 years as a senior intelligence officer in both the Marine Corps and United States Coast Guard where he interviewed hundreds of people on cases of national interest, including the UAP phenomenon. Tim has been a MUFON member and a very successful field investigator for almost a decade, working with Experiencers on a wide variety of encounters, sightings, and unexplained paranormal activity. Tim is also a logistician, having served as Chief of Staff of the Crisis Action Team at the U.S. Transportation Command where he was responsible for airlift and sealift operations in support of worldwide military operations for the two years immediately after 9/11. Tim lives in Illinois with his wife and has four grown children. His hobbies are books, film, logistics problems, and anything having to do with geographical or historical mysteries.

Timothy Aines has a BA from Northwestern University and an M.S. from the University of Southern California in Systems Management. Tim is a lifelong student of the ET contact phenomenon and served 23 years as a senior intelligence officer in both the Marine Corps and United States Coast Guard where he interviewed hundreds of people on cases of national interest, including the UAP phenomenon. Tim has been a MUFON member and a very successful field investigator for almost a decade, working with Experiencers on a wide variety of encounters, sightings, and unexplained paranormal activity. Tim is also a logistician, having served as Chief of Staff of the Crisis Action Team at the U.S. Transportation Command where he was responsible for airlift and sealift operations in support of worldwide military operations for the two years immediately after 9/11. Tim lives in Illinois with his wife and has four grown children. His hobbies are books, film, logistics problems, and anything having to do with geographical or historical mysteries.

04/21/2026 with Timothy Aines

Timothy Aines

UFO Researcher George Medich, Director MUFON ERT, joins the program to explain unexplained phenomena.

UFO Researcher George Medich, Director MUFON ERT, joins the program to explain unexplained phenomena.

George Medich

This week on In Between, Dan interviews Tom P. Newman, a professional medium and owner of Teachings of the Angels in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Through thoughtful conversation, Tom shares insights into his work, spiritual communication, and the deeper connections that exist beyond the physical world.

This week on In Between, Dan interviews Tom P. Newman, a professional medium and owner of Teachings of the Angels in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Through thoughtful conversation, Tom shares insights into his work, spiritual communication, and the deeper connections that exist beyond the physical world.

03/17/2026 with Tom Newman

Tom Newman

In this compelling episode of In Between, we welcome Yvonne R. Smith, C.Ht., Certified Hypnotherapist and renowned UFO Abduction Researcher, author, and lecturer. With decades of experience working with individuals who report extraordinary encounters, Yvonne shares her professional insights into regression hypnotherapy, consciousness, and the complex nature of reported abduction phenomena. The conversation explores the intersection of psychology, memory, and the unexplained, offering thoughtful perspectives on experiences that challenge conventional understanding. Join us for an engaging and thought-provoking discussion that examines what may lie “in between” the known and the unknown.

In this compelling episode of In Between, we welcome Yvonne R. Smith, C.Ht., Certified Hypnotherapist and renowned UFO Abduction Researcher, author, and lecturer. With decades of experience working with individuals who report extraordinary encounters, Yvonne shares her professional insights into regression hypnotherapy, consciousness, and the complex nature of reported abduction phenomena. The conversation explores the intersection of psychology, memory, and the unexplained, offering thoughtful perspectives on experiences that challenge conventional understanding. Join us for an engaging and thought-provoking discussion that examines what may lie “in between” the known and the unknown.

03/03/2025 with Yvonne R. Smith, C.Ht.

Yvonne R. Smith, C.Ht.

Glenn Aparicio Parry is a thoughtful and articulate voice with a strong interest in culture, ideas, and meaningful conversation. With a measured and insightful approach, Glenn brings clarity and depth to discussions, offering perspectives shaped by curiosity, reflection, and a commitment to understanding the spaces in between established viewpoints. His contributions emphasize nuance, open dialogue, and careful consideration of complex topics. Visit his webiste at <a href="https://glennaparicioparry.com">glennaparicioparry.com</a>

Glenn Aparicio Parry is a thoughtful and articulate voice with a strong interest in culture, ideas, and meaningful conversation. With a measured and insightful approach, Glenn brings clarity and depth to discussions, offering perspectives shaped by curiosity, reflection, and a commitment to understanding the spaces in between established viewpoints. His contributions emphasize nuance, open dialogue, and careful consideration of complex topics. 
Visit his webiste at glennaparicioparry.com

02/03/2026 with Glenn Aparicio Parry

Glenn Aparicio Parry

Maria Tellier was appointed as the New Mexico Director for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) in July 2024, following seven years as the assistant state director. She organizes a monthly event in Alamogordo called “Coffee Cups &amp; Flying Saucers,” which aims to raise public awareness about the ongoing presence of unidentified objects and abduction experiences. In her role as director, Maria is responsible for training new field investigators, assigning cases, managing the chapter’s YouTube and Facebook pages, and speaking to various groups.To see Maria's You Tube presentation on The Holloman AFB UFO Landing use the link below:<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><a href="https://youtu.be/KC-T5-uIkQc?si=e45omg-bFHY1B_Y0">https://youtu.be/KC-T5-uIkQc?si=e45omg-bFHY1B_Y0</a></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>

Maria Tellier was appointed as the New Mexico Director for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) in July 2024, following seven years as the assistant state director. She organizes a monthly event in Alamogordo called “Coffee Cups & Flying Saucers,” which aims to raise public awareness about the ongoing presence of unidentified objects and abduction experiences. In her role as director, Maria is responsible for training new field investigators, assigning cases, managing the chapter’s YouTube and Facebook pages, and speaking to various groups.
To see Maria's You Tube presentation on The Holloman AFB UFO Landing use the link below:

https://youtu.be/KC-T5-uIkQc?si=e45omg-bFHY1B_Y0

01/20/2026 Maria Tellier 2

Maria Tellier 2

Liz received her Masters Degree in Social Work from New Mexico State University and has held a wide range of positions over her career in that discipline in New Mexico. Her work has evolved over her career into a more wholistic  approach that she describes as Quantium Healing. We discuss these multiple modalities used in her work including QHHT which explores how recalling past lives may help in both emotional and physical healing.

Liz received her Masters Degree in Social Work from New Mexico State University and has held a wide range of positions over her career in that discipline in New Mexico. Her work has evolved over her career into a more wholistic  approach that she describes as Quantium Healing. We discuss these multiple modalities used in her work including QHHT which explores how recalling past lives may help in both emotional and physical healing.

12/16/2025 with Liz Tudor

Liz Tudor

Maria Tellier was appointed as the New Mexico Director for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) in July 2024, following seven years as the assistant state director. She organizes a monthly event in Alamogordo called “Coffee Cups &amp; Flying Saucers,” which aims to raise public awareness about the ongoing presence of unidentified objects and abduction experiences. In her role as director, Maria is responsible for training new field investigators, assigning cases, managing the chapter’s YouTube and Facebook pages, and speaking to various groups.

Maria Tellier was appointed as the New Mexico Director for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) in July 2024, following seven years as the assistant state director. She organizes a monthly event in Alamogordo called “Coffee Cups & Flying Saucers,” which aims to raise public awareness about the ongoing presence of unidentified objects and abduction experiences. In her role as director, Maria is responsible for training new field investigators, assigning cases, managing the chapter’s YouTube and Facebook pages, and speaking to various groups.

11/18/2025 with Maria Tellier , New Mexico Director, Mutual UFO Network

Maria Tellier

Kitty has been a nurse, herbalist and healer. She is a Native American of Pawnee heritage and has lived in New Mexico since 1987. She has also had many close encounters with UFO’s over her lifetime and joins me today to discuss these experiences of high strangeness.

Kitty has been a nurse, herbalist and healer. She is a Native American of Pawnee heritage and has lived in New Mexico since 1987. She has also had many close encounters with UFO’s over her lifetime and joins me today to discuss these experiences of high strangeness.

Kitty Aspen All

On this episode of In Between, Dan interviews Mark O’Connell, an author, screenwriter, feature television commentator, and university lecturer with a passion for exploring the intersection of pop culture, storytelling, and identity. His work spans genres and formats, from insightful literary non-fiction to sharp screenwriting and compelling media commentary. A recognized voice on British and international television, O’Connell frequently discusses film, television, and cultural trends. He is also a dedicated academic, lecturing at the university level on writing, media, and popular culture. His acclaimed books and screen work reflect a unique blend of wit, depth, and cultural insight.

On this episode of In Between, Dan interviews Mark O’Connell, an author, screenwriter, feature television commentator, and university lecturer with a passion for exploring the intersection of pop culture, storytelling, and identity. His work spans genres and formats, from insightful literary non-fiction to sharp screenwriting and compelling media commentary. A recognized voice on British and international television, O’Connell frequently discusses film, television, and cultural trends. He is also a dedicated academic, lecturing at the university level on writing, media, and popular culture. His acclaimed books and screen work reflect a unique blend of wit, depth, and cultural insight.

Mark O’Connell

This week on In Between, Dan interviews Senior Fellow, Potomac Institute for Policy Studies, Neurosystems Engineer, Strategic Science Leader, Dr. Gerold Yonas.Dr. Gerold Yonas is a distinguished physicist, engineer, and thought leader whose career bridges high‑stakes defense research, cutting-edge science, and neuroengineering. As a Senior Fellow at the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies, he continues to influence policy and technology by applying his deep experience in science, defense, and systems thinking.

This week on In Between, Dan interviews Senior Fellow, Potomac Institute for Policy Studies, Neurosystems Engineer, Strategic Science Leader, Dr. Gerold Yonas.
Dr. Gerold Yonas is a distinguished physicist, engineer, and thought leader whose career bridges high‑stakes defense research, cutting-edge science, and neuroengineering. As a Senior Fellow at the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies, he continues to influence policy and technology by applying his deep experience in science, defense, and systems thinking.

Dr. Gerry Yonas

Dr. Michael P. Masters is a professor of biological anthropology at Montana Technological University in Butte, Montana. He received a Ph.D. in Anthropology from The Ohio State University in 2009, where he specialized in hominin evolutionary anatomy, archaeology, and biomedicine. Recent research examines the premise that UFOs and ‘Aliens’ could be our future-human descendants, returning to visit and study their own evolutionary past. In 2019, he published Identified Flying Objects: A Multidisciplinary Scientific Approach to the UFO Phenomenon.

Dr. Michael P. Masters is a professor of biological anthropology at Montana Technological University in Butte, Montana. He received a Ph.D. in Anthropology from The Ohio State University in 2009, where he specialized in hominin evolutionary anatomy, archaeology, and biomedicine. Recent research examines the premise that UFOs and ‘Aliens’ could be our future-human descendants, returning to visit and study their own evolutionary past. In 2019, he published Identified Flying Objects: A Multidisciplinary Scientific Approach to the UFO Phenomenon.

Dr. Michael Masters

Lori Williams, CHt, LMT, is the founder and lead instructor at Intuitive Specialists, bringing over 20 years of experience in Controlled Remote Viewing (CRV) and a depth of knowledge in the field.

Lori Williams, CHt, LMT, is the founder and lead instructor at Intuitive Specialists, bringing over 20 years of experience in Controlled Remote Viewing (CRV) and a depth of knowledge in the field.

Lori Williams

David Marler - Executive Director, National UFO Historical Records Center

David Marler - Executive Director, National UFO Historical Records Center

David Marler

Author of Stories from The Messengers: Accounts of Owls, UFOs and a Deeper Reality

Author of Stories from The Messengers: Accounts of Owls, UFOs and a Deeper Reality

Mike Clelland

Author, longtime UFO blogger and researcher Charles Lear joins the show to discuss his deep dive into UFO history. Lear shares how he first became fascinated by UFOs, what drives his meticulous research, and why he believes healthy skepticism keeps the field honest and grounded.

Author, longtime UFO blogger and researcher Charles Lear joins the show to discuss his deep dive into UFO history. Lear shares how he first became fascinated by UFOs, what drives his meticulous research, and why he believes healthy skepticism keeps the field honest and grounded.

Charles Lear

Philip &amp; Kerry: Experienced International mediums &amp; tutors offer expert mediumship development through training, mentorship &amp; workshops worldwide and online.<a href="https://www.philipdykesandkerrymcleod.com/">https://www.philipdykesandkerrymcleod.com/</a>

Philip & Kerry: Experienced International mediums & tutors offer expert mediumship development through training, mentorship & workshops worldwide and online.
https://www.philipdykesandkerrymcleod.com/